- Hey guys-- (men drowning each other out)
- Custom Offsets TV on the YouTube.
- You guys are gonna want to take a look at this newest...
(both laughing)
Okay, I will do one intro and then you do an intro.
- But if you...
- and then-- - A soon a I start...
This is going well.
- Wow. - Hey, what's going on, guys?
Fuller here from Custom Offsets,
Custom Offsets TV on the YouTube,
and since this is on Fitment Industries, I guess--
- Yeah, what's going on, guys?
This is Alex from Fitment Industries
and we have partnered with Custom Offsets
to bring out the hottest debated subject
that you never thought you'd hear us talk about--
- Right. - Which is what?
- Well, is an SUV a car or a truck?
That is what is up for debate,
because they are so many people out there that it's like,
all right, so I have a lowered SRT Jeep Cherokee,
do I shop on Custom Offsets
or do I shop on Fitment Industries?
Where do I get my wheels from?
- And who do you associate with?
If you have that-- - No freaking clue.
Yeah, do you associate with truck people?
Or do you associate with car people?
- There's such a weird debate and it can go either way,
and so I think we wanted to do here,
we literally have no idea what we are doing.
We sat down to make this video and Alex was going to ask me
how we are going to talk about it,
and I said stop talking, we'll figure it out on camera.
So what I've done is I went to the gallery and I pulled out
vehicles from the Fitment Industries' gallery,
as well as vehicles from Customs Offsets' gallery,
obviously all SUVs, so we can kind of debate what is a SUV
and what market do they associate with.
Because there's some people that are gonna get technical
and say, well, an SUV has a frame,
so, like, your Ford Excursion
and things that come on a F-250 chassis, basically,
because they are a solid-frame vehicles.
Where you have a crossover vehicles that's unibody
and it's like a car.
But there are SUVs nowadays that are unibody
because all the manufactures have realized that,
I don't know if it's cheaper for them or if it's just easier
to produce, but it seems like everybody
is going to a unibody construction.
- Yeah, that's true.
I think you've seen a lot of that,
especially in the newer cars and stuff, too.
With so many people paying attention to gas mileage,
and weight, and things like that,
so it'd be interesting to see.
All I know is that everything looks better
when it's, like, tucked and lowered.
- Yeah - And not raised on some--
- So this is gonna be so interesting because the same video
is gonna be on Fitment Industries and Custom Offsets.
So you're gonna have people that are like, what, no!
And then we're gonna have people that are saying
the exact same thing, but to the opposite direction.
So I want to start with the GMC Yukon.
Now, these are both 2018 and 2017.
I'll pull them both up and we'll take a look at them.
So the first one that's loading up,
now this guy, is this a car guy?
So it's a 2018 GMC Yukon.
He's on 24x10+20s.
- [Alex] 100%.
100%.
Yeah, I won't even doubt it.
Not a doubt in my mind, and here's why:
Because you can tell this man bought this
because he just wanted a comfortable ride
and to also show the world, I have some money, right?
And then you got the 20x10+20s,
which means he's still going with a car-ish style offset,
besides, obviously, the actual diameter boot.
- [Fuller] Right, the size itself.
- [Alex] But then he even went with Proxes.
- [Fuller] Which is a good street tire for cars.
- [Alex] I mean, it's not really a truck tire.
It's not a Nitto Ridge Grappler, if you will.
So, that's the way I see it.
And it looks pretty moderate.
It looks like it's stock suspension.
Doesn't look like anything crazy.
It looks like he threw some wheels and tires on it,
called it good.
- [Fuller] But, like, I love the look of this,
which I'm sure people are probably gonna be upset,
and I think I would have to agree that this guy
probably more closely associates to a car company.
But you can buy these wheels on Custom Offsets, too.
So you have both. - Look at the sidewall, too.
35 sidewall tire.
- Yeah, not a lot of sidewall for a vehicle.
Now, we'll pull up this one, this is a 2017,
but it's the same body style so you get the same concept.
- Now, Fitment Industries, don't freak out,
but there are people in this world that instead
of bringing the car down they actually bring it up,
and we're gonna find out why.
We are gonna find out.
There is a reason.
Holy Moly.
- [Fuller] Right, so now you look at this one.
And you are like okay it's the same thing but this one's
lifted six inches in the air and he's running 22x12-44s.
So the last one was positive offset.
Positive 20. - And this is a -44.
- [Fuller] So this is sticking out significantly further.
I mean, you can look at the head on shot.
- [Alex] And he's on some specialty forged wheels.
- [Fuller] Which, I don't know if car guys will know,
but that's a very expensive forged truck wheel.
