>> WELCOME BACK SUNDAY NIGHT IN
AMERICA.
OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WARNED US
ABOUT THE DANGERS OF POLITICAL
PARTIES AND FACTIONS.
BUT THEY ALSO UNDERSTOOD HUMAN
NATURE.
PEOPLE TEND TO VOTE IN THEIR
SELF-INTEREST AND ASSOCIATE AND
AGREED, AND ABOUT WITH THOSE WHO
SHARE THEIR VIEWS OR STATION IN
LIFE.
WHILE YOU CANNOT CHANGE HUMAN
NATURE YOU CERTAINLY CAN TRY TO
TAME IT.
SOME OF OUR FOUNDERS UP THE SIZE
OF THE COUNTRY REDUCE THE
LIKELIHOOD OF FACTIONS THE
BIGGER THE COUNTRY, THE MORE
DIVERSE THE PEOPLE, THE LESS
LIKELY IT WOULD BE FOR FACTIONS
TO DOMINATE.
OTHERS BELIEVED HAVING A
REPUBLIC RATHER THAN A PURE
DEMOCRACY WOULD LIMIT FACTIONS
CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN THE
PEOPLE AND THE DECISIONS MIGHT
LEAD TO MORE CONSENSUS.
IF ONLY THEY COULD SEE US NOW.
WE HAVE BECOME EXACTLY WHAT THEY
HAVE FEARED WE ARE IN FACT
POLLING INDICATES THAT,
ELECTIONS PROVE THAT, ELECTIONS
RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTIONS
CONFIRM THAT.
THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GET
TO CENTER RIGHT?
YOU CAN DO WHAT WE DO IS HAVE
THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT PULL AS
HARD AS THEY CAN BECAUSE WE ARE
50/50 COUNTRY THAT PUSHING AND
PULLING RESULTS IN A STALEMATE
FOR THE OTHER WAY TO GET TO
CENTER RIGHT IS TO SIMPLY START
THERE.
NO PUSHING, NO POLLING TO START
SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT OF CENTER
AND STAY THERE.
THERE IS NO CONSTITUENCY LEFT TO
CENTER RIGHT PEOPLE LOOK AT
CONGRESS.
THE 2020 ELECTION IS ONLY 17% OF
THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES ARE
DECIDED BY LESS THAN 10% STATED
DIFFERENTLY OVER 80% OF THE
CONGRESSIONAL RACE IN THIS
COUNTRY WERE A LANDSLIDE
VICTORIES, TEN POINTS IS A
LANDSLIDE IN POLITICS.
WE HAVE BECOME A NATION OF
PRIMARY DISTRICTS.
MEANING IF YOU IN THE PRIMARY
ELECTION YOU’RE GOING TO WIN THE
GENERAL ELECTION.
THE GENERAL ELECTION HAS BECOME
IRRELEVANT.
THE REAL RACE IS A REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRAT PRIMARY WHICH IS WHAT
REDISTRICTING HAS DONE CONGRESS
TO BIG FACTIONS ELECTED BY
SMALLER FACTIONS READ MY
DISTRICT IN SOUTH CAROLINA
REPUBLICAN IS GOING TO WIN IN
NOVEMBER NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT IS WITH THE DISTRICT IS
DRAWN.
JIM CLYBURN ALSO FROM SOUTH
CAROLINA IS GOING TO WIN IN
NOVEMBER NO MATTER WHAT.
THE PRIMARY IS WHAT MATTERS IN
THE WAY TO WIN THE PRIMARY IS TO
BE THE MOST PROGRESSIVE ARE THE
MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE IN
THAT PRIMARY.
ON ELECTION NIGHT SOUTH CAROLINA
WILL HAVE LET SIX REPUBLICANS
AND ONE DEMOCRAT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.
I CANNOT TELL YOU THOSE
REPUBLICANS WILL BE SOME R AND
CONTESTED PRIMARIES AND THE
ISSUE AS YOU WILL HAVE GUESSED
BY NOW IS WHO IS THE MOST
CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE IN THAT
PRIMARY?
