still going on.
Are you still? Are you in favor of them? Releasing the report
despite the Dan Snyder? Is the owner or not?
Yes,
why
Because I know everything,
he believes that they should release the report. And then I,
then we asked why he says, because we know because I know
everything in the report,
well, that would be impossible succeed, only person I know of
that knows anything about the investigation is Mary Jo, White
her counterparts. So,
I don't know any of those things. Mary Jo, White is
professional.
She's incredibly thorough, she's not giving access to anybody,
so I'm comfortable on that point.
Oh spaghetti. Yeah. How
awkward? That was awesome. Hashtag awkward.
So and and look, who knows? Who knows what the truth really is.
But let me reiterate a point that I make from time to time,
when the NFL goes out and hires an independent investigator, it
is not Independence in the classic sense, it is not
somebody who
is going to do their own thing on their own time
and hold everything secret and not say anything
and give the outcome whenever he or she feels like it.
And it's going to be whatever it is,
regardless of the destruction, that it may cause for
the organization. Somehow it worked. She's not independent,
she's outside. She's still working for the NFL. She's had
multiple assignments in recent years with the NFL. They are
exactly the kind of client that. If you're a lawyer, you
want to represent, they
have the money to pay
Big Bill's. They have big problems.
And there's an art
to properly managing the client relationship. So you keep
getting the work. That's how it works in the legal business. A
Who has nothing to do, isn't a lawyer,
you have to have work to do
and the best lawyers in the smartest lawyers, know how to
get the best and the most lucrative work. So so
is it impossible
to think that she's provided some updates to Jeff Pash? The
General Counsel of the NFL isn't impossible. Absolutely
think,
right? Yeah. I mean, yes. Yes. This isn't some.
This isn't some some scientific experiment that Is happening in
a sarcophagus somewhere and there's no way that anyone
knows what's going on. Of course, there's going to be
conversation. This
thing's been lingering for 14 months in rise at lingering for
14 months, is it because this is such a tough nut to crack or
they're using it as the ultimate carrot and stick for
Daniel Snyder. And this is what dawned on me yesterday, Chris
because Roger
Goodell said they're still going to release the report no
matter what. Now when Dan Snyder announced back in
November an intention to sell the team, I heard from
somebody in the league, not League office, but in
the league structure. Say
we're never going to see the Mary Jo White investigation.
Are we just going to brush it under the rug? Now I have
a different take because they've committed
to making it public,
I believe and I know this is very cynical but I worked in
that world. I know how this goes. I've seen it happen.
There's a lot of discretion, it can get exercised. There's
a lot of interpretations that can be applied to a given set of
facts. You can believe one person. You can believe
the other person, you can believe everyone. You can believe no
one. You have a lot
of discretion. As the one who's doing the investigation as to
how you get to the other side. So
if Dan, Snyder leaves, if he sells, if he's gone
and we got a report, we're going to make public. What do
you think is going to do? You think is going to crap all over
Dan Snyder or it's going to exonerate him? He's out of our
Lives. Now why do we want to put out a report saying you did
all these bad things when we don't have to deal with this
guy anymore. So yeah, the reports going to have one tone
and and collection of content if he's gone. And if he digs
his heels in
and if he says, I'm not going. If he does the whole Leo
DiCaprio thing and grabs the microphone and says I'm not F
and leaving, then that report may go a different way. That's
that's where this is right now. I believe, I don't know it, but
I believe
it based on my own experience dealing with the NFL
dealing, with the legal profession.
So, so, yeah, we will release the report because if he goes,
It goes one way.
If he stays it, goes another one that makes sense. Mike,
I can get behind how Explain that.
It makes a lot of sense. I you know what?
What would the if he goes? What would the NFL? You know, they'd
be hurting themselves if they went scorched Earth on Daniel
Snyder. Anyway. Yes, right. It's gonna make them look bad
turns around and Sue's. Right? Right there. Yeah. He turns
around and Sue's them and
makes them look incompetent in the fact that they couldn't
control one of the 32 owners and you know the shield is is
buttoned up as you think. But yeah, I get it kind of dangling
it, you know, over as a little bit of a
you know, a threat a chip the that they They have that.
