Hello friends! Before this video begins, I would like to mention that yesterday I released another
video called "How to Radicalize a VTuber", within which I discussed how an entire community had
blamed the transgender community for causing Pikamee to quit because she received backlash
for playing Hogwarts Legacy and I think it's my favorite video I've ever made and also is
generally, I think, really entertaining. So if you could go check it out and show some support
in that video, that would mean a lot. Giving it a glance and showing your support really would
help me and it would mean that video does better which is all I want for that video. I'm really
proud of it. With that being said, let's get you back to your regularly scheduled program.
Have you ever heard of the game Seven Nights at Frederick's? The
fan favorite game starring such iconic characters as Bendy, Huggy Wuggy and-
idk this is just f***in Freddy Fazbear innit.
A game so iconic and so successful that it's inspired a plethora of
fan games and other games in the same vein from good games to...
Garten of Banban...
and it's such a successful IP that, to this day, they're still making games based on it. Throughout
my time on the internet, I don't think I can think of one other game that has had the colossal
impact Five Nights at Freddy's had when it first released. The way that game took social media by
storm and took control of the internet zeitgeist was mind-blowing back then and the ripples it
made can still be seen in modern day games. That's why channels talking about Five Nights
at Freddy's and other games based on Five Nights at Freddy's like theft king's are so successful.
I also wanted to quickly mention that theft king follows me on Twitter.
He probably won't after he sees this video though.
With some of his videos reaching millions and millions of views talking solely about fan games,
you would think theft king is going to be a very well established channel for a long time and not
really the face of much controversy, or you would think if YouTube didn't plaster your homepage with
videos about theft king every single day, but I digress. It really isn't theft king's videos
that cause any problems though, he makes Five Nights at Freddy's videos, how controversial
could you really get? It mostly surrounds theft king's presence outside of his channel,
when he's engaging with anyone that isn't just his audience. And when that becomes the case,
s*** hits the fan quickly. But just for a forewarning, this situation starts a
little confusing, so I'm gonna do my best to explain it to you and make it make sense.
If you don't know, there is an initiative created by Scott Cawthon to make fan FNAF games into
officially released products with his support. This was called the Fanverse Initiative. For
quite a while, the Fanverse Initiative avoided any kind of controversy. That was until June of 2022,
when in information published online proved that a Discord server known as "The Pear" was leaking
private information about fan games before they had actually released. Understandably, this was
a very messy situation. Unsurprisingly, everyone in the community started to panic, worried that
this Fanverse Initiative was going to get scrapped entirely because of this controversy, leading to
a tweet posted by POPGOES (Kane Carter), one of the developers of one of these fan games,
saying that he didn't believe the fanverse project was going to be canceled, but that it was possible
that Scott Cawthon might stop adding games from new developers to the Fanverse Initiative to avoid
a situation like this occurring again. This would then inspire a video by theft king that struck
the wrong chord with pretty much everybody who saw it, a video titled "The END of the Fazbear
Fanverse Initiative" with the thumbnail saying "Goodbye Fanverse", and a description saying
that the Fanverse Initiative was probably done for. Within this video, theft king brings up
POPGOES's original tweet and so it's pretty clear theft king knew that he was click betting people
with this video and some people took issue with that, leading to POPGOES producing a tweet saying
"For people concerned about the Fanverse being 'dead'...Don't be. It's as 'dead' as it was when
it was announced. The original Fanverse devs are more than capable of providing many years worth
of great content." This thread would then slowly lead into talking about theft king, with POPGOES
bringing attention to the fact theft king had just a few days ago done a live stream playing
POPGOES's game, one of the fanverse games, and promoting it, with POPGOES arguing that a video is
saying "THE END OF THE FANVERSE" instantly makes it seem like POPGOES's work has been a waste or an
example of a failed product, which doesn't reflect well on the Fanverse's image. To no surprise,
theft king didn't really like this and immediately went to POPGOES's Discord DMs to say that he was
being harassed. He would argue that POPGOES's tweet came across as if you're "with us or against
us" with him arguing that I support your games and projects and when I criticize the impacts
of the Fanverse, I'm not criticizing you. He would go in to say that none of the criticisms
had anything to do with POPGOES, which is why he was surprised that POPGOES reacted the way he did,
and that he thinks POPGOES was taking this personally when it was never meant to be that way.
