LEGISLATURE THAT IS TRYING TO
RESTRICT VOTERS’ ACCESS TO THE
BALLOT BOX.
>> LET’S LOOK AT ANOTHER STATE,
TEXAS, THAT HAS SOME LEGISLATION
THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS, WOULD
LIMIT VOTING HOURS, RESTRICT THE
NUMBER OF VOTING MACHINES AT
COUNTYWIDE POLLING PLACES, BAN
ELECTION OFFICIALS FROM SENDING
OUT UNSOLICITED MAIL BALLOTS,
APPLICATIONS TO VOTERS AND
PROVIDE MORE ACCESS TO POLL
WATCHERS AT ELECTION SITES.
ERIC HOLDER HAD THIS TO SAY TO
THE "DALLAS MORNING NEWS."
A MULTI- WARWAR ON DEMOCRACY.
INCLUDING THE SLEW OF BILLS IN
TEXAS.
WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO
DO WITH ELECTION INTEGRITY?
THERE’S DIABOLICAL WAYS FROM THE
POLLS AND GET THERE IN A REALLY
EASY WAY.
CLAIRE, IT’S HARD TO SEPARATE
THIS FROM WHAT WE’VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THIS
HOUR WHICH IS THAT IF THE POLLS
SUGGEST THAT FEWER PEOPLE
IDENTIFY AS REPUBLICANS, IF MORE
PEOPLE IN YOUR PARTY BELIEVE
THINGS THAT ARE PROVABLY UNTRUE,
THIS IS YOUR PATH TO MAYBE
HOLDING ON TO SOME HOUSES IN THE
CONGRESS, MAYBE HOLDING ON TO
STATE LEGISLATURES AND
GOVERNORSHIPS.
>> YEAH, I JUST DON’T THINK THIS
IS A GOOD STRATEGY THOUGH.
I MEAN, LET’S BACK THIS TRUCK UP
AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY’RE
ACTUALLY DOING.
WHAT THEY’RE SAYING TO EVERYONE
IS, WE DON’T WANT YOU TO VOTE.
BECAUSE IF YOU VOTE, WE’RE NOT
GOING TO WIN.
SO I MEAN, GUESS WHAT THAT MAKES
EVERYBODY WANT TO DO.
IT MAKES EVERYBODY WANT TO VOTE.
IF YOU ARE DENIED A RIGHT THAT
IS FUNDAMENTALLY AMERICAN, IF
THEY ARE MAKING IT HARD, AND
THEY HAVE MADE VERY CLEAR THAT’S
THEIR MESSAGE HERE, AND BY THE
WAY, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR
A WHILE.
THIS DIDN’T START WITH TRUMP.
THEY’VE BEEN TRYING TO LIMIT
ACCESS TO THE POLLS FOR A LONG
TIME.
I MEAN, WE SHOULDN’T HAVE
ELECTIONS ON TUESDAYS.
WE SHOULD HAVE OPEN ELECTIONS
FOR MORE THAN ONE OR TWO DAYS.
WE SHOULD MAKE THIS EASY,
EVERYBODY SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY
BE REGISTERED.
BUT INSTEAD, THE REPUBLICANS ARE
AFRAID OF VOTERS.
THEY’RE SCARED OF VOTERS.
THEY DON’T WANT VOTERS.
THAT IS NOT A LONG-TERM WINNING
STRATEGY FOR A POLITICAL PARTY.
I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, THEY’RE
GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE
TO VOTE AND THEY’RE GOING TO
VOTE AGAINST THEM.
>> IT IS SUCH A GOOD POINT,
CLAIRE.
WE SAW PEOPLE LINING UP IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC AND IN
THE EARLY DAYS OF THE PANDEMIC
WHEN THERE WAS A LOT MORE FEAR
AND LOT LESS KNOWN, WE SAW THEM
WAITING FOR HOURS AND HOURS TO
VOTE IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT
THEY WERE TOLD MANY TIMES IN
MANY WAYS, WE DON’T WANT YOU TO
DO THAT.
>> YEAH, IT IS NOT A GOOD LOOK
FOR A POLITICAL PARTY.
LOOK, I THINK THE KEY QUESTION
IS, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
WHY ARE THESE STATES DOING THIS?
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THEY’RE
TRYING TO SOLVE?
AND THE ANSWER IS, IT IS BECAUSE
OF THE BIG LIE THAT WE HEARD
FROM DONALD TRUMP WHO TRIED TO
OVERTURN THE ELECTION.
I’LL TELL YOU WHAT DISTURBS ME
THE MOST.
I DO THINK THERE ARE THINGS YOU
CAN DO TO MITIGATE SOME OF THESE
RESTRICTIONS ON VOTING.
I THINK THERE WILL BE A BACKLASH
AGAINST THAT.
BUT WHAT WORRIES ME THE MOST IS
THE QUESTION OF HOW WILLING ARE
REPUBLICAN AND REPUBLICAN
LEGISLATORS TO TRY TO OVERTURN
THE RESULTS OF AN ELECTION.
WE SAW THIS ATTEMPT IN 2020.
WE KNOW WHAT DONALD TRUMP TRIED
TO DO.
HE TRIED TO GET LEGISLATURES TO
COME IN AND OVERTURN THE
ELECTION.
ELECTION OFFICIALS TO FIND THE
BALLOTS.
WHAT IF THERE ARE MORE TRUMPIAN
ELECTION OFFICIALS NEXT WEEK?
WAS THE BIG LIE A REHEARSAL FOR
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THE
FUTURE?
AND THAT NO LONGER FEELS EXTREME
TO SAY THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
LOOK AT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF
THE ELECTION LAWS WHICH GIVE
PARTISAN LEGISLATURES MUCH MORE
POWER AND AUTHORITY THAN THEY
HAD IN THE PAST.
SO I GUESS I’M MUCH MORE
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE
SAW THE WILLINGNESS OF DONALD
TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS AND THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY TO GO ALONG
WITH THE NULLIFICATION OF THE
ELECTION.
NOT JUST MAKING IT HARDER TO
VOTE BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO