THINK COULD BE EASILY DISMISS
THE.
WE HAVE FORMER OHIO SECRETARY OF
STATE KEN BLACKWELL AND
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST HOWARD
FRANKLIN.
KEN TO YOU, AND THE POSSIBILITY
OF THIS VOTE DOESN'T GO THE
JUDGE'S WAY, THEN WHAT?
>> NEIL IF IN FACT IT WENT THAT
WAY, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THE
INTENSITY OF THE REPUBLICAN
BASE, AND WHAT WE USED TO CALL
REAGAN, CONSERVATIVE, PRO-LIFE,
PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT.
ALL OF SUDDEN THAT INTENSITY
GOES UP.
NOT ONLY MATCHES THE INTENSITY
ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE ALREADY
SKY-HIGH HIT ITS CEILING I DON'T
THINK WHAT YOU SEE IS THIS, ONE,
THE REPUBLICANS INCREASED THEIR
MAJORITY BY AT LEAST TWO SEATS
IN THE SENATE.
AND WHILE WE LOSE VOTES IN THE
SEATS IN THE HOUSE, I DON'T
THINK IT WILL BE MORE THAN 17,
WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WILL
HAVE A MORE COHESIVE MAJORITY IN
THE HOUSE.
THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE
REPUBLICAN AND CONSERVATIVE
TURNOUT UP, REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER HE MAKES IT FOR NOT, BUT
I THINK HE IS GOING TO MAKE IT.
NEIL: I SUSPECT THIS WILL DRIVE
OUT PASSIONATE VOTERS IN BOTH
PARTIES T COULD MEAN WE COULD
HAVE ONE OF THE STRONGER
PARTICIPATING MIDTERM ELECTION
CONTESTS IN QUITE SOME TIME.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I WOULD DISAGREE WITH
SOMETHING THAT KEN MENTIONED.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THE
ZENITH OR CEILING FOR DEMOCRATIC
INVOLVEMENT OR ENTHUSIASM.
I THINK IF AND WHEN JUDGE
KAVANAUGH BECOMES JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH, WE'LL HAVE EVEN MORE
WHIPSAWING OF LEADERSHIP INSIDE
OF THE PARTY.
ALL OUTSIDE GROUPS I THINK ONE
DISTINCTION I MAKE BETWEEN
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATIC
ENTHUSIASM IN THIS MIDTERM
ELECTION IS THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE
BEEN ENTHUSED AND EXCITED ABOUT
VOTING AND ABOUT CALLING UP THE
PRESIDENT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.
THEY HAVE BEEN WINNING SPECIAL
ELECTIONS UP AND DOWN THE
BALLOT.
CONTESTING SPECIAL ELECTIONS WE
HAVE REALLY NO BUSINESS EVEN
CONTESTING.
I THINK THAT SUSTAINED
ENTHUSIASM AND MOMENTUM WILL BE
MUCH MORE THAN A MATCH FOR
WHATEVER REPUBLICANS ARE ABLE TO
MUSTER ESPECIALLY IF THEY GET
WHAT THEY WANT AND CAN GO HOME
AND TAKE THEIR BALL WITH THEM
AFTER THIS VOTE.
NEIL: KEN, YOU COULD FLIP IT
AROUND AND SAY IF THE JUDGE
DOESN'T MAKE IT, IT WILL REALLY
GALVANIZE REPUBLICAN VOTERS WHO
FELT HE WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY AND
EXPRESSED THEIR WRATH AT THE
POLLS AND CAME OUT IN RECORD
NUMBERS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> YEAH.
THIS HAS BEEN AN ASSAULT ON
CIVILITY.
THE CHASING DOWN OF SENATORS, OF
THE EXTREME DISHAVE SHUN.
ONE OF THE THINGS, WE WILL SEE
IN THIS ELECTION IN NOVEMBER IS
THAT WE WILL SEE THIS BEING
REDUCED TO WHAT SORT OF AMERICA
DO YOU WANT?
ONE THAT RESPECTS THE RULE OF
LAW, ONE THAT IS MOVING TOWARDS
CIVILITY OR DO YOU WANT THIS
SORT OF SHENANIGANS THAT HAVE
BEEN PULLED BY THE LEFT AND THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
I, LET ME JUST SAY, NEIL, I
THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT
WE ESTABLISH THIS, THIS ASSAULT
ON JUDGE KAVANAUGH'S DAUGHTERS,
HIS WIFE, HIS MOTHER, YOU KNOW,
WOMEN ARE NOT A MONOLITHIC
GROUP.
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT IS ALL
SAID AND DONE, THIS WHOLE SCENE
IS GOING TO BE THE DEATH KNELL
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS WE
KNOW IT.
NEIL: GUYS, I --
>> I HAVE A TO LAUGH A LITTLE
BIT HERE.
NEIL: HOWARD I WILL GO TO YOU ON
THAT.