- [Alex] Yeah, that's an expensive truck wheel.
That's an expensive set of wheels right there.
- [Fuller] So, like, now this guy.
This is a truck guy. - 100%.
- [Fuller] But you could also make the argument that,
does this actually go off road,
and does that make it more close to a car?
- [Alex] That's a tough question because is a Yukon
really meant for anything other than looks?
- [Fuller] No, I would say no.
- [Alex] And that's why I think they associate more
with the car side of things than the truck side of things.
Not saying that truck guys don't like looks.
- I still love this, it's very clean-looking.
It's totally different than the last thing we saw,
but I would drive either one of them.
If I could have both, I would have both.
So another really good example is the Grand Cherokee.
- 100%.
- This is probably--
- A lot of Jeeps are kind of like that, too.
Now, this one, obviously, I think more people
would classify for truck stuff.
- As a truck, but you can't call a Jeep--
- A truck.
- You can't call a Wrangler a truck
because people will get upset.
- Yeah, everybody get a little,
it's a very technical market, the Jeep folk,
in terms of what's what and for who and when.
- And that's a full-frame vehicle.
It has straight axles, so that leans toward truck side.
Then you get into things like Grand Cherokee,
and we pull up this very car version of the Grand Cherokee.
22x10.5+35.
So a very flush fitment.
Ultra high performance summer tire, not much sidewall.
Looks super fast, looks very mean.
Would love to drive.
- [Alex] Look at those brakes.
- [Fuller] Yeah, big ole brindles on there.
- [Alex] I'm pretty sure, I think what happened with Jeep
is they're just like, we have a lot of money,
what can we do?
Because that seemed to do pretty well.
And they're like, let's just put a big (bleep) motor
in everything that we possibly can.
And then they did.
And then it attracted everybody that liked to go fast.
Which I think pulls in more car people.
But the jeep also--
- [Fuller] But you still have utility.
- [Alex] Yeah, but you still get the utility
so then what happens is an individual
who may have a little bit more cash on his pocket
is saying, you know, I could swing this
as a utility vehicle and still have 700 horsepower.
It would be like a win-win scenario.
- [Fuller] And that same guy, if they're not gonna lower it,
now they do this.
So now you're lifted.
You have three-inch suspension lift, you have some off-road,
these are technically a hybrid tires,
but good off-road, good on-road kind of combination.
- [Alex] Small lift, three-inch lift, which is pretty cool.
- [Fuller] You got a big rack on top.
You got some LED lighting.
Now, this isn't the 700 horsepower variant,
but you could still do it with the same thing.
- [Alex] Here's what I enjoy about this, though,
a little bit more than the first one that we saw.
And I know that car guys are gonna get mad at me
for saying this, but I like this look almost
just as much if not more.
Because when I look at, if I would use this
in my day-to-day life, I'd use the (bleep) out of that.
But I look at the other one and I'd be like,
oh, I don't want to drive it.
I just gotta be careful with it.
You don't want anything to happen.
The brakes are gonna be insanely expensive.
It's a vehicle that has one purpose
and that's to go fast and be expensive.
I mean, that's two reasons, but you get the point.
Whereas this is like, hey, utility, you can use it.
It's got some nice, like, it still has a little bit
of focus, it has small lift but it's still nice.
- [Fuller] Right, you get the extra ground clearance
that you're looking for.
It clearly looks like he uses his vehicle,
I don't know if he has some sort of awning
or rooftop tent on there.
But you know the outdoors, hunting, fishing, camping guy
that doesn't want to go to a truck because a lot of times
the reason why people choose SUVs over trucks
is simply because they can store their cargo in here
and not worry about it getting wet.
Now, obviously you can put a cap on the back
of your pickup, too, but it's just easier to just get a SUV.
- And I know that people enjoy the driving experience
of SUVs a little bit more than they do of trucks.
When you compare them to, like--
- Because they drive more similar to a car.
- And they're easier to handle, there easier to kind of get
the feedback of like driving the actual thing off road,
or if you're using it as a utility vehicle.
People just seem to have more versatility
with the utility vehicle than a truck.
- Exactly. - Which is funny.
- And that kind of brings me to the next one
is why the Toyotas are so popular
as an over landing vehicle.
So here's another great example of
this is more of the truck setup.
Now, I don't think I have ever seen a Toyota 4Runner
that I would be like, that's more of a car guy.
- [Alex] I don't think I have, either, to be honest.
Usually they just chop off, you know, they old brush guard
on the front, they make it look like a pre-runner
and they just, like--
- And the just send it. - Yeah.
- [Fuller] So does it really depend on what vehicle it is?