He would then go on to argue that his video wasn't
clickbaiting because the video was...received well?
I don't really know how that works?
And then he claims that a lot of the hate sent his way were from people directly
traceable to POPGOES's community, with him ending his sentence saying "I'm not
your enemy. I'm not your friend either. I like your games and I'm excited for them.
I will continue to make videos covering the topics I think are interesting."
In response, POPGOES would explain what his issue with theft king was, saying "The
content of your video was fine. I never made a comment on what you said in the video itself,
and in my own 'community' I actually complimented how it was laid out and how you used my comments
from the stream. I thought it was a clever idea. My only gripe was with the title and thumbnail,
which gives an awful, unfair impression of the Fanverse. Anyone who sees that message,
from a channel with as much credit as yours, would assume that some kind of news was broken
about the Fanverse itself and how it has come to an 'END'. My tweet also wasn't just for
you or your video - it was for the dozens of people who seemed disappointed, or betrayed,
by what I said in an earlier tweet. I'm sure you can tell by this point that I am
desperate to maintain the Fanverse's image. I'm a voluntary 'spokesperson' for the initiative,
and I feel I have a responsibility, as the most active member, to clear up misinformation and
keep the community happy, excited, and satisfied. You clearly don't feel this
responsibility. Even though you feel you've only mirrored information I've told you,
do you really think I would sum up my experience as 'THE END OF THE FAZBEAR FANVERSE' in any
circumstance ever? I apologize for any harassment you may have received from my community. That is
not something I have ever allowed. Tell me who is involved with that, and I will cast them out of my
circles. Simple as that. Otherwise, to be as blunt as possible...Just get on with what you're doing."
To nobody's surprise, once again, theft king never responded to this message.
But in spite of that, this situation doesn't end here. POPGOES would later make a tweet talking
about how seemingly every FNAF YouTuber in the world has been making a ton of negative videos
about the fanverse, using exaggerated statements like "THE FANVERSE IS A FAILURE! SCOTT HAS FAILED
US! THE INITIATIVE IS DOOMED!" to emphasize his point. He would also clarify in his comments which
video he saw that caused him to post this tweet, and it wasn't related to theft king at all. So
like any well-adjusted 30 year old, you'd expect theft king to just completely ignore this...but
theft king isn't like any well-adjusted 30 year old. He's really immature. And so he started
stirring some shit by quote retweeting POPGOES and saying "These videos are postmortems on AN
INITIATIVE. A program; an idea. Reflecting on the Fanverse and some of its issues ISN'T AN
ATTACK on POPGOES or any other Fanverse dev. I worry POPGOES takes this stuff too personally.
Fanverse Observations AREN'T critiques of POPGOES" and I mean, you can see by how many quote retweets
this tweet has, but it wasn't taken very well. After theft king's tweet got him in hot water
and people started clowning him again, he would then once again DM POPGOES saying he was being
harassed by his fans again. He would start his dm with "Hi POPGOES. I'm receiving a tremendous
amount of hate, harassment, and threats. I assume your recent tweet was triggered in response to
Sheeprampage's new video - I don't think you would randomly tweet that about ME weeks after my video
on the same subject came out. I'm gonna be honest - I've been deliberately avoiding making a video
that I know my audience would be super interested in. One regarding your recent statements lamenting
POPGOES's sales, as well as statements lamenting the lack of support from Scott himself. I'm sure
you could understand why people would be curious to watch such a video. I haven't made this video
because I didn't want to deal with your community freaking out about me again. Unfortunately,
your tweets made that happen regardless, which sucks, and I think that's super
unfair. I of course know full-well that one is not in total control of their audience,
but you have done nothing to stop this or even correct the many people who don't even know that
your tweet was at least prompted by Sheeprampage's video, not one of mine." This really isn't a great
message to send to someone who you have an issue with. Especially after they previously tried to
resolve your issue for you by asking who the people harassing him were so that they could
take action and remove them from their community, and theft king just ignored the message. And I
don't really think it's fair to say POPGOES is responsible for the actions of their audience,
nor to argue that they could actually do anything to stop this kind of harassment, especially when
they offered to do so previously and you ignored their message. I'd say in this situation, they
are no more response possible for posting their initial tweet than you are for quote retweeting
it and turning the public against you. And just a word of advice, when you're trying to get help
from someone, you really want to get off of your high horse. Midway through your message saying
"oh, I've been avoiding making a video about you, even though I know my audience would love it,
which would look really bad for you" just makes you seem pretentious and doesn't give any kind
of good impression to the person you're talking to. Theft's statement would continue to say that
POPGOES is starting to piss off a ton of other content creators as well by quote, "attacking
anyone who dares to talk about something that could portray the Fanverse in a negative light",
getting cocky and saying "it's probably wise to have a better relationship with your own press"
and continuing to say that he's asking POPGOES to put a stop to this now saying "if you continue to
attack other creators on Twitter where most of us don't have super large followings,
they're gonna retaliate on their own platforms, and I absolutely do not want anything to ever get
close to there. For everyone's sake, please make a tweet asking people to leave creators alone. This
isn't necessary." Theft king would then go on to make a video about this situation in a poetically
stupid move that completely contradicts his statement where he says that he "doesn't
ever want anything to get close to causing people to retaliate on their own platforms."
