I MEAN, THAT'S AS SURREAL AS MY
LIFE GOT TO THIS POINT.
I'M NOT YET 40 BUT THAT'S
SURREAL.
THE YOUNGER DAUGHTER THAT'S
2 1/2 SAID THANK YOU TO YOU AND
PRODUCERS HAVE IT AND THEY'LL
SHARE IT WITH YOU SOME POINT.
>> I WANT DO SEE IT!
I WANT TO SEE IT.
THERE IT IS.
IS IT OKAY TO PLAY IT ON TV?
>> SURE, SURE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET ME SEE IT.
>> I LOVE YOU!
>> AMERICA.
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
>> YOU TELL HER --
>> DOESN'T KNOW THAT MUCH
ENGLISH.
>> BEAUTIFUL.
TELL HER WHEN THIS IS DONE I'LL
TAKE HER TO DISNEY WORLD.
>> PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT.
I'LL HAVE TO -- YOU CAN IMAGINE
THE UNIVERSE.
BUT THE OLDER DAUGHTER, SHE HAD
A SURREAL EXPERIENCE, AS WELL.
DOING INTERVIEWS ON AMERICAN TV
SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AND
GRABBED MY ARM AND SAID I WANT
TO TALK TO YOU.
WHAT HAPPENED?
SHE GOES LIKE WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY
DO YOU TELL ME THAT AMERICANS
SUPPORT ME WHEN THEY DON'T?
THAT SURPRISED ME.
SHE WAS WATCHING TUCKER CARLSON.
TUCKER CARLSON IS, YOU KNOW,
PROBABLY NOT THE TYPICAL
AMERICAN.
JUST IMAGINE THE PREDICTMENTAMEN
EXPLAIN THIS.
SO JUST A QUICK MESSAGE TO HIM.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO WELCOME HIM AT
OUR HOUSE IN KYIV AND SEE IF HE
IS STILL STICKING BY THE
BELIEFS.
SO THAT'S HOW --
>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM?
>> LOOK.
I'M -- I DON'T ARGUE WITH HIM
BUT INVITE HIM TO KYIV WHY
CALLING HIMSELF A JOURNALIST
THERE'S A TINY BIT IN THERE WHY
NOT SEE FIRSTHAND AND THEN FORM
AN OPINION?
KIDS WATCH HIM IN UKRAINE.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO
UKRAINIAN TEENAGER THAT THERE
ARE MORE ARGUMENTS IN THIS
CONVERSATION THAT SHE KNOWS AND
SHE'S A SINCERE AS SHE GETS.
BY THE WAY, ANOTHER INTERESTING
STORY, I'M TRYING TO KEEP
POSITIVE.
PEOPLE ASK ME WHY I KEEP
SMILING.
A WAR AGAINST POSITIVITY AND
HUMAN NATURE AND I THINK EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A SMILE ON MY
FACE AND OTHER PEOPLE'S FACES.
THERE WAS A BABY BORN IN A BOMB
SHELTER TWO DAYS FROM US AND THE
COMMUNITY WAS COLLECTING
DIFFERENT THINGS.
BABY FOOD AND, YOU KNOW, CLOTHES
AND -- IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
LIKE LOOK.
SHOULDN'T HAPPEN BUT WHEN IT
HAPPENS YOU HAVE TO SEE THE
POSITIVE IN IT SO IT'S REALLY
INCREDIBLE.
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE
CHEMICAL WEAPONS STORY?
IT IS A HUGE STORY HERE.
THIS IS RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION
AMPLIFIED AND I'M GUESSING WHY
YOUR 13-YEAR-OLD KNOWS WHO
CARLSON IS.
THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR TO THE
UNITED NATIONS HAS BEEN KNOCKING
IT DOWN TODAY THAT AMERICAN
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, STATE
DEPARTMENT, CIA DIRECTOR,
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE HAVE ALL CALLED
THIS OUT FOR WHAT IT IS.
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA.
THEY SEEM TO LEAVE OPEN THE
POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S SOME SORT
OF PROJECTION THAT PUTIN IS
ACCUSING UKRAINE OF HAVING OR
PLANNING TO USE BIO WEAPONS
BECAUSE HE PLANS TO USE THEM
HIMSELF AND YOU SAID YOU WERE
TEACHING YOUR DAUGHTERS THROUGH
POEMS WHAT TO DO.
