>> WOW!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.
>> IT'S SO LOVELY TO BE HERE.
>> Stephen: SO NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> JUST GORGEOUS.
>> Stephen: WE HAD SUCH A LOVELY VISIT LAST TIME WHEN
WAS-- ( WHISTLES )
THAT WAS A WHILE AGO.
THAT WAS TWO DAYS-- WAS IT AFTER THE ELECTION OR AFTER THE
INAUGURATION?
TWO DAYS AFTER-- >> AFTER THE ELECTION.
>> Stephen: TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION YOU WERE HERE.
IT WAS A SHOCK TIME.
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRUTHINESS SINCE THEN.
>> Stephen: THERE SURE HAS.
HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
>> I'VE BEEN BUSY.
MAYBE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DISTRACT MYSELF FROM ALL OF
THAT.
BUT, YEAH, I'VE BEEN SO BUSY.
>> Stephen: AND YOU HAVE BEEN BUSY, YOUR FAMILY'S BEEN BUSY.
>> TOO BUSY!
>> Stephen: I JUST WATCHED THIS MORNING, I DON'T KNOW-- DO
YOU MIND IF I SHOW THIS?
>> OH, MY BABY!
>> Stephen: YOUR DAUGHTER WHO IS NICO.
>> NICO.
>> Stephen: NICO IS TIM BURTON'S LIVE ACTION OF DUMBO,
AND YOUR DAUGHTER IS IN IT?
>> MY BABY.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
>> Stephen: SHE LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE YOU.
>> THAT IS THE BIGGEST COMPLIMENT EVER.
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND YOU SEE YOUR KIDS
LOOKING BACK AT YOU, IT'S JUST MIND BLOWING.
>> Stephen: I DON'T SEE MY KID WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
I SEE MY-- I SEE MY PARENTS WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
I NEED TO MOISTURIZE MORE.
>> OOH.
>> Stephen: ARE YOU EXCITED SHE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN SHOW
BUSINESS?
SOME PARENTS ARE LIKE, "DON'T GET INTO THIS."
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DESPERATELY WANT THEM TO GET
INVOLVED AND I TRIED TO STEER THEM AWAY.
>> Stephen: HOW?
HOW DID YOU GENTLY STEER?
>> I, OBVIOUSLY, STEERED HER RIGHT TOWARD IT.
BUT I JUST-- I THINK IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT PROFESSION.
THERE'S SO MUCH REJECTION.
SO MUCH COMPETITION, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN WOMEN.
IT'S-- IT'S A REALLY, REALLY TOUGH PLACE TO BE.
BUT THEY SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON SEX, THAT FOR THEM IT WAS LIKE,
"MEH, WHATEVER."
THEY WERE BORED ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW.
I WAS THE ONE SAYING, "PLEASE SEE MOMMY DOING THIS."
AND THEY WERE LIKE, "BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER."
SO FOR THEM, IT LOST THE-- YOU KNOW, THE ALLURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, SHE-- SHE GOT INTO IT TOTALLY BY ACCIDENT.
SHE HAD HER OWN YOUTUBE CHANNEL, AND I HAD NO IDEA.
THIS WAS WHEN SHE WAS 11 AND SHE USED TO DO LITTLE TUTORIALS
ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS HAVING FOR BREAKFAST AND WHAT SHE DID ON
CHRISTMAS DAY.
ANYWAY, I GOT A CALL A CASTING DIRECTOR IN THE STATES SAYING
THEY HAD SEEN MY DAUGHTER ON UYIEWB, AND WAS SHE INTERESTED
IN AUDITIONING FOR A MOVIE?
AND I SAID NO, SHE'S NOT GOING TO AUDITION IT'S TOO SCARY.
AND THEY SAID CAN SHE AUDITION ON A CELL PHONE IN AND THE
DIRECTOR ADORED HER.
NICO WAS NONE PLUSSED.
BUT WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO KISS A 16-YEAR-OLD BOY
IN THE MOVIE SHE SAID, "I'M NOT DOING THAT."
SO THAT WAS, THAT.
AND I THOUGHT GREAT.
WHEW!
WE'VE DODGED THAT BULLET.
AND THEN BACK IN-- BACK IN ENGLAND THAMMOND AGAIN, A
CASTING DIRECTOR HEARD THAT SHE HAD BEEN PRETTY LUMINOUS IN THIS
SCREEN TEST, AND IT WAS TIM BURTON'S "DUMBO."
AND AS SOON AS MY KID HEARD ABOUT TIM BURTON AND "DUMBO,"
SHE SAID YES.
