what is the relationship between psychedelics and enlightenment and
awakening
now this video is a semi-response to actualize.org first of all genius channel i've learned a lot
tons out of that channel Leo Gura original super original but there are some confusions
about what he said about psychedelics and awakening enlightenment that if i don't clarify
it might lead some people down to the wrong rabbit hole it could be dangerous
so when i tried 5meo DMT (God Molecule) three years ago that was the last time i tried it
i had a breakthrough of Absolute Infinity slash Emptiness slash _______ you can't describe it
three years later that state is right here right now when i perceive the world it's a
360 degrees boundless infinite hologram perceiving itself through One Sense Door there's not even a
sense door "God's 0 Sense Door" and every single sensation both inside and outside
there's no inside outside syncs up to (and is aware of) itself and it's been like that it's
locked in for three months now nothing has changed nothing this is a state that isn't affected by any
alterted states of consciousness because altered states of consciousness are the content within
this empty context and when every speck of solidity is dissolved
into infinity you can't get any more infinite than infinite how many times do i have to tell you this
you can't get any more empty than empty or full okay like there's absolutely no
distinction zero distance or delay between mind, body, sensations, world, awareness,
consciousness, Source, time, space whatever you want to call it everything is just One
everything is vibrating together if i have to give you a metaphor for the state you'll
be like god DJing in itself it's almost like you're playing you're on a stage and you're um
you're DJing right and everybody in the crowd was singing to your music right
and that's how i feel like with every single sensation in the whole world the whole universe
everything is absolutely in harmony it's so beautiful it's so profound that
it almost made my 5 meo DMT trip pale in comparison i was reading a
post by leo gura when i said that enlightenment is the present moment and that is a switch
he disagreed he said that enlightenment is not some on and off switch but it is it is a switch
it is a switch but it's not a switch there are shifts that are gradual but then after
you hit a certain path boom there's really is on and off switch and then you are perpetuated
to the next dimension and on and on until finally BOOM so it's both a gradual process
and sudden process and like i said before the difference between being 99.9
awaken and be fully awake is quantum that's why you see all this enlightened masters almost every
one of them will tell you their enlightenment story now here's an analogy that i'm going to use
to put things in perspective. An orgasm see before an orgasm you're gonna have physiological buildups
gradual very gradual then boom you come you'll be crazy to think that you have a half orgasm
okay you either come you don't come
but that's not the perfect analogy because an
orgasm is the peak experience again enlightenment is not an experience
it's more like the sun
once you get out of the cave and see the sun it's always there you can do [ __ ] up
[ __ ] under the sun you can take psychedelics under the sun but the sun is still there shining
and when the field is awake because every corner is connected throughout the whole universe
when one corner is awake the whole field is awake the whole field lights up.
A person who hasn't attained an orgasm can never talk about or imagine or feel
what an orgasm is like so if you're not 100 even at 98, anything that you want
to say imagine about enlightenment are speculations and theories and hearsays.
one of the indicators that you're there already is that you stop searching Buddha said what's
done is done if you still think there's more to go there's higher states of consciousness
than the infinity of the present moment then most likely you're not there yet
okay that doesn't mean that there's no more to go
but after that threshold any explorations any maturation and developments are within the
context of infinity, i'm going on under retreat 10-day retreat in a week this time with no goal
no expectation complete blank slate so excited but a little scared too
you can still explore powers, other realms, sitis,
psychic abilities more concentrations become more compassionate
because enlightenment is not some never-ending goal on the awakening axis there is an end point!
Another thing that people misunderstand about enlightenment is that it has very little to
do with mindfulness now this is a little off topic but i'm just going to stick it in there.
