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>>> THE
>>> THE USUALLY POPULAR SCI-FI TV SHOW SUPERNATURAL IS NO IN
ITS FINAL SEASON.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT --
HELLO.
HELLO.
HELLO. YOU DROVE DOWN FROM BELLINGHAM.
YOU GET A METAL.
>> WHAT KIND OF A METAL?
>> IT IS GOLD FOR IN DURING,
KEEPING GOING.
KEEPING GOING. >> I MADE THE MISTAKE OF
GETTING INTO THE WRESTLING.
AS SOON AS I GET THAT IT ADDED
10 MINUTES TO THE TRAVEL TIME.
>> WILL COME TO RAINY SEATTLE,
WHERE WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO
DRIVE IN THE RAIN.
HERE WE ARE.
>> IRONIC.
>> IRONIC. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS BOOK
WHICH YOU WROTE WITH YOUR WIFE,
THE ADVENTUROUS EATERS CLUB.
UP EARLY TO HELP YOUR SON NOT
BE A PICKY EATER.
>> WE STARTED OUT WITH A FIRST
CHILD BEING A VERY PICKY EATER.
FOOD AND COALESCING AROUND THE
INNER TABLE WAS SOMETHING THAT
WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MY
CHILDHOOD.
CHILDHOOD. WHEN WE FOUND THAT DINNER TIME
WHICH WILL WAS ACTUALLY A TIME
OF STRIFE AND ANIMOSITY, IT WAS
VERY SOUL CRUSHING FOR ME.
BUT WE SORT OF BEGAN A JOURNEY
AND DISCOVERED THAT THERE
ACTUALLY ARE WAYS TO GET KIDS
TO BE ADVENTUROUS AND TO START
EATING WHOLE, HEALTHY FOODS.
SO THIS BOOK IS PART COOKBOOK
ABOUT 100 RECIPES IN THERE.
IT IS SORT OF A GUIDE TO TAKING
YOUR CHILD AND FAMILY FROM
PICKY EATER TO ADVENTUROUS
EATER.
EATER.
EATER. >>
EATER. >> THERE IS YOUR FAMILY AND
EVERY ONE LOOKS HAPPY.
GAVE ME THE TOP COUPLE OF TIPS.
LIKE MY GET ONLY EIGHT, I THINK,
GOLDFISH UNTIL HE WAS LIKE 12.
IT WAS HARD TO, YOU KNOW, BE
ADVENTUROUS BUT YOU DON'T KNOW
YOU DON'T LIKE IT IF YOU HAVE
NOT EATEN IT. I'M LIKE YOU.
I DON'T WANT FAMILY DINNER TO
BE A BATTLE.
THAT SHOULD BE THE FUN TIME
WHERE WE RECONNECT AT THE END
OF THAT DAY.
TALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU GET
STARTED.
STARTED.
STARTED. >> ONE IS TO LET KIDS BE
INVOLVED IN THE COOKING PROCESS
IN A PLAYFUL WAY.
CHILDREN LEARN THROUGH PLAY.
WE KNOW THAT IN ALL FIELDS
EXCEPT IN THE KITCHEN IT SEEMS.
WHEN WE GET INTO THE KITCHEN,
WE ARE LIKE, NO, NO, NO, THAT
IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
A MESS IN THE KITCHEN IS
SOMETHING THAT DRIVES US CRAZY.
EVERYONE IS TIRED OF DOING THE
EXTRA DISHES AND THAT SORT OF
THING.
THING.
THING. THE TRUTH IS, KIDS LEARN THAT
MAY BE. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO
EXPORT IN THE PREPARATION OF
FOOD, THEY ARE MUCH MORE
WILLING TO EXPLORE TAKING THAT
FOOD BUT THEY FEEL THEY HAVE
OWNERSHIP OVER IT.
THEY'VE YOU LIKE, I MADE THIS.
OR I INVENTED THIS.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE WILLING TO
TRY.
TRY.
