We talked to a Turkish man who spoke English, who said he sold everything he
had to get here to the United States.
Did you have to pay a cartel?
Yes. How much?
Around 10,000. 10,000? Yes.
In fact, the American people is right. Completely true.
Who? Coming to this country, they don't know.
Okay. I'm good.
But how? If they're not good, how?
They're killer psychopath. Else no guarantee of that.
Why? Like like no.
No security.
No security check. No background check.
Yesterday, a Turkish immigrant who entered the country illegally
told Fox News that he was concerned about people entering the country illegally.
That, of course, raises one important question Will Genc agree with this man
simply because he is Turkish?
We'll get to that later.
But in all seriousness, the New York Times did interesting reporting yesterday
when they spoke to immigrants at Trump's rally in the Bronx,
and they had similar reservations about people entering the country illegally.
Here are some examples.
I understand this country is built up of immigrants, said Indiana Mitchell, 47, who
said she was from the Dominican Republic.
But I came to this country in the right way.
I didn't come in through the back yard. I came in through the front door.
Rafael Brito, a Queens resident who said he had come to the United States
from the Dominican Republic, said he thought the migrant crisis had exacerbated
crime and made it more difficult for his neighbors to get services they needed.
The whole neighborhood has changed, Brito, 51, said.
And here's what Trump said about immigration at that rally.
Take a look.
When I take office, we are going to restore public safety
and the rule of law in New York City.
That starts with stopping the pouring into our country of millions
and millions of illegal immigrants, which are causing a new category
of violence called migrant crime.
Large numbers of people are coming in from China.
And if you look at these people, did you see them?
They are physically fit.
They're 19 to 25. Almost everyone is a male and they look like fighting Aids.
I think they're building an army. They had 29,000 people over the last.
I think they're building. They want to get us from within.
They cannot stay.
We will immediately begin the largest criminal deportation operation
in our country's history.
Let's go back to the first clip of the Turkish immigrants.
Where do you stand with your Turkish brothers?
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Yeah, the problem with Turks is they're a little too honest.
So, by the way, I watched that clip.
Somebody sent it to me, and I didn't, look at the headline because I was in a hurry.
And the minute he started talking, I was like, He's Turkish.
For two reasons. One, the accent.
I could tell the Turkish accent.
It's like a weird generic accent that you like, doesn't belong to anywhere else.
And, number two is he was way too honest.
So, like, normally, if you're an undocumented immigrant coming in,
you should be like, oh, yeah, no, everything is safe.
Everything is good. Please let us stay here.
But he comes in, he's like, I don't know, we just walk in.
What was. I could be crazy.
Ask ax murderer why you don't stop. Okay.
Anyway, so, guys, it's a misnomer, but I am curious about whether we'll
have some disagreements on this issue.
Right.
So I think that the we do have a significant immigration problem.
I think that we have to have a way better sense way
of stopping people at the border.
And it's not like we we don't stop anybody at the border.
We actually apprehend tons of people at the border.
It's not like we have no process. We do have a process.
So he says, oh, well, they didn't do a check.
I mean, yeah, that's because you got through.
If you got caught then, then they would have had to check on you.
Right? So it's not exactly right.
And you have to come back and do an asylum hearing.
If you're seeking asylum, if you're not seeking asylum, you're just
going to get returned right away.
So so I'm kidding around that it's perfectly honest.
It's not.
He doesn't understand the system. Unsurprising.
He's an undocumented immigrant. He just got here.
Okay.
So. And there are things that are clear that we all agree on.
Trump's language is super dangerous when he talks about the there they
are building an army inside of America and that the enemy is within.
Oof!
Like, if you have no sense of history or context, you might not understand why.
Like even then, you could get that it's hyperbolic.
There's no army inside the country. That's ridiculous.
And you could be concerned about this, but if you have history and context,
then, you know, this is what every demagogue has said before.
They did something vicious to immigrants.