Mindfulness implies that there's a person here trying to be mindful of the world out there
but first of all there is no mind to be mindful of second of all there is no observer there's no
separate observer watcher or perceiver in here that's trying to perceive the
world out there there's no difference between inside and outside for the infinite-th time
that's why i said the present moment pre-awakening and post-awakening are vastly different
before awakening it's a person in here trying to be present
of the moment now but even time doesn't exist lol
Post awakening it's God being present of itself presence
being present of itself is never not be present and was never not present okay and it's
present from nowhere and everywhere so you can't locate it you can't find a spot here and be like
i'm going to be mindful in my head there's no observer there's no watcher there was never a
watcher that was over yeah there's nothing there's no the center. The Witness is the same as the ego
is the same as the self it's the same as the observer it's just some solidified sensations
in your head due to conditioning you name it oh this is the self either with a small s or
a capital s or this is the observer this is the witness although just solidify sensations okay
and those solidified sensations are the dirt on your lens and perception
including the lense of perception that's keeping you from seeing the full thing
so if you take psychedelics when your lens of perception is still not cleansed through
thousands of hours of meditation then you're still gonna have a trip
have a glimpse through the dirt on the lens of perception
yeah well i don't even know what to say anymore i think that's it what else am i gonna say oh yes
Daniel Ingram said in the video that he's seen so many people tripping he's seeing his friends
tripping a lot and meditate a lot and throughout looking at thousands of cases no one has ever
gotten enlightened at least not the full thing through psychedelics maybe not even Stream Entry
the first level of awakening which is only like one percent of the full thing people cross the
horizon of Arising and Passing away phase which is the spiritual highs and a lot of them think
they're already there but then they fall back into the Dark Night Of The Soul and over and over
cycle after cycle cycle and that's the kind of people that keeps going back to psychedelic trips
because when they have an arising and passing away event they have a spiritual high and of
course psychedelics fades enlightenment doesn't face psychedelic fates when psychedelic fade
they fall into Dark Night sometimes and then they have to do more psychedelics to push themselves up
without realizing that the content and the context are even though ultimately they're the same
relatively if you're not there yet they're not the same meaning that you could easily get confused
by the content thinking that is the context imagine that you're watching one of those
infinite zoom videos on youtube the motion the looping motion
is going to be the same no matter what visuals you're throwing on there no matter
what kind of mathematical equations you try to interpret it with, that's just more content the
looping zooming motion stays the same see even that is not the 100 correct analogy you know
why because it's not even an experience enlightenment it's not even an experience
it's the Source that experiences arise through and from and as! Because when a sensation arises it
simultaneously vanishes so everything is like like a loop and the starting point of a sensation is
the same non-space in time as the end so nothing is happening but everything's
happening it's so crazy bro and impermanence at the deepest level is non-arising and non-passing
Enlightenment is right here and if you ask somebody if they're enlightened and you
have to think about it most likely not that yet because it's the most obvious thing in the world
anything that you can access through psychedelics you can lock it and access through meditation and
difference is you can perceive it 24 7. you can live it it's going to be living embodied
experience and Daniel Ingram also confirmed that he said when he was doing his fire kasina retreat
he was finding himself in this DMT realm or this ayahuasca realm that he couldn't even get out of!
i'm not putting down psychedelics i'm not saying you should do one or the other i'm just saying
from my own personal experience and from the statistics that other people have collected
psychedelics doesn't lock in the glimpses into permanent shifts and like i said before
if you can't lock it in and perceive infinity right here right now 24 7 what's the point?