I don't know why you would contradict yourself like this, but go off king?
And he would go on to record a live stream where he would lie and say POPGOES was
ignoring his DMs. Theft king is the kind of person so desperate to fuel his own ego,
so desperate to become the victim in any situation, that he will just lie on his
public platform to win an argument, and ultimately that led to an embarrassing climax to this stream.
[theft king] "So at this point, I had messaged him two weeks prior, after he asked me to, and
he didn't say anything. Now, yes, I see the check mark is not read, but that doesn't mean anything.
You can see you have a pending notification. Awww thank you so much Nice Demon Queen. You can see
you have a pending notification in your messages and just not ever open it, so I- you know...yeah.
I know he hadn't read it, but I didn't know that he hadn't- he didn't know of it. I mean,
I assumed, hey Kane asked, yeah- he asked me! I- he asked me to do it. And so like,
of course like why? Of course I'm gonna reach out! He told me yeah, reach out to me"
[Harley] At this point in the story, POPGOES makes a public response,
saying "Why are you pretending to cry on stream? We cleared this up 3 months ago." showing DMs
between him and theft king where he would say that he doesn't respond to Twitter DMs. This
issue theft king is now pretending to be sad about on stream isn't an issue at all and he
is completely cutting it out of context to spin a narrative for his audience. This then led to
POPGOES making a donation on stream and theft king's reaction really says everything here.
[theft king donation alert] "Hey man, keep your
chin up! You should check out the latest tweet by @LostPOPGOES - it's important!"
[theft king] "Are you kidding me dude? Are you kidding? Do you really think this
is the f***ing venue for this? I DMed you, I'm begging you to f***ing speak
to me. I've been begging you! And you've just ignoring me! I didn't do anything!
I've been ignoring you! And now you come- in private I'm trying to resolve this in
private and then you come in my f***ing live stream and do a donation- are you serious?"
[Harley] The sheer stupidity it must take to say "I am trying to resolve this privately" while on
a live stream talking about this situation is mind-boggling to me! I don't get it!
[theft king] "Are you kidding me dude? Do you know how unfair a position that is to put me in?
Are you-
wow dude.
woooow
wow
woooooow
wow dude.
Okay now- yeah now you're gonna- now you wanna talk to me? You know what yes because I'm so
f***ing desperate for this to be over. I'm so f***ing desperate for you to stop weaponizing
your audience against me over a video that's f***ing Sheeprampage made, that I'm gonna end
this f***ing game and look at this message that you said because I'm that- even though
I don't want to because I think what you just did is f***ed up- I'm gonna do it anyway because
that's how f**ing desperate I am, in the hopes that maybe this can be finally f***ing over."
[Harley] I love this moment of realization that he's been caught in a lie by POPGOES,
knows that if he brings it up on stream people will raise issue with the fact he's
been lying to them, and so he just ends the stream to avoid discussing it live. Oh yeah,
and he would also go on to wish that POPGOES burned in hell.
I'm not even joking.
[theft king] "I- I think King Carter is a vindictive, evil person.
Um...you know I'm not religious but like...if there was a hell, Kane Carter will burn for
eternity. Like that's straight up the kind of person I think he is. He's vindictive, and likes
to see people suffer, that's what his actions have proven. His actions alone have proven that."
[Harley] But unfortunately for theft king ,this isn't the only drama he's found himself in,
as in February of 2023 theft king found himself getting devoured with a thousand plus quote
retweets following his discussion of LadyFizzi, an artist for the Five Nights at Freddy's team,
being removed from her job for allegations surrounding her s***al interest in children.
