What if I feed you a little piece?
You haven’t feed me a little piece.
I’m going to be so happy with that.
Yummy!
[Chilled ambient music]
Yo, this is Ghetto Gastro.
We’re live in the building in the Rick store.
You already know the vibes, man. We’re running it up.
We’re with the goddess Michèle Lamy.
Gonna let you see how we do it.
Long-time collaborator, so we just … we just build it.
Celebrating
—We’re just a family. It’s just— —Yeah, it’s a good thing.
We opening up our family conversations to the world,
to the audience of
So this is the thing that is with you.
I think it's amazing that you have this book and you are touring.
But to me, I said,
“OK, they don’t have a place where I can find them, everybody,
so let’s tour together.”
How can we tour?
So it’s really like this.
So it’s intense joy
and intense frustration sometimes.
[Everyone laughing]
[Ambient music]
So let’s start from the beginning.
So … in 2015, we were on our way to Barbados
for Barbados, was it the—
Food and Rum [Festival]. Yeah, Food and Rum.
And we get a call, a Facetime, from our friend Samira …
—Yeah? —with you on it.
Yes, we were in our kitchen in Paris,
and you answered the phone.
Yes, yes, I answered the phone.
We were on our way to the airport, and it’s like,
“Can we make some magic together in Paris?”
“Especially because of the Bataclan attacks.”
Yeah, it was, you know,
sometimes I’ve been doing some Thanksgiving.
But that time …
and it was just after the Bataclan,
and then I wanted to do a Thanksgiving
with all the neighbors that sometimes we don’t talk to.
With all that they do, with everybody working together.
Remember, you had all those ovens on the terrace?
—We had all the ovens outside. —The turkey. The big turkey.
We had, like, all the pies out back. I remember that was—
We had a big-ass 20-gallon gastro full of mac and steeze, man,
mixing it up, making it pop, man.
And the food was so good.
And it was, like, our start.
We couldn’t believe.
We never thought we could have topped this.
Oh man, it gets better.
We can always top this incredible thing,
but there was all that joy
and to be together with people
who had already been suffering especially …
at that time.
And then what was the next one? So we did Thanksgiving.
I feel like after that, we went to … was it LACMA?
–MOCA. MOCA. —It was MOCA.
We did MOCA. We turned it out.
But I think for me, I think for all of us,
what we did after that
and when we went out to Venice for the Biennale.
And we had some kind of boxing.
Yeah, you had the boxing ring.
Yeah, we had a boxing ring.
Do you remember that guy that was naked on the table
with the big stomach like that, and we had to take him out?
It was a little too much.
My favorite part was when we went to some other party,
and you were walking around, Michèle,
asking everybody how do they feel.
“How do you feel?”
And somebody said some shit, like, “I feel fine.”
And you said, “I don’t give a fuck.”
[Laughing]
[Relaxed hip-hop]
Oh my God. Oh my God.
We are going to have such a good afternoon.
Mm-hmm, such a lovely afternoon.
Enjoy, everyone.
Merci
—Merci. —Merci.
[Clinking]
Enjoy.
To friendship, to knowledge, to building.
We’ve been friends for a long time.
Been causing a lot of trouble.
Yeah, but you— Those are new.
This is new, yeah.
Not like yours.
Did you see my ruby?
—Yeah. —Hmmm.
Yours are unparallel to mine.
Like, there’s nothing that are touching those right there.
What exactly are the stones that you have in there?
It’s got some meteorite in there.
Yeah, it’s a meteorite in there, right?
Yeah, it’s just—
No, I have a whole crystal.
Whole crystal.
Oh shit, the whole crystal.
Crystal in the back.
So what initially …
drew you to us,
like, made you curious about the Ghetto Gastro project
and want to explore friendship and making things together?
Because you’re a visionary.
You’ve always, you know—
I don’t know, it’s seduction.
Seduction?
Now, I accept it
because I was so much thinking I was going to change my life.
You are going to be in the Bronx, and I’m going to be Bronxing around.
Then it never stick.
So I accepted them some kind of nomad,
like why you are and you try to do things.