It's what every beginning of fascism sounds like.
And so it's super dangerous language.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that Trump, Biden or whatever,
who's right about immigration?
That's a different topic. We know what's wrong.
Okay, Jules, I mean, I. Have I have a little bit of a different take on this,
which is that even stories like this frustrate me to no end, because the facts
about undocumented immigration are that most undocumented immigrants
are not coming through the border, they're overstaying their visas.
And people who engage in this topic will never acknowledge that they,
you know, most of the people who talk about this online don't know that.
And there's this hyper focus on, you know, immigrants from South
and Central America crossing the border and, like, ruining the country.
And not only is that just overtly racist and pretty dumb, but it's
also just not true by the numbers.
Like the number of of undocumented immigrants not from South
and Central America is higher than those from South and Central America.
The like I said, the number of of visa overstays
is the predominant way that people stay in this country without documentation.
So I feel like there's there's topics like this that get so, where essentially we
allow the right to lead the conversation.
Because, yeah, there are, you know, reforms that we can make to, immigration,
but a lot of them are should be much more focused around speeding up the
visa process, speeding up the immigration process, hiring more immigration lawyers,
making the process less, not just difficult, but but vetted better
if that's the point of vetting who's coming into the country.
So I just I have, like, this just this big problem with how stories like
this are always framed because, like, okay, I mean, this guy got in, you know,
without documentation, like, okay, he got in with the without documentation.
It's not that surprising for immigrants to say, well, we're the last ones.
Like, I myself am a immigrant.
I was born in Ukraine and my family immigrated here in the 90s.
We came as refugees, and even members of my family who are pretty conservative will
say like, well, yeah, we came this way.
We came through this chain migration through one family member, but nobody
else should be allowed to do that.
And it's it's such a bizarre perspective, but it's such a common perspective.
It's like, you know, I got mine. Screw you.
You're not going to get yours.
The whole the whole way that we talk about this, the whole way
that we address this is, is frustrating.
And like personally, I see this happen in my family, in my life.
And it's it's kind of embarrassing and frustrating to see.
So I'm glad you brought that up, Jules.
Because I know someone who works at USCIS and oversees legal review
on chain migration and the applications and the paperwork behind that and that
department, from what I understand, is largely staffed by immigrants because they
have a good understanding of the system and there will be people in there.
This person told me, who will see an application, no, it's valid and seek
to deny it anyway with that same mindset.
Well, I came in the right way. It's like, no, they're doing it.
They're trying to do it the right way. And it's a huge, quagmire.
Because that mindset is even in the legal review process, creating that,
creating an even more broken system that people are trying to navigate out of
because they want to be here.
They want to make this country better and be part of something.
It's really sad.
Yeah. So I have the same experience.
So let me double down on a couple of things.
One, my uncle got us all into the country. He was a doctor, and we owe everything.
But, he voted for Trump in 2016 because even though he knew that, Trump was trying
to ban Muslims from the country, and he was a muslim immigrant to the country.
And this is a common phenomenon where, you know, once folks get here,
sometimes they're the biggest advocate of stopping other people.
And so it's heartbreaking. But it does it definitely happen.
Second of all, is a lot of this racial, keep it real, guys.
So I, you know, when I ran for president, I ran as a naturalized citizen.
It's in the word. It's in the phrase naturalized citizen.
Citizen. Right.
And the number one response I got from the right wing was, well, you don't belong.
You get out of the country.
Wait, wait a minute. I did it the right way.
I came in through the front door.
We applied Legal Immigrant and said, okay, you're not even a citizen.
You're you're a Turk. You're not a citizen, right?
Like. So come on.
You're really worried about economy. You're worried about jobs.
We have record low unemployment. Keep it real.
Okay, now, having said that, it doesn't mean you let everybody in.
It doesn't mean that you don't have a right process.
It doesn't mean that you can't have a rational debate
about what the numbers should be.
Okay, but demagoguing is definitely not the way to go.
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