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hey guys Spirit of the law here tell me
if you've heard this one before you're
starting to make Farms as you run out of
sheep and berries and for the first
eight Farms it's easy to fit them around
your town center maybe just the first
seven if you didn't plan it very well
they're super close to drop off the food
and they're very safe if you're attacked
so far so good now you start doing some
feudal stuff maybe you're making scouts
or man at Arms or whatever and you start
to make more Farms but all the good
spots around your town are used up
should you double up the farm Ms outside
the current ones way out there or do you
make a mill kind of nearby and build
around that if you're in Castle age you
probably just make a new town center so
this question applies to between the
first eight farmers and the point that
you have more Town centers now obviously
if you have a close Mill from your
berries you just use that but maybe your
berries are far away and it's kind of
risky if you get rushed or it's
Scandinavia and you didn't have berries
nearby whatever the case you're not sure
if you should double up the Farms or
build a mill what should you do well
despite what you might think immediately
here it's not really a clear-cut answer
just looking at it building the Farms
farther away means a slower food income
because of increased walking distance
but building a mill is 100 Wood it's
like making a wood investment for faster
food income but how much extra food are
we talking about and how quickly does it
pay back let's take a look and if we
can't answer it outright at least we can
add some facts to the discussion
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so I ran a town with these eight Farmers
for 10 minutes I pick that amount of
time cuz it's about the lifespan of a
farm so they'd have a reed in there it
turns out the eight Farmers collect
about 18 1 food per minute per Farm
that's going to be our Baseline for the
rest of this as a side note I checked
all of these with and without the
wheelbarrow Tech and the numbers I'm
giving are without wheelbarrow but the
wheelbarrow has a consistent effect for
all the different layouts of increasing
The Gather rate by 13.2 to
13.6% so it didn't really change the
outcome and it seems to affect them all
about equally so first I'm going to add
a Mill and put 7 farmers in the general
area it's not necessarily the most
efficient layout but it looks reasonable
to me something that you might see in a
game in total they collected
2,657 food and once I subtract the
1,446 that the inner eight collect and
divide by seven I find the villagers
around the mill are collecting 17.3 food
per minute the geometry is such that
they don't fit as nicely around the mill
as the Town Center so I'd expect a small
drop off like that now if I go back to
the basic setup and add seven Farmers
outside the old ones doubling up I can
see how this Compares I left the the
inner villagers in there since the
bumping that happens isn't something I
want to eliminate that's part of what
I'm looking at again it might not be the
perfect place to put them but it seems
reasonable to me I'm expecting the
collection rate for these new seven to
be the lowest yet since they have to
walk extra distance that's exactly what
we see and after controlling for the
collection of the inner villagers it
looks like the new outer ones average
about 15.5 food per minute so what does
it all mean well building seven farms
around a mill instead of outside your
first Farms gives you 12.4 more food per
minute than doubling them up is that a
lot of food well no it means it takes
about 8 minutes to pay back your initial
100 resources for the mill and they'll
come back to you as food instead of wood
that's very slow just to break even and
you haven't even made a profit at that
point it's basically giving away 100
Wood and waiting 8 minutes before you
even get 100 food back for the Japanese
the mill is half the cost so it might be
worth it in that case but considering
how many other things you'll need wood
for at the time you're likely building
these Farms it's probably better
economically not to make a new Mill as a
side note you're probably safer having
the villagers doubled up as well since
they're technically going to be a bit
closer to the town center normally in
videos like this I like to leave some
ambiguity in the answer but this one
seems pretty clear-cut I guess over the
course of a really long game building
the mill for those Farmers could add up
to a few hundred food so that's one
argument that you could make like I said
at the beginning though if you if you
have a good meal from your berries just
lying around that's close enough to your
town center that you feel safe putting
Farms there then that should be your
first choice that's probably the best
case scenario but this helps you have a
backup plan that'll do it for this one
though thanks for watching guys and I'll
see you next time
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