TRY. WE
TRY. WE WERE REALLY STARTING ON THE
PATH TO WRITING THIS COOKBOOK
WHEN I CAME HOME FROM GROCERY
SHOPPING WITH MY SON AND
REALIZED AS I WAS UNPACKING THE
GROCERIES THAT I WAS MAYBE ON
MY PHONE WHEN WE WERE CHECKING
OUT AT THE REGISTER BUT I
DIDN'T SEE THAT HE PUT A BUNCH
OF THINGS INTO THE GROCERY
BASKET INCLUDING JERUSALEM
ARTICHOKES, WHICH I NEVER IN MY
LIFE COOK.
LIFE COOK. >> WOW.
>> WOW.
>> WOW. >> I SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW
HOW TO COOK THESE.
HE WAS A TODDLER AT THE TIME.
HE WAS LIKE YOUR CHILD EATING A
LOT OF GOLDFISH
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> HE SAID, I WILL SHOW YOU.
AND HE TOOK A ROLLING PIN AND
SMASHED THEM AND TOLD ME TO PUT
THEM IN THE PAN.
>> HOW DID HE KNOW THIS?
HE IS JUST MAKING THAT?
>> HE WAS MAKING IT UP AND THEN
HE SMEARED PEANUT BUTTER ON
THEM, DEVOURED A WHOLE PLATE OF
THEM.
THEM.
THEM. I
THEM. I PRESENTED THIS FOOD TO HIM
BUT HE WOULD HAVE SCOWLED AT ME
AND THEN PICKED IT UP AND THEN
THROWN IT AT ME.
SO THAT WAS REALLY SORT OF THE
INCEPTION .4 WRITING THIS
COOKBOOK BUT THERE WERE OTHER
TRICKS.
TRICKS.
TRICKS. WE PRESENT RUSSELL SPROUTS TO A
KID, AND THEY DON'T EAT IT.
WE WILL THINK MY CHILD DOESN'T
LIKE BRUSSELS SPROUTS BUT THE
TRUTH IS IT TAKES 10 TO 15
TRIES FOR KIDS.
KEEP PRESENTING SOMETHING.
DON'T COERCE THEM.
GIVE IT AS AN OFFERING.
DON'T ONLY GIVE THE BRUSSELS
BEST.
BEST.
BEST. GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY
ARE USED TO AND EVENTUALLY THEY
WILL TAKE I WILL TRY THAT.
>> I LOVE THESE IDEAS.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TIPS
IN THE BOOK.
BUT YOUR WIFE AND YOU WROTE
THIS BOOK.
THIS BOOK. SHE IS KIND OF A ROCK STAR,
GRADUATED UNIVERSITY OF
CHICAGO, I THINK, HER DOCTORATE
AT HISTORY.
AT HISTORY. SHE IS AN AUTHOR.
SHE IS A SLACKER COPY SLEEP YOU
TWO TACKLE THIS TOGETHER.
WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO DO THIS AS
A FAMILY?
A FAMILY?
A FAMILY? >> THERE I THINK FOR THE MOST
PART, IT WORKED REALLY WELL.
WE HAD MOMENTS OF CONTENTION
WHEN WE WERE DOING THE PHOTO
SHOOT WITH THE KIDS.
THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN THEY
WERE NOT COOPERATING.
WE WERE LIKE, WE HAVE TO
PRETEND EXPECT A HAPPY FAMILY.
>> YOU BE HAPPY.
BUT ALL IN ALL, ACTUALLY, IT
WAS A REALLY LOVELY EXPERIENCE,
WRITING THE BOOK WITH VICKI
BECAUSE SHE BRINGS A LOT OF
RESEARCH AND SHE IS VERY NERDY.
SHE HAS HER PhD.
WE WERE ON THE SAME EDUCATIONAL
TRAJECTORY UNTIL SHE WENT INTO A
DOCTORAL PROGRAM AND I WENT ON
BECOMING AN ACTOR.
>> YOU MADE A PRETTY GOOD
CHOICE.
CHOICE.
CHOICE. >> SHE IS THE BRAINS OF THE
OPERATION.
OPERATION. BUT WE REALLY WORKED QUITE WELL
TOGETHER ON THE BOOK.
I BROUGHT A LITTLE BIT OF
WHIMSY AND A LITTLE BIT OF
PROCRASTINATION TO THE TABLE.
