Believe me when I tell you because this is something I think is really
misunderstood by the guys who fall into that category and actually really have a
bad time when they come here getting dates in Ukraine is not an issue because
there are so many scammers so many scammers who go onto dating sites who go
onto tinder who are loitering a lot of these marriage agencies they are
scammers and they're gonna go on a date with you because they want your money
Привет из Одессы Мама! Welcome to another episode of the vodka vodcast
with me Conor Clyne from Odessa we are very close to the Black Sea it's right
over there 100 meters but the wind was really bad so I'm just gonna shoot it right
here just on the the you can actually see the funicular actually just behind
this old Soviet funicular here and that leads from Fransuski Boulevard down to
the seaside in Odessa so when you come here as a westerner to Ukraine to
Odessa in particular are you going to be cool are the local ladies in
particularly are they gonna think that you are the bomb when
you come here are you attractive to them or are they actually to think that
you're really uncool and not wanna have anything to do with you now the genesis
for this video is Ukraine and Ukrainian women are branded so heavily by these
matchmaking dating agencies marriage agency sites and they would let you lead you to
believe that by coming from the West so Western Europe North America in
particular you arrive in Ukraine that basically there's gonna be just millions
of Ukrainian women willing to drop everything throw themselves at you as a
white knight and hop on a plane back home as your wife because you were just
such in demand here because you're so cool and so sought after and then and I
also see comments actually under my videos actually from guys have been here
and had a really bad experience and found out that they actually weren't treated
like they were so cool they were not so attractive or so desired by the women and
basically they got relieved of a lot of money in their wallet and they write
completely the opposite and they're pretty negative about their experience and then
sometimes I actually see comments from guys obviously don't seem to have
ever visited here and they say stupid things like yeah it's so easy if you go
to Ukraine all the desperate oppressed Ukrainian girls will just throw
themselves at you for like the price of a sandwich actually saw that once
written by a Dane and you know so what's the reality and actually I had met a guy
Mark when I was traveling here and he helped me out with a few things and
fortunately two summers ago he's badly beaten up here in Ukraine so we
discussed a lot about the situation how foreigners are treated here and he actually
spent a good bit of time traveling in the region and he said it and it was not
a region for him and in particular here he was not treated very well so
let's get into today's vodcast about whether you are gonna be cool here in Ukraine
are not so I think when I talk to people who've never traveled to Ukraine
that is a big misconception about like how novel foreigners here this is not
the 1990s it's not like the country just opened up and everything was in squalor
and disarray as Soviet Union had imploded and there was desperate poverty there's
still poverty in Ukraine of course relative to Western Europe but
it's not the nineties where there are no Westerners the Westerners are kind of
like seen in godlike status like there's a kind of expression White God
phenomenon where if you show up as the one foreigner actually see sometimes
comments about losers back home that just because someone comes from say the
West and they might have been insignificant not very cool when they were
back in I don't know somewhere I always pick on the Midwest and the US don't
know why but somewhere that's not particularly seen as cool may be
overall in the world or it may be in the US or if it happens to be in Ireland
maybe different somewhere a little bit obscure the UK and then they come here
and because they're foreigners speak English and then suddenly they become
very interesting automatically like jump up in coolness and it's not the 1990s
there are a lot of Westerners first of all there are a lot of foreigners in Ukraine
there are a lot of Israelis a lot of Turks a lot of Arabs a lot of well not so
many Indians or Chinese a little bit coming students for sure and then you
have a lot of Americans a lot of Western Europeans especially during the summer
especially here in Odessa it's just like overrun basically and even in the last
year I have seen a lot of female Western backpackers or women they seem to be
working so maybe with international development in Kiev in particular not so
much in Odessa you see a few but not so much so it's that mainstream to
be a Westerner so you are not special if you come to the big city like Kiev or
Odessa or Lviv in the West of Ukraine which is a
huge tourist mecca for the country as well and you are not special
you are not unusual that's the first thing to point out if you come here as a
foreigner so don't expect me to be like wow you are foreign if you come here
just for being British or American or Australian there are lots of you and
they're especially lots of you in the summer in this city hunting women so
don't think the local girls are going to be impressed because you're a foreigner now
the second thing is that Ukrainians are not unlike in 1990s trapped here
whatever they have visa free to Schengen so that means most of the
European Union and they can just travel to for six months out of 12 and they allow
them now go to study there so basically they've travelled a good bit around they've
met lots of foreigners before they're not isolated here they're not here stuck
dreaming of you know the green hills far away and that golden city on the hill
and that is the West they've actually been there seen it and realized yeah it's
cool maybe but it's not amazing or it's not you know utopia either and there are
a lot of foreigners there are a lot of people live in this country we're not so
cool at all so they've definitely not as naive or isolated as they were plus they
have a lot more other countries not just in the West they can go to visa-free they can
go to like the Middle East basically is a visa-free they get to go
to lots of obviously they're got Russia and the former Soviet Union basically but Sri
