SHANNON.
>> Shannon: JONATHAN HUNT IN
L.A.
THANK YOU.
BRUCE OHR AND THE AUTHOR OF THE
DOSSIER, IF YOU HEARD,
COMMUNICATING ON AN ENCRYPTED
APP AND COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN
THE TWO CONTINUE LONG AFTER THE
FBI HAD FIRED STEELE.
A COUPLE THINGS WE ARE LEARNING.
LET'S TURN TO JOHN TRUSTEE AND
JOHN YOO.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
JIM, I WANT TO START WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW THESE PLAYERS.
WHAT ARE YOUR IMPRESSIONS?
>> THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF
QUESTIONS, THAT IS THE MADDENING
PART.
WE ARE GETTING CLOSER TO KNOWING
MORE ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE
PROBE AND REALLY WHAT CONDUCT OR
PERHAPS MISCONDUCT WAS TAKING
PLACE.
WHEN I LOOK AT IS FOR SIX
MONTHS, A DECOMMISSIONED
INFORMANT IS BEING INTERVIEWED
OR BEING CONNECTED THROUGH
BRUCE OHR TO HIS ORIGINAL
SPONSORS, THE FBI.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY ARE
THEY HAVING THESE MEETINGS WITH
BRUCE OHR?
WHY ARE THEY COLLECTING THUMB
DRIVES AND OTHER INFORMATION
FROM BRUCE OHR AS HE CONTINUES
TO WORK THIS RELATIONSHIP HE HAD
WITH STEELE?
WE ARE NOT ALL THE WAY THERE FOR
ANSWERS BUT WE HAVE SOME PRETTY
GOOD QUESTIONS.
WE WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE,
NELLIE OHR WAS BRUCE OHR'S WIFE,
HE'S THE DOJ OFFICIAL.
SHE WAS HIRED TO DO RESEARCH FOR
FUSION GPS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW
THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, THE
FBI NOTES ON INTERVIEWS WITH
BRUCE OHR, ONE SAYS GLENN
SIMPSON AT FUSION GPS HIRED
NELLIE OHR TO CONDUCT RESEARCH
OR VOLUNTARILY PROVIDED HIS
WIFE'S RESEARCH TO THE FBI BUT
THE FUSION GPS HEADER WAS
STRIPPED.
WHAT SEEMS TO BE A BACK CHANNEL
ONCE STEELE IS FIRED, THIS
INFORMATION WAS STILL FEEDING.
>> WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS AN
INCREDIBLY TANGLED WEB OF
CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
IT'S INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT
BRUCE OHR IS STILL IN THE JOB
AND HASN'T RECUSED HIMSELF WHEN
HIS WIFE, AS YOU SAY, IS WORKING
FOR THE OPPOSITION RESEARCH FIRM
FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND IS
TRANSMITTING INFORMATION WHICH
SHE THEN DELIVER LEE CONCEALS IN
TERMS OF ITS ORIGINS.
THE SECOND WHERE THE THING
THAT'S GOING ON HERE WHICH I
THINK GIVES A LOT OF FODDER TO
PEOPLE WHO THINK THERE'S A
DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY IS
BRUCE OHR IS A HIGH LEVEL
MANAGER IN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT.
HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
CONDUCTING DAILY CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE POTENTIAL SPY OR
SOURCE.
THAT'S WHERE THE FBI --
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR WAS
HANDING OFF CASH TO PUTIN
SECRETARY.
IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE A HIGH-RANKING JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL ESSENTIALLY
TRYING TO PRETEND HE'S
JAMES BOND.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT KIND OF
INVOLVEMENT, MAKES YOU THINK
SOMETHING ELSE'S GOING ON, THAT
THERE ARE A ULTERIOR MOTIVES.
THE LAST THING, I THINK IT'S
WORTH POINTING OUT IS I THINK
THERE IS STILL MORE TO COME, AS
YOU WERE SAYING.
THERE IS STILL SO MANY GAPS OF
INFORMATION THAT WE STILL NEED
TO KNOW AND I THINK THERE'S
GOING TO BE FURTHER
INVESTIGATIONS.
I THINK THESE PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE
WORRIED BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, A
LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS BEING
USED TO GET SURVEILLANCE
WARRANTS AND MISREPRESENTATIONS.
IT'S A CRIME.
>> Shannon: THE 302S, OHR SAYS
BE 21 IS WORRIED ABOUT
CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY THAT
FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY
WAS GOING TO GIVE.
JIM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE
ABLE TO READ THROUGH THAT OR
WHAT IT SIGNALED FOR YOU.
>> STEELE IS AN OPERATOR IN
EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD.
HE GOT FIRED FOR LEAKING TO THE
PRESS HIS OWN SELF-SERVING
STORIES.
HE'S VOUCHING FOR THE
UNWATCHABLE.
HE'S SAYING THIS DOSSIER IS TRUE
BUT BY THE WAY I HATE TRUMP.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN HIS
HEAD THAT SEEMS POLITICALLY
ORIENTED AS OPPOSED TO BEING
LAW ENFORCEMENT ORIENTED.
THE FACT THAT THE FBI STILL
WANTS TO CONNECT UP WITH HIM
AFTER HE'S BEEN FIRED FOR
LEAKING IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
WHERE WE ARE LEFT IS WE NEED TO
KNOW WHO ELSE WAS BEING TOLD
ABOUT STEELE AND ABOUT HIS
SHORTCOMINGS AS A SOURCE OF
INFORMATION?
AND WHY IN THE FISA APPLICATION
THAT JOHN MENTIONED DOES IT
LOWBALL THE BIAS OF THAT
PARTICULAR DOCUMENT QUESTION
MARKET MAY NOT DESTROY THE
PROBABLE CAUSE IN GENERAL BUT
THEY LOWBALLED IT AND KEPT IT IN
THE LOWBALL STATUS OF POSSIBLY
POLITICALLY ORIENTED.
SEVERAL REAPPLICATION'S.
THEY COULD'VE CORRECTED IT AT
ANY POINT OVER MONTHS.
THEY LET IT LIE AS IF IT WAS A
FAIRLY RELIABLE DOCUMENT.
>> Shannon: CATHERINE HERRIDGE
IS OFF BUT SHE'S LOOKING AT
THESE THINGS AND IN AN EMAIL SHE
SAYS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
CAUGHT HER ATTENTION IS WHY THE
FBI ONLY BEGAN DEBRIEFING OHR
AFTER THE ELECTION WHEN THEY
KNEW HE'D BEEN PROVIDING
INFORMATION ALL ALONG UP UNTIL
THEN.
>> IT'S REALLY WEIRD.
FIRST THEY ARE TALKING TO HIM
AFTER THE ELECTION.
SECONDLY HE IS STILL TALKING TO
STEELE UNTIL MUELLER IS
APPOINTED.
THAT'S EXTREMELY INAPPROPRIATE.
IT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THESE
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AREN'T
JUST INNOCENT MISTAKES BUT THEY
LOOK LIKE MORE COORDINATED
ACTIVITY TO TRY TO GATHER MORE
ANTI-TRUMP INFORMATION AND BREAK
THE NORMAL RULES.
>> Shannon: WE KNOW MORE IS
COMING.
SOMEONE TOLD ME TONIGHT THEY
THINK THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
HOROWITZ'S REPORT WILL LIKELY BE