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♪I BELIEVE I CAN FLY, I BELIEVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKY ♪
♪4@ I THINK ABOUT IT EVERY NIGH
AND DAY ♪
AND DAY ♪
AND DAY ♪ >> THAT'S ONE 4@OF R KELLY'S MO
POPULAR SONGS.4@
POPULAR SONGS.4@ I BELIEVE I 4@CAN FLY.
ALSO ONE OF THE CLEANEST.
4@HIS BEHAVIOR TO WOMEN IS A
4@
4@HIS BEHAVIOR TO WOMEN IS A FOCUS OF NATIONAL ATTENTION.
AFTER A TELEVISION SERIES LAID
OUT THE HISTORY OF ABUSE 4@
ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM.
WE WANT TO WELCOME FACEBOOK
LIVE VIEWERS.
LIVE VIEWERS. WEIGH IN ON THE NEXT STORY.
GO AHEAD, JUMP ON, IT'S A SIX-
PART DUCU SERIES ON LIFETIME
THAT ACCUSED SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO
ACCUSED 4@THE PERFORMER OF
MENTAL, PHYSICAL, AND SEXUAL
ABUSE.
ABUSE.
ABUSE. HE
ABUSE. HE BECAME A TRENDING TOPIC OF
SOCIAL MEDIA WITH MANY USING
THE #MUTERKELLY.
THE #MUTERKELLY. VLADIMIR4@4@VLADIMIR HAS MORE.
THEY'V4@E NEVER BEEN LAID OUT
LIKE THIS.
LIKE THIS. 4@
LIKE THIS. >> ALL THESE THINGS THAT I
DIDN'T WANT TO BE I BECAME.
>> THE LIFETIME SERIES
SURVIVING R KELLY FEATURED
INTERVIEWS OF WOMEN ACCUSING
THE SINGER OF BEING CONTROLLING
AND MENTALLY AND SEXUALLY
ABUSIVE.
ABUSIVE.
ABUSIVE. HE ASKED ME HOW OLD I WAS.
I TOLD HIM I WAS 17.
I GUESS I FELT L4@IKE I WAS
TRICKED INTO SOMETHING.
>> SHE CLAIMS HOW KELLY WOULD
RESTRICT HER MOVEMENT.
SLAP HER FACE, AND FORCE HER TO
HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN.
HE'D PICK ME UP FROM THE
AIRPORT.
AIRPORT.
AIRPORT. I GOT IN THE 4@CAR.
HE BEGAN BEATING ME IN THE CAR.
SHE SAYS SHE'S SHARING HER
STORY BECAUSE SHE BELIEVES HE
MAY STILL BE MISTREATING
OTHERS.
OTHERS.
OTHERS. >> I REALLY WANT HIM TO GET
SOME HELP.
SOME HELP. I DO.
I DO.
I DO. >>
I DO. >> IN JULY, HE RELEASED A 20
MINUTE LONG SINGLE TITLED I
ADMIT.
ADMIT.
ADMIT. IN
ADMIT. IN IT HE SINGS HE MADE MISTAKES
BUT 4@NEVER DISRESPECTED OR
ABUSED WOMEN.
ABUSED WOMEN. >> YOU MAY HAVE YOUR OPINION,
ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION.
BUT REALLY AM I SUPPOSED TO GO
TO JAIL OR LOSE MY CAREER
BE4@CAUSE YOUR OPINION.
♪ I BELIEVE I CAN FLY ♪
>> KELLY'S CAREER THRIVED SINCE
♪ I BELIEVE I CAN FLY ♪ >> KELLY'S CAREER THRIVED SINCE@
ALLEGATIONS SURFACED IN THE MID
90S.
90S.
90S. HE'S
90S. HE'S CONTINUED TO PERFORM
DESPITE PROTESTS AND IS WORKING
ON A NEW ALBUM, HOWEVER, THE
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF SURVIVING
R KELLY 4@SAID IT WAS INCREDIBL
DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE WHO HAD
COLLABORATED WITH KELLY TO 4@CO
FORWARD.
FORWARD.
FORWARD. MUSICIANS WHO DID APPEAR,
CHANCE THE RAPPER --
>> MAKING A SONG WITH R KELLY
WAS A MISTAKE.
>> AND JOHN LEGEND.
>> HE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. AND I HOPE THERE'S SOME JUSTICE
DONE TO HIM4@ AT SOME POINT.