Lanka has become a big city a place for them go Thailand they can all travel
like Indonesia they can travel without a visa Brazil they can travel without a visa so they can
actually get around they are starting to do that more and more is actually either
because they go there themselves or because of Instagram or guys they meet who
come here they take them there invite them there and that's another thing they
also get every day if you're a pretty girl in a city like it Odessa you have
like scores of horny guys from all over the world writing you and let's be honest
most of them are not very creative not very impressed and definitely not very cool
so you know just because it's not the 1990s where there was really limited
like Internet hardly existed here and they didn't have any contact with with
Westerners so that's very easy today to have so the novelty factor also for them
because of their experience has changed quite a lot and a lot of their
experience is when they go to say Western Europe
are not what they expected they don't live up to him and that can also be I
hear a lot of Ukrainian girls actually complain about German guys especially if
they weren't interested really in Germany or German culture before they go
they complain about the guys in Germany in particular that they don't think I
mean they're just a very different mentality and they realize that just
because they come from a rich country that doesn't mean there aren't gonna be
cultural problems so they're a little bit disappointed by their experience and
then as a result of course more wary then of course you have the kind of like
Casanovas who came here earlier on I probably doesn't happen today so much
promising them everything and then turned out they didn't have pretty much
to offer especially in terms of better life so as a result they are skeptical
and Ukrainians by and large are skeptical in general so they're definitely not
going to be just down with the fact that you're a foreigner I think that that's
supercool automatically and then the final thing is while a lot of foreigners
not just those Casanovas came here and gave foreigners a bit of a bad reputation
now that affects this particular city like Odessa and definitely the capital you
Kiev and that is number one sex tourism is enormous here as I mentioned
the hordes of horny guys come here and very few of them are actually gonna meet
Ukrainian girls and actually have a normal relationship so what do they end up
doing they end up paying for it basically even quite often if that
wasn't their original intention when they came here they just get frustrated
because they don't ... find it hard with the girls that's a really common thing that
I see and even if they they're not the frustrated types they actually came here
with that purpose it's extremely common so as a result obviously sex tourists are
really considered super cool in general so that's another negative thing
connotation with foreigners in particular in the city of Odessa and the
last one is the shall we say wife hunter marriage agency victim I mean there was
a huge number of scams involving online dating marriage agencies here and
I have other videos about that I will link them up in the card down below in the
description otherwise I can talk for another two hours on that topic but
basically a lot of foreign guys and they're brought not just here to Odessa
it's not as common in Kiev I think or in the west of Ukraine but this was the
center of it and on top of that then they seem to bring a lot of them to
where is it to Nikolaev and to Kherson a lot you've a lot of these romance tours
I'm not saying they're all scams one of my clients did go on one and they didn't
scam him it just wasn't very successful for him but in general just that whole
scene it doesn't really make foreigners look cool let's be honest about it if they
have to come and have you know I don't know the social events set up for them
because they can't go to a normal night club and meet women they have to have a
setup like that where there's 300 of them there and then the 12 guys whatever
tried to talk to the hottest 30, 40, 50 women I guess you go to it and it's all
a little bit like they don't fit in a normal night club that's why they need
it again these types and a lot of unfortunately get scammed maybe not
necessarily by the agencies but by a lot of girls who who go and target them or
just online dating in general they just gives the reputation for a lot of
foreigners being naive and stupid and that Ukrainian women are so much better so
much more be more beautiful more attractive or more desirable than in the
West which is in part true agree with that but also because the marketing pushing
it so strongly that they have the traditional values I have another video on
that go check it out or yeah they're just so much more beautiful which as I
said is kind of true I have other videos and go check them out if you
haven't seen them but in the end that makes a lot of these guys appears very
desperate which again a lot of them are so again that's only reason why
foreigners are not automatically seen as the cool cats when they come here and
you're not gonna be seen as a big catch necessarily if you when you come here to
Ukraine so I've given you an overview and I made it sound like basically you
have no chance here in Ukraine at this stage which of course it's not the case
because I do live the tsar experience here and I'm a testament that you can
obviously be the cool guy when you come here or be attractive to Ukrainian women
and have a great time and also make a lot of friends with Ukrainians and Ukrainian
guys as well this is all possible when you come here now I've noticed with my
clients and with my friends in particular are just observing
what kind of guys actually are super cool when they come to Ukraine so
obviously if you're maybe I don't know let's just take an example and you're in
your mid-20s dress well you're good-looking in general you're athletic
and you actually have some you know personality and you're able to talk a
little bit even if you don't speak Russian then probably you're gonna be
cool enough for a lot of a lot of the girls here and you're probably not gonna
be seen as un-cool or labeled in a bad wave but that's actually in general just
