Attacks on oil companies profits are you for that?
>> I haven't looked exactly what he wants to do.
I think the fact that oil companies are making huge profits and
having stock buybacks right now while average person here
is paying nearly $4 a gallon, I think that's wrong.
And I think we need to crack down.
>> [APPLAUSE] >> We need to crack down on that.
>> You just heard a Fox News audience applaud the only progressive policy,,
that I've really heard them applaud in recent years.
Now, this is during a town hall involving Tim Ryan who is running for
a Senate seat in Ohio.
He's running against Republican JD Vance and
Tim Ryan got a lot of applause actually for his opposition or
I'm sorry his position on other things including marijuana legalization.
Before we get to that though, Emma,
I want to go to you because it doesn't surprise me at all that even
conservatives would applaud some progressive proposals.
Especially progressive proposals dealing with corporate greed,
dealing with the economy.
It's just that they don't really get a lot of opportunities to hear what
progressives are actually proposing on these economic issues.
And so I love that there's an opportunity here for
Tim Ryan to make it clear that hey, there is corporate greed,
especially when it comes to the fossil fuel companies.
They know it, the Republican voters know it and they want change.
It's just that they're never really allowed to focus on that.
>> I'm reminded and I was just checking my phone to look it up to make sure that
I was remembering it correctly.
And I think I am that Bernie Sanders during the last presidential
election did a similarly formatted town hall.
And Fox Fox news when he asked the audience if they would prefer
transition to quote a government run system or breath.
They're asked that on behalf of him and a lot of hands and
I don't remember the exact proportion.
But my recollection is that it was a majority shot up and
Bernie Sanders really killed that town hall.
And Tim Ryan is not running a similar campaign to that of Bernie Sanders on
the presidential level.
But I love Tim Ryan's campaign and I'm a progressive, I don't necessarily agree
with the way that he's been framing some topics just like from a substantive level.
But we both have to be principled and what we stand for.
And also strategic and
Tim Ryan totally understands how to run a statewide campaign in Ohio or at the very
least he's been a multiple times re elected member of the house in Ohio.
He has connections with the Democratic Party infrastructure in Ohio,
Sherrod Brown has given him a blueprint of how to run as like a more pro labor,
pro union kind of like blue collar.
But more conservative democrat that's also going up against corporate
greed at least rhetorically and in in many ways substantively.
And kind of staying away from other issues to shave off more apathetic,
centrist or center right voters in Ohio and of the democrats running.
And I'm excluding Fetterman from this because
I think his health challenges have presented a different kind of quandary.
But I've loved his campaign other than that.
But of the other democrats, he has run the best campaign against
a republican in the competitive Senate races ahead of the midterms
because of the way that he's just decided to hammer certain points.
>> Yeah, I totally agree with you.
And what you said about tweaking the message in a strategic way
that would have broader support is important.
Because I think often times there's this disconnect between what
progressive voters demand rhetorically speaking of these candidates.
And what actually works depending on which part of the country in which race
these democratic politicians are running in.
And I think you're absolutely right Tim Ryan, while I definitely have my
disagreements with him because he's more of an establishment democrat.
He has been running a campaign that I would have liked to see replicated
with other democrats running in these congressional races.
Now with that said, the statements about corporate greed and the fossil fuel
companies wasn't the only area in which Tim Ryan got a round of applause.
They also really liked his position on marijuana legalization.
So let's take a look at that moment.
>> Well, what I'm talking about here is marijuana crimes.
I think we need to legalize marijuana.
>> [APPLAUSE] I think violent criminals out.
>> I'm sorry.
>> You said all nonviolent criminals out.
>> I think the focus is marijuana crimes in my mind.
>> So, okay, that last part was really fascinating.
The follow up question about all non violent, I mean,
I don't really understand why not like non violent individuals who are not a threat
to public safety need to be locked up, right?
Unless we're talking about wall street bankers who collapsed the economy and led
to countless Americans losing their homes and finding themselves in economic ruin.
I think in extreme examples in extreme cases, you can make a case for
nonviolent people spending some time behind bars.
But overall, I think Tim Ryan is absolutely right.
I mean the idea that anyone should serve any time behind bars for
marijuana possession is insane and the country wants to move away from that.
>> Yeah, I mean the, you said nonviolent like, yeah, I mean.
>> Yeah. >> He doesn't need to own that, but
it's just hilarious that like that's what the b in that Fox news anchors bond and
I think that was that Dana Perino.
It's hard for me to tell.
But, whatever, it's beside the point.
Yeah, I mean,
that is really effective policy to run on pretty much in every state.
I'm kind of contradicting myself because I was saying, well actually,
I don't think that's true.
I was saying earlier that he has tailored his approach to, Ohio,
which is good, but there are very few one size fits all kind of
perspectives that democrats can take in some of these races.
That's pretty much one of them, in my opinion.