>> JONES SAYS SHE HOPES
SURVIVING R 4@KELLY WILL LEAD T
CHANGE.
CHANGE.
CHANGE. >> I THINK PUTTING US ALL ON,
YOU KNOW, CA4@MERA, THIS WAS TH
4@
YOU KNOW, CA4@MERA, THIS WAS TH FIRST TIME IT WAS ACTUALLY IN
PEOPLE'S FACES.
PEOPLE'S FACES. I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT THEY
GAVE US A VOICE.
.
. >>
. >> OKAY, DEBBIE MARTIN IS HERE
TO MY LEFT.
SHE'S AN ON AIR CONTRIBUTOR, A
SOCIAL MEDIA GURU.
NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
CAMERON MILLER, ONE OF OUR
FRATERNITY BROTHERS IS AN
ENTREPRENEUR AND INFLUENC4@ER,
WHAT IS AN INFLUENCER?
>> I DO A LOT OF EVENTS IN THE
CITY.
CITY.
CITY. I
CITY. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU OUT THER4
ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS.
COMMENTS.
COMMENTS. GET THEM IN.
WE'LL ADDRESS 4@THEM.
I WANT TO START WITH YOU.
YOU TEXTED ME TODAY AND SAID WE
NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
IT'S GOING UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT IS IN MY HOUSEHOLD.
I DIDN'T WATCH IT.
BUT TELL ME HOW YOU FELT BY
WHAT YOU SAW?
>> WATCHING THE DOCUMENTARY.
I WAS DISGUSTED.
I MEAN GROWING UP I HEARD THE
ALLEGATIONS, BUT I WASN'T
NECESSARILY PRIVY TO HOW
HORRIBLE THESE THINGS WERE.
BUT SEEING R KELLY, ALLEGEDLY,
BEING INVOLVED WITH GIRLS AS
4@YOUNG AS 12 YEARS OLD, SCHOOL
AGE, HIGH SCHOOL AGE GIRLS, AND
MANIPULATING THEM, SELLING THEM
A DREAM, SAYING I CAN GET YOU
FAMOUS, I CAN MAKE YOU A
SINGER.
SINGER.
SINGER. AND COMPLETELY TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF THEM, IT'S DISGUSTING.
>> TAKING ADVANTAGE MEANING
HE'S A SEXUAL PREDATOR.
HE ABUSED THESE CHILDREN.
>> YES, HE ALLEGEDLY ABUSED
THESE CHILDREN.
THESE CHILDREN. >> WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT
THIS FOR YEARS.
THERE WERE CHARGES.
HE WAS ACQUITTED.
TELL ME ABOUT THE HISTORY
THERE.
THERE.
THERE. >>
THERE. >> I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE
CHARGES, WE CAN GO BACK AND SAY
THE CHARGES WERE COMING AROUND
4@AROUND THE HEIGHT OF R KELLY'
CAREER.
CAREER.
CAREER. 4@THE PEAK OF HIS CAREER, THAT
WAS WHEN HE HAD A LOT OF HITS.
MULTIPLATINUM HITS AT THAT.
HE WRAPPED UP AN ALBUM WITH JZ.
HE DID CERTAIN THINGS.
AND HIS CAREER SEEMED TO BE
GOING THE RIGHT WAY. 4@
SO WHEN THAT CAME OUT, IT
DIDN'T SURPRISE A LOT OF
PEOPLE, IF YOU GO BACK TEN
YEARS FROM THAT, HE WAS MARRIED
TO A 15-YEAR-OLD ALEAH.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE
THINGS FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.
IT'S NOT AS SURPRISING BUT
DISHEARTENING TO SAY THE MOST.
>> WE'RE NOW INTO THE MeToo
ERA.
ERA.
ERA. THERE'S NO WAY HE'D GET AWAY
WITH THIS NOW.
BUT HOW IS IT THAT HE WAS ABLE
TO GET AWAY WITH IT BACK THEN?
>> YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK4@, I
THINK IT'S BECAUSE HE WAS SEEN
AS THIS PUBLIC FIGURE.
HE WAS SEEN AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS
AN AMAZING TALENT.
AND THAT CARRIED A LOT OF
WEIGHT BACK TO HI4@M.
HE HAD DIEHARD FANS.
AND WE LIVE IN AN ERA WHERE
4@
AND WE LIVE IN AN ERA WHERE PEOPLE ARE CLOUT CHASING AND
THEY MIGHT ACCUSE YOU OF
SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T DO TO GET
THEIR NAME OUT THERE OR 4@TO GE
AN OPPORTUNITY.