SA MR. ON THE OTHER OTHER SIDE
THE SQUAD IT STARTED WITH FOUR
MEMBERS AND HAS ALREADY GROWN.
AND THAT WILL GROW MORE.
MODERATE DEMOCRATS WILL BE
CHALLENGED BY MORE PROGRESSIVE
DEMOCRATS FOR THE MORE
PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT WILL WIN
THE PRIMARY.
WE WILL HAVE A CONGRESS FULL OF
THE MOST CONSERVATIVE AND MOST
PROGRESSIVE MEMBERS POSSIBLE.
CONGRESS WILL CONSIST OF THE
SQUAD AND THE FREEDOM CAUCUS.
SOME OF YOU MAY THINK THAT IS
GOOD.
OTHERS WILL NOT.
IT’S NOT HOW WE GET HERE.
HUMAN NATURE EXPLAIN SOME OF IT.
BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
WHAT DRIVES THE DIVISION NOW IS
A FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT ON
THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
HIS GOVERNMENT SUPPOSED TO BE
LARGE AND BE THE ANSWER TO EVERY
QUESTION AND TAKE OVER EVERY
ASPECT OF OUR LIVES EVENTUALLY
MAKING THE NEED FOR STATER IN
THE OTHER SUBDIVISION OBSOLETE?
OR ARE WE, AS I BELIEVE, NATION
WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF
LIMITED AND DISCRETE POWERS,
ENUMERATED POWERS?
ARE WE A NATION WHERE PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY PLAYS A ROLE?
IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REALLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR EDUCATION
AND OUR HEALTHCARE, AND OUR
RETIREMENT?
ARE WE CRADLE TO GRAVE AWARD OF
THE STATE?
ARE WE A NATION OF THE STATES
ARE FREE TO EXPERIMENT IN
CALIFORNIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA IT
CAN DO THINGS VERY DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT?
WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE STATE
GOVERNMENT?
AND MY FAVORITE QUESTION OF ALL,
WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE
INDIVIDUAL?
AND THAT IS THE DEBATE.
WHOEVER WINS THAT DEBATE WILL
HAVE THE BIGGER FACTION.
AND THEN IT WILL BE CALLED A
FACTION ANYMORE.
HE WILL BE CALLED THE RULING
PARTY.
JOINING IS NOW A FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR IN WASHINGTON TIMES
OPINION EDITOR CHARLIE HURT.
CHARLIE, I HATE TO TELL ME IF
I’M WRONG I KNOW YOU WILL
THERE’S A CHANCE I AM.
DOESN’T SEEMED LIKE MORE AND
MORE DISTRICTS ARE WHAT I CALL
PRIMARY DISTRICTS FOR THERE ARE
FEWER AND FEWER GENERAL ELECTION
DISTRICTS.
IS IT GOOD OR BETTER DO YOU HAVE
AN OPINION ON THAT?
>> OF COURSE YOU’RE RIGHT AND OF
COURSE THE FOUNDERS WORRIED
ABOUT THIS.
THEY WERE SHOCKED EVEN WITH ON
THEIR OWN LIFETIMES BY THE RISE
OF FACTION AND BY THE RISE OF
PARTIES WHICH THEY LAMENTED.
BUT AS YOU POINT OUT THEY WERE
STUDENTS OF HUMAN NATURE AND WE
HAVE PROVEN THEM VERY WISE TO
WORRY ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IF IT IS BREAKABLE, WE WILL
BREAK IT.
MOVE FIND A WAY TO SCREW IT UP
WE HAVE 215 WHATEVER IT IS, I
DON’T DO MATH, TO EARN 20 YEARS
OF SCREWING IT UP.
BUT I STILL BELIEVE THE SYSTEM
WE BUILT TO DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB
OVER THE CENTURIES.
TO KEEP US SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE
DITCHES.
I’M HOPELESSLY PREDISPOSED TO
BEING HOPEFUL ABOUT THESE THINGS
THINGS.
OR WE HAVE THE RISE OF THE SQUAD
AND SURELY THE SQUAD WAS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS GOING TO
BECOME A WHOLE LOT MORE POWERFUL
THAN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY WILL
LOSE POWER IN THE HOUSE.
