RINA OF "THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL."
WATCH OUT YOU DON'T GET HIT IN
THE HEAD THERE NOW.
>> MR. PRESIDENT, IN YOUR VIEW,
DOES PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY NEED TO
CEDE ANY UKRAINIAN TERRITORY IN
ORDER TO GAIN A CEASE-FIRE WITH
RUSSIA, OR IS THAT COMPLETELY
OFF THE TABLE?
ALSO, DO YOU THINK THAT RUSSIA
NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE
G-20?
>> ON THE LATTER POINT, BY
ANSWER IS YES.
THAT DEPENDS ON THE G-20.
THAT WAS RAISED TODAY.
I RAISED THE POSSIBILITY IF THAT
CANNOT BE DONE, IF INDONESIA AND
OTHERS DON'T AGREE, WE SHOULD IN
MY VIEW ASK TO HAVE BOTH UKRAINE
BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS
AS WELL AS BASICALLY UKRAINE
BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE G-20
MEETINGS AS AN OBSERVER.
WITH REGARD TO -- WHAT WAS THE
FIRST QUESTION?
>> DO YOU THINK UKRAINE HAS TO
CEDE TERRITORY TO --
>> THAT IS A TOTAL JUDGMENT
BASED ON UKRAINE.
NOTHING ABOUT UKRAINE, WITHOUT
UKRAINE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
THAT, BUT THAT'S A JUDGMENT.
THERE'S NEGOTIATIONS,
DISCUSSIONS, I SHOULD SAY, THAT
HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT I HAVE NOT