SHEEP BROUGHT RESEARCH?
>> AND YOUR SON BROUGHT
SMASHING ARTICHOKE
SMASHING ARTICHOKE >> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TEAM.
THANK YOU FOR A BOOK THAT IS
NOT GIGANTIC SO THAT WE CAN GO
INTO THE KITCHEN WITH THIS.
"SUPERNATURAL" IS REPPING UP.
YOU NEVER KNOW HOW LONG A
PROJECT LIKE THAT WILL LET.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT IT
WRAPPING UP?
WRAPPING UP? >> ENDING "SUPERNATURAL" IS
VERY BITTERSWEET FOR ANYONE
INVOLVED IN THE SHOW.
THE SHOW HAS BEEN GOING FOR 15
SEASONS.
SEASONS.
SEASONS. THAT IS LONG FOR ANYTHING.
IT IS LONG FOR AN AUTOMOBILE
MANUFACTURER, LET ALONE A TV
SHOW.
SHOW.
SHOW. I
SHOW. I JOINED THE SHOW 12 YEARS AGO.
AND IT FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT
TIME TO END UP IT
>> THAT IS GOOD.
>> WE ARE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE
TO MAKE THAT CHOICE CREATIVELY
RATHER THAN BEING FORCED OUT BY
THE NETWORK OR THE STUDIO.
WE FELT LIKE WE COULD EITHER DO
ONE FINAL SEASON AND GO OUT
WITH A BANG OR MAYBE DRAG IT
OUT FOR TWO OR THREE MORE YEARS
BUT WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS BEST
TO TRY TO GO FOR THE SHORT AND
SWEET.
SWEET.
SWEET. AND --
AND --
AND -- >>
AND -- >> AND PURPOSEFUL.
>> YES, AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT
IT.
IT.
IT. AT
IT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE LOVE
WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WE ARE ALL CLOSE FRIENDS.
WE ARE GOING TO MISS IT.
>> MISSING EACH OTHER.
>> WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS NEXT FOR
ME.
ME.
ME. >>
ME. >> IS
ME. >> IS THAT FUN?
>> IT IS FUNNY THAT YOU ASKED
THAT
THAT
THAT >>
THAT >> WHEN WE DECIDED THAT THE
SHOW WAS COME TO AN END, I HAD
SEVERAL MONTHS OF TREPIDATION,
LIKE, OH, NO, WHAT AM I GOING
TO DO NEXT?
WHAT IS MY FUTURE?
AND THEN SOMETHING SWITCHED A
FEW MONTHS AGO.
THIRD THING, WHAT IS GOING TO
BE NEXT?
BE NEXT?
BE NEXT? WHAT IS MY FUTURE?
IT WAS A VERY SUBTLE CHANGED.
I WENT FROM BEING FILLED WITH
DREAD ABOUT IT TO BEING FILLED
WITH CURIOSITY AND OPTIMISM.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
FUTURE. I
FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT HOLDS.
AND MY FAMILY MOVED TO
BELLINGHAM BECAUSE WE SHOULD
THE SHOW IN VANCOUVER.
WE LIVE NEARBY.
AND WE ARE ALSO TRIED TO FIGURE
OUT, DO WE STAY IN WASHINGTON?
WASHINGTON IS SUCH AN
UNEXPECTED JOY TO DISCOVER.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT WE WERE
GOING TO LOVE IT HERE.
IN L.A., EVERYONE IS LIKE, YOU
DON'T WANT TO GO TO SEATTLE.
IT RAINS ALL THE TIME.
THIS IS AMAZING.
>> DO NOT TELL ANYBODY.
>> THIS IS A THIEF IS SPACE.
>> IT DOES GO ON THE INTERNET
AND THAT WORD GETS OUT.
WE REALLY HAVE TO TRY TO KEEP
IT EXACTLY.
IT EXACTLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> APPRECIATE IT.
I HOPE YOUR DRIVE BACK IS
BETTER AND EASIER.
>> I AM DOING A READING IN
BELLINGHAM.
BELLINGHAM. >> MISHA WILL BE IN BELLINGHAM.
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