IS THAT A REAL FEAR?
>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO FACTORS
THAT KIND OF UNNERVE ME TO DO
WITH POTENTIAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS
ATTACKS.
WE HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG TIME
AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT THE FACT
THAT PUTIN HAS RED LINES.
HE DOESN'T.
WE HAVE SEEN MATERNITY WARDS
BOMBARDED AND THE FOREIGN
MINISTER SAY IT WAS A SET-UP.
SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A BABY GIRL
AND THERE ARE PICTURES IF THEY
ARE WATCHING.
SO THEY'VE KIND OF -- WE HAVE
MASS GRAVES IN BUSTLING CITIES.
THAT KIND OF MAKES YOU WONDER
WHERE HE STOPS AND I DON'T THINK
IT'S CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
SECONDLY HIS OBSESSION WITH
KYIV.
I AGREE WITH RICHARD ON BEFORE
ME.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE IT WITH
CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS.
HALF THE POPULATION LEFT BUT
STILL NEARLY 2 MILLION PEOPLE
AND PLENTY OF GUNS AND HIGH-RISE
BUILDINGS.
THE CITY'S BEEN PREPARING FOR
TWO WEEKS.
YOU CAN'T TAKE A CITY LIKE THAT.
HITLER USED A MILLION PEOPLE TO
TAKE KHARKIV.
SO IF HE IS STILL ADAMANT
THAT -- BY THE FACT TO TAKE IT,
MAKES YOU WONDER HOW BECAUSE USE
OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS COULD BE
THAT ADVANTAGE TO USE.
LOOK.
ALSO THE STORIES THEY POST.
YEAH.
PIGEONS BOMBING RUSSIAN CITIES
WITH VIRUSES IS A BIT TOO MUCH
EVEN FOR ME.
YOU KNOW?
I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH
MISINFORMATION FOR FIVE YEARS
NOW.
>> THAT'S A HARROWING SCENARIO
YOU OUTLINED INTENT ON TAKING
KYIV AND THE CONVOYS SEEMED TO
STALL AND IT IS ONE SCENARIO
THAT YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST
CONTEMPLATE.
WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU AS A
UKRAINIAN, AS A FORMER ADVISER
TO THE PRESIDENT AND A FATHER?
TO HAVE TO CONTEMPLATE THAT.
>> PERSONALLY, WE HAD A
CONVERSATION WITH MY WIFE
YESTERDAY AND SAID TO HER THAT
THERE'S A LINE THAT WE'RE NOT
GOING TO CROSS.
IF IT IS TOO DANGEROUS AND
LOOKING AT CHEMICAL WEAPONS
YOU'RE LEAVING.
AS LONG AS SHE HAS AN ESCAPE
ROUTE SHE AND THE GIRL CANS
STAY.
I'M STAYING.
I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO
ANSWER THE FAVORITE QUESTION OF
EVERY INTERVIEWER.
WHY IS ZELENSKYY LIKE THAT?
WHY ARE YOU LIKE THAT?
ARE YOU INSANE?
WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE TO
POLAND AND START FRESH?
LOOK.
THE BOAST PEOPLE TO TALK TO
ABOUT THAT IS AMERICAN VETERANS.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST ASK THEM WHY
FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY?
WHY NOT JUST MOVE TO MEXICO?
WHY PROTECT THE PEOPLE?
WHY PROTECT THE WOMEN AND
CHILDREN?
YOU NEED TO ASK THE VETERANS.
KUDOS TO AMERICA.
YOU'RE JUST LIKE US IN THAT
SENSE.
YOU KIND OF CHERISH AND RESPECT
AND SUPPORT THE VETERANS.
TALK TO THEM.
THEY'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY
UKRAINIANS ARE LIKE THAT AND WHY
AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE LIKE THAT.
THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER
THAT QUESTION.
>> FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO
UKRAINE MARIE YOVANOVITCH MADE
THE SAME POINT THAT YOU VALUE
THE FREEDOM IN A WAY THAT
AMERICAN HISTORY SUGGESTS WE
SHOULD VALUE OURS AND NOT
POSITIVE, NOT AT THE BRIGHTEST
POINT AS A COUNTRY AS I'M SURE
YOU KNOW.