AND WE RECORDED HER ON THE IPHONE AGAIN AND TIM BURTON
LOVED HER AND THAT IS HISTORY.
>> Stephen: AND HE DIRECTED "MAMA MIA."
IS THERE GOING TO BE A CAMEO?
>> I WISH.
ALL THE CAST HAS BEEN SELECTED BECAUSE OF THE FIRST MOVIE.
BUT MY HUSBAND MANAGED TO GET CHER.
>> Stephen: SO THAT EXPLAINS THIS?
>> THAT EXPLAINS THAT!
>> Stephen: CHER IS IN THE MOVIE.
>> THAT WAS OUR CHRISTMAS CARD.
>> Stephen: SHE HAS A CAMEO BUT YOU DON'T.
ARE YOU JEALOUS OF CHER GIHAVE TO COMPETE WITH-- WITH CHER FOR
MY HUSBAND'S ATTENTION RIGHT NOW OKAY.
LIKE, LITERALLY, I'M ON THE PHONE, "BABY, IT'S OUR
ANNIVERSARY JULY 11."
"OH, I'VE GOT THE PREMIERE OF "MAMA MIA," IN STOCKHOLM.
"WILL CHER THEREBY?" HOLD ON A SEC.
"CHER, ARE YOU COMING TO STOCKHOLM."
IT'S NUTS.
I'M LIKE ( SUCKING SOUND ).
>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU DO JUST DO?
>> AND I WAS LIKE, "BABY, CHER IS GOING TO BE IN STOCKHOLM AND
I'M NOT?" HEY, A LOT OF YOU OUT THERE KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: NOW YOU FOUGHT BACK, THOUGH.
>> I FOUGHT BACK.
I TOOTH SUCKED HARD!
>> Stephen: YOUR DATE WAS RU PAUL TO THE PREMIERE OF "SOLO."
>> YUP!
>> Stephen: RIGHT THERE.
>> I KNOW.
BECAUSE MY HUSBAND WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR THE-- FOR THE
PREMIERE OF "SOLO."
HE WAS DOING RESHEETS OF MAMA MIA, SO I ASKED MY NEW BESTIE.
AND SHE LOVES "WESTWORLD--" HE.
>> Stephen: HE.
I THINK HE IDENTIFIES AS HE.
>> SHE, RU PAUL, HIS ALTER EGO, LOVES MAEVE.
THAT'S HOW WE BECAME BESTIE S.
>> Stephen: I LOVE MAEVE.
>> DO YOU.
>> Stephen: I'M WATCHING IT RIGHT NOW.
I I'M ONE EPISODE BEHIND.
>> LUCKY YOU!
EPISODE EIGHT IS DOPE!
>> Stephen: I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT, TAKE YOUR WORD FOR
IT.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE EPISODES THAT HAVE BEEN
HAPPENING.
THE LAST COUPLE OF EPISODE, ESPECIALLY THE SHOGUN WORLD OF
"WESTWORLD."
YOU SPEAK A LOT OF JAPANESE.
>> OF THE JAPANESE.
>> Stephen: LIKE LONG CHUNKS OF JAPANESE DIALOGUE.
DID YOU SPEAK ANY DIALOGUE BEFORE YOU DID THAT EPISODE?
>> NO!
>> Stephen: IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT-- MANY--
>> MY BUTT CHEEKS WERE CLENCHED FOR AN ENTIRE EPISODE.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
>> Stephen: I WAS GOING TO ASK.
I WAS GOING TO ASK.
>> YEAH!
I WAS TERRIFIED BECAUSE I KNEW I COULD NOT SCREW IT UP.
MAEVE HAS TO BE PERFECT.
>> Stephen: IT'S A TONAL LANGUAGE, TOO.
IT'S VERY FOREIGN TO OUR WESTERN EARS.
>> IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
>> Stephen: HOW-- HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO GET THAT DOWN?
>> WELL, I HAD ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO PREPARE.
BUT BY THE END, THEY WERE ADDING SCENES THE DAY BEFORE, YOU KNOW,
LINES OF DIALOGUE.
BUT ONCE I HAD THE KIND OF STRUCTURE OF THE LANGUAGE AND,
YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT BODY LANGUAGE.
FOR WOMEN IT'S VERY, VERY MODEST, MODEST LANGUAGE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR TONGUE IN FRONT OF YOUR TEETH, YOU KNOW.
THERE'S -- >> Stephen: REALLY?
>> THE CHIN IS DOWN.