>> Yes. >> Is cannabis and
marijuana legalization where all of these candidates should be running on that for
the most part, unless you're in a really red state.
And it doesn't need to be everybody.
But for the most part, some of these democrats need to have some consult come
in and speak to them about just generally how popular cannabis legalization is.
Because it's on certain ballots and as ballot initiatives.
I think democrats see it as a way to kind of beat back a lot of the republican
turnout that they're expecting in a midterm election
when there's a Democratic president, which is now.
And I think that's good strategy, but that needs to also be reflected in
the campaigns of these democrats, not just on the ballot.
So that it can be a dual track approach
where there's coordination between federal candidates and
also state candidates and ballot initiatives on that front.
>> Definitely and real quick because I wasn't sure either.
But the woman that we heard from in the video was Martha McCollum.
>> Sorry, yeah, no refused.
>> No worries at all, I do want to go to the next one because that wasn't the only
area, believe it or not that Tim Ryan was popular on during this town hall.
In fact in the next clip, he addresses the reversal of Roe V wade.
>> Now JD Vance wants a national abortion ban and
he wouldn't be happy with these people going Illinois.
He wants them to have to get a passport and go to Canada.
He called rape inconveniences >> This is after 15 weeks
is what he's talked about.
We're gonna ask all these questions.
>> After 15 weeks.
>> So what's your number?
What you say, you don't want it afterwards?
>> I think we go back to Roe V Wade.
Roe V Wade was in the third term.
>> [APPLAUSE] in the third.
>> No, that that was the best answer it really was because
what Roe V Wade did was essentially legalize like abortion and
reproductive rights up to the point of viability.
And then after that point states get to decide what their rules and
regulations are?
Viability means the ability for the fetus to survive outside the womb.
And I think that standard is the right standard, okay.
This obsession with like no, tell us what's the cut off.
What do you think the cut off should be?
I don't know. He's a dude.
And he has really no business involving himself in a decision between a woman and
her doctor period.
So like these insane like this is the red line is crazy because
there are different situations, different circumstances.
And I think the person best suited to make that decision is the woman whose body is
being impacted and life is being impacted by this pregnancy.
It's her decision along with her doctor, that's it.
>> medical freedom, baby, medical freedom.
But also, I mean he's, when you answer things like that and Mark Kelly
did something like answered that question similarly in the debate, in Arizona.
When you don't give into the framing,
you are actually benefiting yourself by not getting.
>> Yes. >> Into the specifics there because
when you engage with a rape or incest exemption,
just like think about this practically for a second.
A woman is not going to be able to get an abortion in the time that rape or
incest is proved or a girl who is the victim of incest and rape for example.
So, that is or a person who can get pregnant, I should say so
that is gonna, it is a fig leaf for their brutality.
They want you to be engaging in the details of abortion because the reality of
the situation is that 90% of abortions have happened in that early week.
I think ten week window, eight week window, 12 week window, whatever it is,
a normal kind of like period after you figure out that you're pregnant.
And just, it's something that standard that people kind of associate with
abortion when the 10% happened after that is because a woman is having
a medical emergency more times than not.
And that is when that is a decision between her and her doctor and so
everything else is just gobbledygook it is just pedantry to kind of
soft pedal the brutality that they're trying to impose on women.
So you just skirt that framing and just say Roe V Wade because there's a whole
generation of people that grew up with Roe V Wade being the standard.
And they understood that it wasn't anarchy and babies getting killed in mass.
They know that was the law of the land and
that's what we need to return to obviously.
>> I totally agree with you on that.
Now if some of you are wondering whether the audience actually consists of
right wing voters and Trump supporters.
Well, I think this next video will clarify that for you.
>> They stormed the Capitol on January 6.
They beat up 140 police officers killed one,
okay, they killed one.
>> [APPLAUSE]
>> We all watched a video and I.
>> [CROSSTALK] >> Let him finish please.
>> So to me that video is important because it shows that while the audience
applauded for
things that are typically referred to as progressive policy proposals.
Clearly this is a conservative audience because of the way that they reacted
to the truth about January 6 in the statements that Tim Ryan made there.
But again, like it kind of goes back to something that I say a lot on the show,
Emma, which is everything that we here in media,
everything that we see in terms of framing on the issues.
It's all meant to kind of like highlight the divisions among the electorate
when in reality there are some similarities that I think were
intentionally distracted from focusing on.
>> Well, the similarities are, as you say, it's a great point.
The similarities are often economic policies that
are broadly helpful to people like Medicare and
Social Security and Medicaid and Medicare for all.
I mean, there was a reason that Nancy Pelosi was uninterested in the much
cheaper, and less bureaucratic, way to expand health care to people
during Covid, which was just a temporary expansion of Medicare.
They said we're going to do cobra subsidies instead, it made things so
difficult.
So bureaucratic because they were terrified that if they crack that
door open, then people would go, well, why not have Medicare for all?
>> Yeah. >> And so that's a great point by you.