They're waiting to cash in
and that's where it was kind of funny, I mean.
Yeah, first off, just Jerry, I would think Jerry knows a lot
about this. Like you said, it's been going on for a long time.
What do you like
again? These guys are there in the know,
I would think Jerry knows a little, I would think mr. Kraft
knows a little. I think John, Mara knows a little. I think
all the major Power Players that we looking in
the hierarchy of ownership there,
have a have a feel of what's going on in this whole thing.
It just looked like, Roger Goodell put on his lawyer hat
was like wait we're not supposed to sound like that yet
and there could be some legal consequences to that. So that's
impossible.
That's how it looked that's why it was awkward.
But yeah, I makes a lot of sense of what you're saying,
Mike, I can get that.
It's one of the reasons he makes however, many million
a year. We used to know how many million it was. Because when
the NFL was a tax-exempt Trade Organization there, their
paperwork had to be filed and we saw how much he made, who
knows what it is now, but he's on the verge of getting a new
contract and this is one of the things he does best. He gets in
those settings at least four times a year,
and on behalf of the people behind the curtain,
he keeps it all on an even Keel and doesn't say anything that
creates a major problem, but the reality is, Mary Jo White
is giving them what they want when they want it. That's how
you continue to get those assignments. This isn't some
scientific exercise. This isn't some Pursuit for justice and
Truth. This is the NFL trying to solve a problem and Jerry
Jones of all the owners out there who would not want
a precedent to be created, that could be used against them in
the future, which is
exactly why they've been protecting Dan Snyder. They
haven't been protecting him because they like him because
they don't as far as I've gleaned over the years they are
Learn some of them, some more than others that we're creating
a path for a disgruntled employee or anyone who has
anything negative about us, that they know
to say just enough to spark an investigation and then
the investigator shows up and starts digging around and God
knows what the investigator finds. I mean look at all
the stuff that has come out of
a problem that started with mistreatment
of female employees
in the Commander's organization over an extended period of
time, which is bad enough in and of itself but the Mere fact
of investigating, it has caused all sorts of other things, to
come to fruition Financial irregularities
stuff to get you good. People not just sued but thrown in jail.
So you don't want that possibility. You don't want
that pathway for someone who doesn't like you who has an ax
to grind against you, whether or not their grievances
real or imagined
you don't want them to have a way
to take your life and turn it upside down. The way that
Snyder's life has been turned upside down and when you just
pay attention to some of the news, it's been out there about
the Cowboys. Recently me, Jerry Jones has got sued this week,
for defamation by a woman who sued him last year to establish
that, he's her father.
And then there's
another lawsuit that was revived recently
brought by a woman who claims that
he kissed her against, her will
at AT & T Stadium during a football game in 2018. So
there's stuff out there that could stick to Jerry Jones at
some point. And if this Dan Schneider
situation becomes, As the Dan Snyder rule. He's the first one
that has to worry about his house caving. In the guy who's
never going to sell the Cowboys could be in the same situation
that Dan Snyder is
if the Snyder standard would ever get applied to him. And if
Mary Jo White would ever be investigating everything and
anything he's ever done. Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna fight
back on anything you said there. I think that's a very
real thing
and I'll just setting precedent or
opening up a can of worms for the future on. All of us has
got to be on the radar for these owners, right?
But they got to be happy. Nonetheless that
I mean it seems like
they're getting close to getting out of this, right. As
far as, you know, Jerry Jones may be having worried about
precedent or some other owner, whatever it may be.
I mean it from by all due accounts, right? I mean, it
seems like Washington's getting sold. The commanders are going
to be sold. It seems like Daniel Snyder's good with that.
And that's the road we're going down here right now. So
you know the owners
you know the NFL that I'm sure they're happy.
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