AND IT'S A-- IT'S A LOT TO DO WITH THE WHOLE DANCE OF THE
BODY.
AND ONCE I HAD THAT, I WAS PRETTY-- I WAS PRETTY... I HAD
IT.
IT WAS GOOD.
>> Stephen: WELL, I'M CERTAINLY IMPRESSED.
I'M CERTAINLY IMPRESSED.
I HAD TO SING A SONG IN KOREAN ONCE.
I LEARNED AWE FAIR AMOUNT OF KOREAN.
AND I WORKED WITH A KOREAN LANGUAGE COACH TO STUDY THE-- TO
LEARN THE WORDS TO THE SONG.
AND I WOULD SAY IT BACK TO HER, AND NO MATTER HOW I WOULD DO IT
I WOULD SAY, "IS THAT-- IS THAT CLOSE ENOUGH?"
AND SHE WOULD SAY, "NO, IT IS VERY BAD."
AND YOU.
>> AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
>> Stephen: EXACTLY, PERFECTLY RIGHT.
YOU'RE ALSO IN "SOLO"
AND IT PREMIERED AT CANNES.
>> YES, IT DID.
>> Stephen: I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT HOW BIEFL-- WHO MADE
THIS DRESS THAT YOU'RE WEARING ON THE RED CARPET.
>> I HAD A DREAM THAT I WANTED TO DO THIS.
I PLAY WITH MY LITTLE BOY, WITH ALL THE PEOPLE OF COLOR FROM THE
"STAR WARS" LEGACY, AND WHEN I REALIZED I WAS THE FIRST WOMAN
OF COLOR REALLY TO HAVE A LEAD ROLE, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS
IS BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE-- THAT HAVE STRUGGLED UP
UNTIL THIS POINT, YOU KNOW.
I WANTED TO HONOR THEM.
AND THEN I ASKED VIVIAN WESTWOOD IF SHE WOULD COLLABORATE ON A
GOWN.
THIS WONDERFUL PHOTOGRAPHER TOOK A PHOTO OF MY KIDS' TOYS.
>> Stephen: YOU CAN PUSH IN?
THE DRESS IS COVERED WITH IMAGES OF ALL THE--
>> ALL THE MEN.
>> Stephen: ALL THE TOYS.
THERE'S JOHN BOYAGA, RIGHT THERE.
>> ALL THE BOYS OF COLOR WHO APPEARED IN THE LEGACY, AND THEY
ALL FIT ON ONE DRESS WHICH IS, YOU KNOW.
THERE YOU GO.
BUT THERE THEY ARE.
AND IT WAS SO SWEET.
THE NEXT DAY SAM JACKSON TWEETED A RESPONSE SAYING, "THANK YOU
FOR TAKING A BROTHER TO THE CANNES FILM FESTIVAL."
IT WAS REALLY SWEET.
BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STRUGGLED.
AND SO OFTEN-- I THINK NOW WE'RE IN SUCH A-- WE ARE IN AN
"EVERYTHING NOW" GENERATION WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO NOT THINK
ABOUT HISTORY.
AND REALLY WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AND SEE THE GREATNESS THAT HAS
COME BEFORE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE AN ACTOR OR ACTRESS YOU LOOK UP TO,
YOUR ACTOR OR ACTRESS WHO IS YOUR HERO.
>> ISABELLE LUPIERRE.
>> Stephen: SHE'S STILL PERFORMING.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND HER WORK WITH MICHAEL HANIKERR.
I AM PERPLEXED.
>> Stephen: PERPLEXED BY HOW GOOD SHE IS?
>> HIM AND HER.
AND I THINK MOST OTHER ACTING ON PALS IN COMPARISON.
>> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORK WITH HER?
>> LIKE SOMETIMES YOU WANT THOSE HEROES TO ALWAYS BE DISTANT.
LIKE I COULDN'T-- NO.
NO.
I WANT THAT TO BE A PLACE OF REVERENCE AND A PLACE THAT I'M
ALWAYS TRYING TO GET TO AS OPPOSED TO-- I DON'T WANT TO
EVER GET THERE.
THAT WOULD-- THAT WOULD-- YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS WANT TO BE IN AWE
OF WHAT I'M DOING AND THE PEOPLE THEY FEEL DO IT A HELL OF A LOT
BETTER THAN I DO.
>> Stephen: WELL, I DISAGREE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> OH, IT'S LOVELY TO BE HERE!
>> Stephen: "WESTWORLD" AIRS SUNDAYS ON HBO.
THANDIE NEWTON, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!