I'm not gonna go too deep into that because I really don't want to if I'm completely honest
with you. I've been trying to avoid those subjects on the channel for a while now because they simply
aren't fun to talk about, but regardless, this drama found theft king being talked about by
channels again. This would lead to a group chat being created by some of these content
creators who talked about theft king and, would inevitably lead to theft king lying about all
of them. Though, this situation would actually start by theft king being wronged by somebody,
this initial flame sparking because theft king copyright striked a video re-uploading his content
and the person he striked down then published his private email. Genuinely, I think it's f***ed that
they did this to him. I think attempting to dox someone is wrong in any scenario and I
don't think there's any justifying it so...that person should go f*** themselves. The problem
is that then theft king tries to capitalize upon this to make himself a bigger victim,
in turn lying about a ton of other creators. In theft king's video talking about how he was
doxed by this person with them publicizing his private email and stealing his content,
he would argue that pretty much every creator in this group chat was involved in some way and
as such responsible to some extent, blasting them on his massive platform with no justified reason.
[theft king reading] "Should I send this to his personal
email for trolls?" "Absolutely. Could scare him."
[theft king] "They're trying to scare me. They're trying to intimidate me. Afterwards,
I went out to grab some dinner, but when I got back, I found that my Discord had
blown up. Several of my Discord moderators had messaged me indicating that there was something
really important they needed to talk to me about. Apparently, a private Discord
group including some FNAF content creators had obtained my private email address."
[theft king reading] "Wanna hear something interesting?" "sure" "shoot" "I posted a
video the other day on my second channel of 'Footage I stole from Theft King'. It
was his Atrium Footage I got from Koda. The thing is, Theft struck the video down,
blocked me on twitter, and made a tweet about properly using his footage. The big detail is,
if your video gets stricken down, you get the personal email of who Struck
you down. So there's a chance I have Theft King's Personal Email Address"
[theft king] *evil laugh*
[theft king reading] "Also. He abusing the system now?"
[theft king] "Excuse me? Abusing the system? The video was literally titled 'Footage I stole from
Theft King'. It was completely unaltered. Under_Score was the one abusing the system
by uploading my content and saying it was other people's to use for free. I used the
DMCA system as intended. There's no abuse here. The fact that this person accused me
of 'abusing YouTube's copyright system' for taking down a stolen video is just all the
proof you need that these people are looking for any excuse to try to make me look bad,
even if it's not true or not based in reality whatsoever. They're all full of s***."
[Harley] Playing the victim this way, saying everyone in this group are full of s*** and
they're all trying to lie about him and attack him, is a very disingenuous way of playing the
victim, tries to make everyone else in this group chat guilty by association because one
person and a few people responding to them were involved in this doxing, and blatantly
mischaracterized and misrepresented some of these people. This led to some of the content creators
within this chat releasing responses saying that some of what theft king said just wasn't true and
denouncing the doxing, but clearly that wasn't enough for him as theft king would then go on
to strike one of SleepLIVE, another creature in this chat's, videos even though this strike
was not valid. And that's not just my opinion that it wasn't valid, that's also theft king's,
as theft king would go on to tweet himself that he thinks the video was fair use.
This really doesn't look good for him.
But, almost as if theft king believed he hadn't done enough to f*** over SleepLIVE,
he made another tweet saying
"Since my video was released, I've received over 15 harassment emails,
two of which were covered in hate symbols. So someone in that group DID leak my email,
presumably as revenge. I'd guess it was SleepLIVE but I can't know for sure."
Just...straight up spreading claims without any evidence about people because he dislikes them.
Does this guy have no shame? Well, I already know the answer is no because then he goes on to make
two more tweets, saying "In the last day, I've received 17 new harassment emails, two of which,
as expected, included hate symbols. This morning I received one with a photograph of my neighborhood
alongside a threat to kill me. And here's the most messed up part, I believe those emails were sent
by Under_Score, SleepLIVE, etc." Without any shame in the world, he continues to go on to
make false claims against people like SleepLIVE and other people in the chat as insinuated by the
etc. without any care in the world for whether he's actually telling the truth. I know he's
desperate to play the victim here, but this is just embarrassing. And honestly, I think after
discussing such a reckless misuse of his platform, I'm kind of just done talking about this. If
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