THAT SMALLER, LOUDER MORE INSANE
FACTION HAS BECOME ALL THAT MUCH
MORE POWERFUL.
WHY DEMOCRATS LOSE CONTROL THE
HOUSE.
IN THE WAY THE SITUATION GOES
NOW IT’S FIGHTING WITH MEAT AXES
AS OPPOSED TO SCALPELS.
WHAT YOU AND I WANT IS 535 TRADE
COUNTIES WHO CAN WALK IN THERE
AND SAY OKAY, LET’S COME UP WITH
A REASON.
I THINK IF YOU PICKED FIVE OR 35
PEOPLE FOR MY HOME TOWN THEY
WOULD WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS
SOLVE 90% OF THE PROBLEMS TO 95%
OF THE SECTION OF 90% OF THE
PEOPLE IN AMERICA THEN YOU AND I
WOULD NOT HAVE JOBS BECAUSE
THERE WOULD BE NO VALUE IN
COVERING ALL THIS STUFF EXCEPT
FROM SORT OF AN ACADEMIC
STANDPOINT.
X YOU KNOW, CHARLIE I’VE ALWAYS
LIKED TO PRAY SERVE WITH YOUR
BROTHER WHOM I FOUND YOUR
BROTHER TO BE CONSERVATIVE BY
ANY DEFINITION.
ALTHOUGH I WOULD NOT BE
SURPRISED IN THE CURRENT
ENVIRONMENT IF SOMEBODY DID NOT
RUN AGAINST TO THE RIGHT TOO.
IF WE ARE A CENTER RIGHT
COUNTRY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD
GET THERE BY DOING WHAT WE ARE
DOING NOW WHICH IS PULLING AS
HARD AS WE CAN OR WE COULD JUST
ELECT CENTER RIGHT PEOPLE OR AM
I JUST TOO NAÏVE?
ONE THING WE ARE MISSING HERE
THAT IS THE ROLE OF THE MEDIA
AND ALL OF THIS.
THAT SOMEBODY IN THE MEDIA I
TEND TO HATE THEM MEDIA BEFORE
HATE ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE I
REALIZE THE DEGREE TO IT THEY
LIE ABOUT THINGS AND DISTORT
THINGS.
WE TALK ABOUT THE CRAZY RADICALS
ON THE LEFT, THEY ARE TALKED
ABOUT FREE HEALTHCARE FOR
ILLEGALS.
THEIR TALK ABOUT A BILE
ABOLISHING ICE FOR THE TIME BUT
DEFUNDING THE POLICE THIS IS
REALLY NUTS STUFF.
DEMOCRATS DO NOT SUPPORT THIS
STUFF APPEARED ON THE RIGHT,
THAT IS WORLD EXTREMISM IS
ACCORDING TO MOST PEOPLE IN THE
MEDIA, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A
CONSERVATIVE I MEAN A RADICAL ON
THE RIGHT OR AN EXTREMIST, THEY
WANT TO ENFORCE THE LAWS TO
ENFORCE THE BORDER.
THEY WANT TO STOP PRINTING MONEY
MONEY.
THESE ARE HARDLY RADICAL IDEAS
FOR THESE ARE THE MOST SENSIBLE
IDEAS ON THE PLANET YET THEY ARE
THE ONES THAT GET BETRAYED BY
THE MEDIA AS THESE CRAZY
RADICALS.
AND YET THEIR IDEAS ARE FAR MORE
POPULAR AND FAR MORE WINNABLE
THAN THE LUNATIC FRINGE IDEAS OF
THE SQUAD ON THE LEFT.
>> YOU KNOW, CHARLIE IF YOU CAN
WIN THE DEBATE OVER AT LANGUAGE,
YOU CAN WIN THE DEBATE.
I THINK THAT IS THE POINT YOU
ARE MAKING.
YOU CAN BE ULTRACONSERVATIVE BUT
YOU CANNOT BE ALTERED
PROGRESSIVE.
LOOK, THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME
ON A SUNDAY NIGHT PRAY KNOW YOU