Because the Yukon, I think we both agreed,
that could be a car or a truck.
If you look at the Wrangler, well, that's probably a truck.
And then like looking at a 4Runner,
that more aligns with a truck.
- Yeah, I would say that with the Cherokees,
the stuff that I think has the a little bit more
of a flashiness to it,
it appeals to that, sort of, look-at-me personality.
- Because it has so many luxury features.
- Yeah, that I think it attracts the car guys
a little bit more.
Whereas 4Runners and stuff like that,
they naturally have a utility look to them,
that people just would rather put the lift kits,
rather put the higher-end stuff on that
and say let's just take this bad boy off road
instead of buying something that's an $80,000 go-fast car.
- [Fuller] Right, yeah.
When you look at the cost, it's like,
okay, so you buy that $80,000 Jeep,
do you want to take that off road?
- No. - I don't think I do.
- Nobody would
- I mean, I want to, but I can't live with myself.
- Well everybody wants to.
It's like watching Tax the Rich videos,
when they're drifting, like,
F-40s and F-50s through airports.
Everybody wants to do that, but nobody is going to do that,
besides the one maniac that has way too much money.
I mean, it's kind of a unique situation.
Maybe if we were dreaming.
I mean, I would happily do that, just, like, send it.
- This is the last vehicle I want to showcase.
And I wanted to bring this one up particularly
because car guys are gonna be like,
what the (bleep) did you do?
And truck guys are gonna be like,
(beep) yeah, brother, sign me up for that.
This is actually a personal friend of ours,
this is Josh Beacham, he's has been here multiple times.
This is 30x16s American Forces on here.
- [Alex] How expensive are those tires?
- The tires? - Yeah, 30x16s.
That can't be a cheap. - The wheels.
- [Alex] I mean, the wheels are expensive.
We know the wheels are expensive.
But here's the thing, when we look at expensive car tires,
we're looking $2,200, $2,300 for, like expensive.
- [Fuller] Oh, you can pay that for just one.
- [Alex] That's expensive for car guys.
- [Fuller] Just one, not for the set.
So you could easily pay over $4,000 for a set of tires.
And then these wheels are, like, upwards of $10,000,
depending on what you choose for options and whatnot.
- [Alex] Should've gotten the truck-end first.
- [Fuller] They get expensive, they get super expensive.
And then this one, too, like I was saying, Ford Excursion,
so this comes on a F-250 pickup truck chassis.
- [Alex] That's a 12-inch lift.
- [Fuller] Right, I think it's actually bigger.
I don't know what he put in here.
- [Alex] Lifted greater than 12 inches.
- [Fuller] Yeah, it's a 24-inch lift
custom four wheeling setup.
- [Alex] How do you, how do you...
Do you just dive in? - All custom fabrication.
- Do you just jump? - Yep.
Grab your Sawzall, start to cuttin'.
It's kind of how it goes. - Oh my God.
- So does this video answer any questions?
- No, absolutely not. - No, not really.
But we kind of left that up to you,
because we can't be the one to answer
is a SUV a car or a truck, because an SUV is an SUV.
That's why they made its own class of vehicle.
That's why there's a sport utility vehicle segment
in the market.
And now the CUV which is the crossovers,
which people actually do make lift kits for also--
- But you have to look at there's so many other vehicles
out there, too, like the Audi Q5.
Just like the Audi, that platform,
you see all over the car scene,
yet when you really classify it between the two,
is it a car?
Is it not a car?
Is it a truck?
Is it a SUV? - I mean, it's an SUV.
- What do you prefer?
And that's actually where we really wanted
your guys' feedback because we want to show you guys
cool stuff, but we don't want to show you (bleep)
that you don't like.
And that's the dilemma that we're having.
- So on Custom Offsets, you can shop for both trucks
and SUVs, even lowered SUVs.
And on Fitment Industries, I think you guys have gotten away
from some of that SUV market, but you do see questions
all the time on your Facebook and on your Instagram--
- We get asked every single day from people
that own, like, Cherokees and stuff like that--
- What's the fitment for my Cherokee?
- So if you guys don't want to see that, let us know,
but if you do want to see it and you want to see
cool fast SUVs and stuff like that without getting away
from what makes our car stuff, car stuff, let us know.
- We got both.
- Yeah, I mean, I guess.
- So if you want to go to his website,
it's www.fitmentindustries.com
- If you wan to go to his website,
you can go to www.customoffsets.com.
- And it not mine or his, but we at least like to pretend
that it ours, right?
- Yeah, pretty much. - I mean, sort of.
- I mean, that's pretty much it.
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