Yeah, I think that’s one of the most fun things
about how we move together
is that it’s any city that we can get litty.
It doesn’t matter time or place.
It could be France, it could be L.A.,
it could be Miami, it could be Venice.
What we did different was we did it with museums.
So we went on tour to the museums.
And often, we had the relationship with the bookstore,
or the museum or art institution
had a local Black-owned bookstore that they like to work with,
so we were able to, like, bring them together,
which was a lot of fun.
Do you want some of this? We can share.
OK.
I’ll take some of yours.
We got to mix it because the ice is melting,
and there’s a lot of water.
Yeah, I know. That’s the problem with having all that fucking ice.
Michèle’s good at sharing.
Last year when we came to Venice
and we popped up on her at the apartment,
she gave us her room.
Well, actually, she gave me her room,
and I gave it to you.
Well, she still shared it with us.
With us.
Jon’s an only child, so it always goes back to him.
It was just a fact.
Yeah, and you had a big room, and [inaudible].
You having a bed that is too small for you,
but the room is too—
Sacrifice for the homies.
Yeah.
That bed is orgy-sized.
That’s the size of the bed.
That’s an orgy-sized bed.
What is that?
I think it’s the seaweed butter.
That’s what it tastes like, at least.
I don’t really like mussels that much.
Nah?
—I love mussels. —I love mussels, man.
Yeah, the mussel.
Got to put the mussel in the hustle, man.
So, what’s next? From here, we go to the crib do some waffles?
Yeah.
[Chilled ambient music]
What do you think I bring to the team?
What do you think I do?
You are just around.
Oh, just around?
That’s accurate, yeah.
So tell me, Michèle, how do you feel about friendship?
And I think for us, it’s so interesting
because you can’t put us in a box, right, like you.
They can’t put you in a fashion box.
It’s fashion, it’s art, it’s food.
How did you know it was possible to explore all of these stories?
I don’t know. Perhaps we need big sky charts for all of us.
That will tell us what we should do, too.
And then they would put us in one big box all together.
And I say, boom.
—Boom. —Boom!
Voilà.
I don’t think we belong in boxes. It’s just—
Even just as people, you know,
I think that we just have these creative bones,
and people should be able to explore their different creative …
their different creative urges, right?
You got to earn it. You got to just do it.
It takes a lot of courage.
Mm-hmm.
We don’t ask for permission. We just get it popping, man.
You got to believe in yourself.
Yeah.
I like this expression.
[Chilled ambient music]
This is looking good!
That’s it right there.
That’s good.
Michèle, now you see what I do?
Now you see what I do?
Have another waffle.
Yeah, I’m so impressed.
[Laughing]
You are a finisher.
—He’s a finisher! —A finisher!
I’m the finisher, that’s me!
—Yeah? —Yeah.
Look, I’m just going to put it in front of you.
—You put it in front of me. —There you go.
This is just for Instagram.
Like the turkey.
As you said.
Look at you guys.
Waffles are supposed to be from Belgium.
Mm-hmm.
And not … when the border is, like—
Not the Bronx?
—Now it’s the Bronx. —Now it’s the Bronx.
Bronx waffle.
Oui, oui
Oui, oui.
—Oui, oui, merci. —Oui, oui, chéri.
[Speaking in French]
That was the first phrase that I learned in France.
[Speaking in French]
—What that mean? —Come sit on my lap, baby.
No, bring that ass here, baby.
What is that word you invented?
[Laughing]
[Speaking in French]
That shit don’t mean nothing, right?
[Laughing, talking over each other]
That’s fucked up.
She said, “What is that word you invented?”
[Speaking in French]
[Laughing]
I would like to know … when did somebody say that to you?
So it means nothing?
I remember the Uber driver told us that shit.
Yeah!
So sit down is
—Assieds-toi. Assieds-toi.
[Speaking in French]
Mm-hmm.
What the fuck is that?
Singing: I just want to ra-ah-ah-ah-sha!
Look at that, how dark this water is.
[Sigh]
This was fun.
Yeah, especially— OK, I’m going to go.
Goodbye.
Michèle, are we finished? Are we done?
Well, goodbye.
À demain
Bye, Michèle.