a tiny percentage of you guys or the guys who come here in general so
you probably don't fall into that category if you watch this channel
looking at the analytics but definitely if you are presentable you have a
personality and you have traveled a good bit you're not naive and you know you maybe
belong to certain social group like if you happen to be a hipster or
you just dress in that style and then you go to hipster places yes then you
will be cool this is something I've seen with some of my clients who came when in
particular and my friend Rémy who was in some videos from earlier he really kind
of fits into that scene and as well he's super cool so there you go and he's
attractive to everybody whether happens to be guys and girls in that scene even
here in Odessa in Ukraine which is one of the toughest places I think to come as a
foreigner in all of Eastern Europe just ignore all that marketing you've
seen online it is actually pretty tough here the other thing that's really gonna
help and make you seem cool here is if you have a real purpose other than being
a tourist in Ukraine like you do business here real business and I guess
you can just make it up if you want to give yourself a backstory that's plausible and you
spend a lot of time here maybe you have invested you have a business or you have
something you do in general that provide some value to the society here and then
of course that's gonna make you it's gonna take you out of the sex tourist
category immediately and put you into another one and you actually make you
really cool and really attractive and of course if you speak Russian then that's
gonna be a complete game-changer not I mean it's not really going to help you if it's
very basic but once you're into intermediate Russian level and of course
makes you stand out compared to 99% of the Westerners who come here and
girls and guys in general can be interested about how you learnt Russian and
why you speak Russian and then you give the whole story I mean obviously I have
a legitimate reason to be here I have this YouTube channel it's all
about Eastern Europe and most of the videos about half the videos I would say
are actually here in Ukraine so I've a very good reason to be here and I speak
Russian on top of that so for me I don't face this issue to a certain extent
my clients of course do they I don't think I've had a client who's ever spoken very
good Russian and of course they are normally coming for a short period even
though some of them after it spent a long time here and came on a lot of trips with
me and one even bought property and now basically spend half the year here but at the
same time when you come you're gonna have to figure out how to get over those
and that's where I can help you a lot that's why we live the tsar experience
together because I'm gonna explain all this to I'm gonna be able to coach
you're gonna hang out my crew you're going to have a bit of a social circle when
you come here if you are one of those people who wants really wants a romance tour
and introductions because you don't believe that you can meet a beautiful
Ukrainian women by socializing normally if you don't believe you have that within you
and you're not willing to learn then it's not gonna be for you because there are
no arranged dates in this we're gonna actually just go out you can of course
be with my crew and there's gonna be hot chicks within that as well but there's
no guarantees of anything and believe me when I tell you because this is
something I think is really misunderstood by guys who fall into that
category and actually really have a bad time when they come here getting dates
in Ukraine is not an issue because there are so many scammers it's gonna be
scammers who go onto dating sites or go onto tinder who are loitering in a lot of
these marriage agencies they are scammers and they're gonna go on a date
with you because they want your money I actually had a guy from Australia write
to me yeah yesterday he just said I can't do it on my own I want to arrange
dates well I did explain them to him listen if you're not smart enough to
take the advice there you go go off you have a bad experience you'll learn from
it and you can come back and tell me about your terrible experience I
actually did say that to him listen I can't help you
but tell me how you get on go to X Agency go to
Y agency and see again and see how successful you are because there are
statistics I don't really see are gonna be so high and also the quality of the
women so that's the end of today's vodcast if you have come here to Ukraine
and you had a really cool experience and it was different what I've outlined
here then definitely drop me a comment below in the comments section because
you won't just be telling me off and tell me about your experience you will
also be helping lots of other guys watch this video and with that community
effect I think is really really valuable because I also learn a few things I get
different ideas points that I can use in future videos I also get to learn a lot
about you if you write me a comment and it's just a really good source of
information and then or what I really really am glad about when I see a lot of
guys being warned up from maybe your experiences how to avoid the scammers
and getting you know just losing lots of money wasting your time and
maybe you're having your heart broken here in Ukraine so yeah it's kind of sucks
through this quarantine I'm not sure for how long much long it's gonna be
we're kind of in you know I've actually forgotten what date it is I almost don't know the day of the
week is today every day is the same we've had quarantine here for over a week now in
Ukraine and it might be extended unfortunately when this goes
out probably we'll already know if that's happened or not well because I
have a lot of videos already recorded and ready to go so that's a pretty quick
snappy overview of what the scene is like here in Ukraine if you come whether
you're gonna be cool or not and yeah come here
in any case Ukraine is a fantastic country just bear all those that advice
they giving you in mind when you come here and if you can live the tsar
experience if you're up for it then go and fill out the application form link
below I know it's as usual at the end of these
I ramble on до свидания до побачення see you very very soon in
the next video here on Ukraine ciao