the reason why that is is because when you meditate i've meditated for about 5 000 to
7 000 hours of my lifetime i don't even consider that long at all psychedelic trips are so short
that it doesn't change if you want to look at it neurologically and say that this is a brain state
let's just go to the scientific route for a moment for you materialists um yeah it doesn't change it
doesn't operate on the deeper and the deepest regions and layers and roots of your neurons
at the end of 3rd Path i thought i was done but then boom that .0 percent, I couldn't fathom
or imagine what this would be like and even if you take psychedelics when you're at 99 percent
you're not going to get a glimpse of the full thing because you're gonna have an
experience of enlightenment at 99 percent on psychedelics that's a different order than
locking enlightenment and abiding in it permanently through the natural mind okay
that's not even go to the people who are only maybe 1 percent or not even that, not even Stream
Entry taking psychedelics and had a glimpse of god consciousness you can't glimpse enlightenment
because once you glimpse IT you're enlightened! Because enlightenment is not an experience
that comes and goes that's why Jed Mckenna said you're either awake or you're not. Psychedelics
can be its own branch of development it's almost like shamanism if Leo Gura would just be clear
about the fact that he's now sort of like a psychonaut like a Terrance Mckenna type
whatever he's doing is perfectly fine but if you mix psychedelics with awakening even though
they're gonna be overlaps the two development the two fields of development could be quite different
it's very different towards the end at the beginning they overlap
they convert a lot you know they overlap more but at the end the two diverge even more.
Ekhart Tolle said that he tried LSD because all his students like oh is this (awakening) like LSD
and he totally wants to see what that's like he never took LSD so he took LSD he's like oh yeah
the world is kind of breathing there's some colors uh some visuals but then he said that he
didn't really do much and he said that he prefer his default moment-to-moment experience more
and i listened to a podcast with Sam Harris and Adyashanti
uh two days ago and Sam Harris is going on and off about his recent mushroom trip he's like i haven't
taken mushroom 25 years they blew my mind i wasn't even human and Adyashanti was just like no
comment on it and he said i also took psychedelics recently because all my students are like raving
about mushrooms and LSD and i wanted to see what it's like even though he's taking it before but he
hasn't taken it for like 50 years or something like that and he took mushroom five grams just
like Sam Harris and he said oh some body high but perceptually it didn't really do much
so that's interesting right anyway so psychedelics can be used to speed up awakening
but up to a certain point only once you cross that threshold
it's not going to be that much use as a matter of personal experience
and again it's dangerous to mix up the two fields of development
into just one thing because people are just going to be chasing their own tails.
Enlightenment is not just about altered states of consciousness it transcends all that it
translates to psychedelics it transcends scriptures even it transcends meditation.
psychedelics is also great for integration but that's only if you're pre-enlightened
because after enlightenment there's nothing to integrate
because the integration still presupposes separation
it still presupposes that there's a character here that wants to be integrated to the Absolute but
the Absolute and the relative are One. God and the human are one there's nothing to integrate
but at the same time there is after enlightenment the character might do certain things and make
certain changes in his life that seems like integration from the outside perspective but
from my perspective right now it doesn't feel like integration at all it just feels like everything
is happening by itself on its own through the Divine will which also includes the human will
So again psychedelics are great tools on the path either to awakening
even though again it won't lead to enlightenment or if your goal is just
to be you know be a more creative person if you want to do psychotherapy even um just you know
human dream or character goal okay that is great you want to be more creative it's great. But
whatever psychedelics can give you it's still an experience and still belongs to the dream world.
Now I think one of the reasons why psychedelics can lock glimpses into a permanent shift
is because psychedelics doesn't really give you cessation or Nibbana so Fruitions the fruit
of the meditator, fruitions only occur after hours and hours months and years of training
it's an accumulation of all the fruits of your meditation into one big Fruit okay so you go
through all the jhanas and boom! You disappear from the universe completely disappear and for
some reason that we don't know yet i would love to put my own brain in the fMRI and see what happens
during a cessation now again there are micro cessations there are macro cessations. Nowadays
when i sit down to meditate my last meditation session i had like 10 cessations and it was like
it felt like i got swallowed by God and spit it out oh my god i was like
holy [ __ ] Cessations for some reason resets and rewires the brain unlike any other states
i mean it is the highest stage of meditation right? and the reason why psychedelics doesn't
give you cessations again is because you don't have enough time to cultivate
to rewire your brain to get to the level where boom you can have a cessation after
the accumulation of all the labors and hard work you put into sitting there staring at the wall.