WE HAVE A SHOT THROUGH THIS
INTERVIEW OF KYIV AND A SENSE
AMONG THE PRESS THAT COVERS --
THE PENTAGON, THE STATE
DEPARTMENT HERE OF REAL ANXIETY
AND FEAR AS TODAY TURNED TO
NIGHT AND THE TWO ATTACKS FROM
PUTIN THAT WERE NOT ON THE FRONT
LINES TOOK PLACE AS THE WRECKAGE
IN MARIUPOL BECOMES CLEAR.
AS THE TARGETING OF CIVILIANS
BECOMES OBVIOUS AND INDISPUTABLE
AND THE ARREST OF MUSEUM
DIRECTORS AND WHERE PUTIN GAINED
AN ADVANTAGE.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF THE
DAMAGE THAT YOUR COUNTRY HAS
SURRED OVER THE LAST 14 DAYS?
>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF
LEVELS.
AND DIMENSIONS TO THE DAMAGE.
PHYSICALLY AND INFRASTRUCTURELY
WE HAVE LOST OUR BEST PEOPLE.
WE HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS CIVILIAN
DEATHS AND AS MENTIONED
YESTERDAY BY THE DEFENSE
MINISTRY RUSSIA KILLED MORE
CITIZENS THAN SOLDIERS IN
UKRAINE.
THEY ARE DOING THAT
INTENTIONALLY.
PLUS KIND OF PLANNING TO INVITE
FOREIGN MERCENARIES FROM SYRIA
TO KILL UKRAINIANS.
IT IS NOT ABOUT DEMILITARIZATION
AND CONVENTIONAL GEOPOLITICS.
IT IS GENOCIDE, A MASSACRE.
FUNNY STORY.
TRYING TO SEE POSITIVITY IN
EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE INTERCEPTS OF THE SYRIAN
MERCENARIES AND CHAT IRTER THAT
THEY WILL RUN TO THE EU AS
REFUGEES.
PUTIN MIGHT BE IN FOR A SURPRISE
AND OUT OF A LOT OF MONEY.
IT IS TERRIBLE.
LITERALLY LEVELING EVERYTHING.
DE
DESTROYING CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS
AND MORE THAN MILITARY BASES.
THAT TELLS THE STORY.
THERE'S AN IMPORTANT MORAL TO
THE STORY.
THERE'S A CERTAIN LESSON TO BE
LEARNED.
EVERYONE IN THE WEST TALK ABOUT
WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE?
WORLD WAR III.
IT DOESN'T WORK IN HIS WORLD.
IF HE WANTS TO FIGHT WITH YOU
AND WANTS A WAR WITH YOU HE'LL
GO TO WAR OVER SANCTIONS OR A
WEAPONIZED PIGEONS OR WHATEVER.
LOOK.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO POSSIBLE
SCENARIOS HERE.
EITHER COMPLETELY UNHINGED AND
THEREFORE THERE'S NO NEED TO BE
AFRAID OF PROVOKING HIM.
HE'LL PROVOKE HIMSELF.
OR HE IS SANE AND EVIL AND
BASICALLY HE IS PLAYING YOU FOR
A FOOL AND WANTS YOU TO BE
AFRAID OF HIM TO RESET THE MAPS
BACK TO 1945.
IN EITHER CASE YOU FIGHT HIM AT
SOME POINT.
WHY NOT DO IT NOW AND SAVE THE
CIVILIANS?
THAT'S ONE THING THAT KIND OF
LIKE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
AND THE SECOND THING I CAN'T
UNDERSTAND IS WHY DOES
MULTINATIONAL BUSINESS STAY IN
RUSSIA?
TRYING TO SPEAK WITH
INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRMS.
YEAH?
THEY'RE SAYING WE WILL STAY IN
RUSSIA.
GUYS, YOU'RE PAYING TAXES TO GET
BOMBED.
IT IS LIKE DEALING WITH AL QAEDA
AFTER 9/11.
WE PROBABLY NEED YOUR HELP.
TRY TO REASON WITH THEM.