Liz: You may have noticed some fighting over Planned Parenthood recently.
Carly: Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking
Trump: I'm not supporting Planned Parenthood.
We just don’t want an organization engaged in the activities that these videos show Planned Parenthood was engaged in
But really, it’s not about Planned Parenthood, it’s about a bigger crusade.
Do you want to see Roe v. Wade overturned?
Carson: Ultimately, I would love to see it overturned.
But for those who want to cut off access to abortion, there’s one phrase that is thrown
around A LOT.
Abortion is murder. Abortion is murder.
Abortion is murder.
The very very large bulk of the religious population of America thinks that abortion
is murder.
I think if you had a womb with a window, it would never happen.
Liz: But can pro-lifers really call abortion murder?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America...
Liz: Here in Rochester, NY, a few hundred people have gathered at the Right to Life convention
and their views on abortion are pretty cut and dry.
...with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.
Liz: So, do you think abortion is murder?
Man: Yeah, I do. I think it is.
Liz: Is it like murder?
Woman: Well, any killing of a life is murder. That
is whether it’s in war, whether it’s an abortion, whether it’s… whatnot. So of course.
Girl: I think that abortion is murder, personally.
Liz: Should we ban abortion?
Woman: Should we… I would… Should we kill five-year-olds
who are just a pain in the neck? Should we kill teenagers when they, you know, won’t
clean up their room?
Liz: Do we pass a law? Do we make abortion illegal?
Man: I don’t know. I think abortion should be
illegal. Just because, I think, like, is it legal for me to just kill you right now? Of
course not. That’s crazy! I hope not too!
Liz: So deciding to have a baby is a simple decision?
Woman: It’s about as simple as my deciding not
to whip out my trusty pocket knife and go after you.
Liz: On the surface, these people believe that life starts at conception, and that abortion
is murder. But when we got beyond the rhetoric, the people we spoke to were loving, kind-hearted, and
sympathetic. And the way they view a woman who has an abortion is very different than
how they would view a woman who hires a hit on her own child.
Girl: I don’t necessarily think that people who are having abortions are murderers.
Man: I’m not gonna sit here and say we should throw all those people in jail. ‘Cause that’s
just impractical, right?
Woman: No pro-life person will ever say, ‘incriminate the woman.’
Liz: So, abortion is murder but women who get them aren’t murderers.... Not everyone believes
this is a reasonable leap in logic.
This is Wendy Davis. She made national news by holding an 11 hour filibuster to protect
abortion rights in Texas.
I’m not yielding for any questions at this point, thank you.
The senator does not yield. Just under the eleventh-hour mark.
The lieutenant governor has agreed that SB5 is dead. [cheering]
Liz: For Wendy, this issue hits close to home.
Wendy: I had an abortion. I faced a very difficult choice. In a pregnancy that was much-wanted,
post-20-weeks, when I discovered that my daughter was suffering from an irreparable and non-life-sustaining
brain deformation, or malformation. And it was one of the most heart wrenching decisions
I’ve ever had to make, and I made my decision out of love.
Liz: And although all of the people that I spoke to at the convention were against exceptions,
most pro-life Americans support them.
60% of Americans who identify as pro-life support legal abortions in at least some circumstances.
Pro-life advocates are quick to compare abortion to murder, but when forced to analyze the
consequences of their own position, they quickly jump from this…
Woman: If you consider killing murder, then I would say that abortion is murder.
Liz: …to this.
Liz: Would the woman who gets an abortion, then, be a murderer? Is she a murderer?
Woman: Um, I feel like that’s very harsh terms.
Liz: So should pro-lifers really be equating abortion to murder? Wendy says no.
Wendy: The idea that a politician would step into that decision for me and displace my ability
to do out of love what I knew was right for a daughter that I wanted very much is not
only insulting. It’s disgusting.
Liz: Do you think abortion is a moral issue?
Wendy: I think abortion is a personal issue.
Liz: The phrase, 'abortion is murder,' is used to ignite political support. But it’s inconsistent
with pro-life supporters’ actual views. Abortion isn’t murder. They’re two different things.