AN OPPORTUNITY. BECAUSE HE WAS BEING ACQUITTED
OR BECAUSE JUSTICE WASN'T
SERVING HIM RIGHT.
PEOPLE WERE LIKE OH, THESE
PEOPLE, THESE ALLEGATIONS
AREN'T REAL.
AREN'T REAL. THESE PEOPLE'S ALLEGATIONS
AREN'T REAL.
AREN'T REAL. >> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD
DEPEND UPON R KELLY FOR A
CHECK.
CHECK.
CHECK. HE
CHECK. HE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE 4@JOBS A
KEPT THEM EMPLOYED.
>> RIGHT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I @
REALLY DON'T EVEN -- R KELLY,
HE HAS A PROBLEM.
HE WENT THROUGH PROBLEMS AS A
CHILD WHEN HE WAS MOLESTED BY
HIS SISTER.
HIS SISTER. AND HAD A LOT OF CHILDHOOD
TRAUMA.
TRAUMA.
TRAUMA. SO I FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE
AROUND HIM ENABLED HIM.
THOSE 4@PEOPLE THAT WE SEE THAT
ARE IN THE DOCUMENTARY THAT ARE
BEING INTERVIEWED AND BEING
ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS THAT EVEN
HELPED HIM TO GO TO THE
MCDONALD'S BY THE HIGH SCHOOL
TO, YOU KNOW, PICK I THE GIRLS
THAT WERE AT HIS TRIAL.
TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HE
WAS DOING.
WAS DOING. THEY ENABLED HIM.
AND SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE AS
WELL.
WELL.
WELL. >>
WELL. >> WHY DOES THE 4@BLACK COMMUNI
CONTINUE TO COVER HIM AND MAKE
EXCUSES FOR HIM AT THE EXPENSE
OF BLACK WOMEN?
>> WE'RE NOT MAKING EXCUSES 4@
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. WE
HERE. WE ARE COVERING HIM.4@
BECAUSE WE THINK WE NEED TO
SHINE SOME LIGHT ON THIS AGAIN @
AND AGAIN UNTIL SOMETHING IS
DONE ABOUT IT.
TALK ABOUT THE INFLUENCE OF R
KELLY, 4@THE 4@MUSICIAN.
HE WASN'T JUST A FLY BY NIGHT.
THIS WAS A BIG GUY.
A BIG INFLUENCE.
>> HE WAS 4@A MUSICAL ICON.
IT LEGITIMATELY PAINS ME THAT I
CAN'T LISTEN TO CERTAIN SONGS
THE SAME WAY I LISTENED TO THEM
BEFORE.
BEFORE.
BEFORE. IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE 4@THINGS
WHERE WE OFTEN SAY, YOU CAN'T
SEPARATE TALENT FROM THE
PERSON.
PERSON.
PERSON. OR YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE THE
MUSICAL TALENT FROM THE PERSON,
IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION,
THAT LINE GETS BLURRED.
BECAUSE THIS IS A PERSON THAT'S
BEING BROUGHT UP ON A LOT 4@OF
VERY SERIOUS CHARGES.
>> SOMEBODY POINTED OUT IN THE
NEWS ROOM, SOME OF HIS 4@
ACTIVITIES, SOME OF WHAT HE WAS
ABOUT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE
LYRICS THERE.
LYRICS THERE. WE JUST MISSED THEM.
OR JUST PRETENDED THEY WEREN'T
THERE.
THERE.
THERE. >>
THERE. >> THE4@Y SAY A LOT OF HIS LYRI
WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THESE
THINGS HE WAS JUST COVERING
THEM UP.
THEM UP.
THEM UP. BUT HE WAS KIND OF HIDING IN
PLAIN SIGHT WITH THE NASTY
BEHAVIOR HE WAS EXHIBITING.
HIS 4@SALES HAVE GONE UP SINCE
THIS DOCUMENTARY HAS BEEN
RELEASED UNFORTUNATELY.
RELEASED UNFORTUNATELY. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOW
LISTENING TO THE MUSIC CLOSER
TRYING TO CATCH THE RED FLAGS
THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY
MISSED.
MISSED.
MISSED. IT'S REALLY DISGUSTING4@ ALL TH
WAY AROUND WHEN YOU DISSECT IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATION IN THE BREAK, ON
FACEBOOK, SO DON'T GO ANY
WHERE, WE'RE GOING