I'M GETTING UPDATE FROM CNN
SENATOR MURKOWSKI WAS EXPLAINING
HER VOTE TO REPORTERS LEAVING
THE FLOOR WHICH SHE SAID IT WAS
THE MOST DIFFICULT EVALUATION
SHE EVER HAD TO MAKE BUT HERE IS
SOMETHING INTERESTING, WHY THE
MARKETS COULD BE BACKTRACKING
THIS, I'M ONE SAYING THIS MIGHT
NOT BE BASED ON TRUTH AT ALL, I
GO ON WHAT I SEE ARE
DEVELOPMENTS AND REAL TIME
REACTION ON PART OF THE MARKETS.
HE NOT THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE
COURT AT THIS TIME.
NOW WHETHER THAT JIBES WITH HER
OFFICIALLY UNDECIDED, SEPARATELY
MAKING THIS COMMENT, COULD
TELEGRAPH A NO VOTE ON THE JUDGE
IS ANYONE'S GUESS.
PEOPLE ALREADY INTERPRETED THAT
TO MEAN SHE IS A NO VOTE.
THAT HE WILL HAVE TO RELY ON
OTHER UNDECIDEDS ULTIMATELY A
VOTE FOR THE JUDGE BUT THAT IS
WHY ALL OF SUDDEN WE BROUGHT
THIS DOWN TO A MARKET THAT
SHAVED 40 POINTS OFF ITS LOSSES
TO A MARKET NOW EDGING BACK UP
TO WHERE WE WERE.
I'M MAKING THAT LEAP.
NO ONE ELSE IS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
THE GYRATIONS OF THE MARKET.
PLEASE DON'T PUT MUCH STOCK IN
THAT.
I'M TRYING TO CONNECT DOTS WHEN
I SEE THEM.
HOWARD, I RUDELY INTERRUPTED
YOU, IF YOU SHE ENDS UP BEING A
NO VOTE VOTE, ADDED PRESSURE ON
JOE MANCHIN WILL MAKE A
STATEMENT, WHETHER THAT IS ON
THE FLOOR OR THE TWEET WHAT HAVE
YOU, I WOULD BE THE ONLY
DEMOCRAT, PRESUMABLY THE ONLY
DEMOCRAT RIGHT NOW, OFFICIALLY
UNDECIDED WHO WOULD, WHO IS LEFT
TO GET A SENSE WHERE HE IS
COMING FROM.
IF HE IS A YES, OBVIOUSLY THAT
EASES A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE
BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD TO LOSE
MAYBE ONE MORE REPUBLICAN, BUT
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> YEAH.
I GUESS LOOKING AT THE
PROCEDURAL VOTE THERE IS A
LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM HERE.
I TEND TO AGREE ONE THING THAT
KEN MENTIONED EARLIER, LOOKS
VERY LIKELY WITH TOMORROW'S VOTE
HE WILL PASS, NO ADDITIONAL
SHENANIGANS FOR A MOMENT.
I HAD TO LAUGH FOR A MOMENT.
ANYONE WHO LIVED THROUGH THE
FIRST TWO YEARS TRUMP
PRESIDENCY, CALL THIS LOSS OF
CIVILITY HASN'T BEEN PAYING
ATTENTION.
THERE IS ISSUES WITH CIVILITY ON
BOTH SIDES.
KAVANAUGH MADE SOME, SOME
CONCESSIONS IN HIS OP-ED IN AS
MUCH AS SAYING SO BUT I DON'T
THINK WE'LL SEE A WHOLE LOT OF
CIVILITY VOTERS SHOWING UP IN
THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIRED
UP ABOUT THIS ELECTION HAVE
TAKEN AS MUCH AS THEY WANT FROM
DONALD TRUMP AND FROM THIS
CONGRESS AND I THINK THAT IS
REALLY WHERE THE ENTHUSIASM AND
THE FIRE IS COMING FROM THIS
NOVEMBER.
NEIL: YOU COULD JUST EASILY
ARGUE, KEN, PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT
WHO FEEL THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED
CIVILLY, RIGHT?
>> GIVE ME A BREAK.
ECONOMIC GROWTH, JOB CREATION,
YOU KNOW, SECURING OUR BORDERS.
HERE IS THE CHALLENGE.
PEOPLE DON'T TURN OUT IN TERMS
OF INTENSITY BECAUSE THEY ARE
COMFORTABLE.
DONALD TRUMP'S AGENDA MADE
AMERICA YOU KNOW COMFORTABLE
AGAIN.
WHAT HAS IN FACT INTENSIFIED THE
TURNOUT IS, HAS BEEN THIS ATTACK
ON THE LEFT AND THIS ADVOCACY OF
A MOVE TOWARDS SOCIALISM WHICH
IN FACT PEOPLE WILL COME OUT AND
SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE
NEXT VENEZUELA.