>>> WELCOME BACK. THE PANEL IS HERE.
EDDIE GLAUDE JR. OF PRINCETON
UNIVERSITY, PEGGY NOONAN, NBC
NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
KRISTEN WELKER AND FORMER WHITE
HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY, ROBERT
GIBBS.
GIBBS. WELCOME, SIR, BEEN A LONG TIME
WITH YOU, MR. GIBBS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WEVE GOT A COUPLE OF SUPER
TUESDAY POLLS IM GOING TO THROW
IT OUT THERE.
IVE GOT NORTH CAROLINA AND TEXAS, PROBABLY AS GOOD OF
BELLWETHERS AS YOU CAN HAVE ON
THE FUTURE OF BOTH SANDERS AND
BIDEN N NORTH CAROLINA ITS
SANDERS WITH A TWO-POINT LEAD.
BASICALLY MARGIN OF ERROR.
LOOK AT THE BLOOMBERG NUMBER,
THOUGH.
THOUGH.
ADD UP BLOOMBERG AND BIDEN,
THATS AN INTERESTING NUMBER.
AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THIS
WAS DONE BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEBATE, SO
ONLY 36% THERE FOR BIDEN THAT. NUMBER COULD GROW. BIDEN THAT.
NUMBER COULD GROW. SHOWS YOU GROWTH POTENTIAL
THERE.
THERE.
LETS LOOK AT TEXAS.
BERNIE SANDERS A BIGGER LEAD HERE, DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD THANKS
MOSTLY, LOOK AT THE LATINO
SUPPORT SANDERS IS GETTING HERE.
46%.
46%.
THIS IS WHATS INTERESTING HERE,
EDDIE GLAUDE JR.
WE MAY BE SEEING THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY BASICALLY SPLIT RIGHT IN HALF WITH TWO DIFFERENTIGHT IN
HALF WITH TWO DIFFERENT COALITION.
COALITION.
BERNIE SANDERS LEADING A
LIBERAL, LATINO COALITION AND
JOE BIDEN LEADING A MODERATE, AFRICAN-AMERICAN COALITION.E,
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COALITION. >> THAT IS SO FASCINATING FOR
ME, MIND BLOWING ACTUALLY.
IN SOME WAYS I WOULD HAVE NEVER
IMAGINED, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND
THE DATA, THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS
WOULD IN SOME WAYS BE THE
FIREWALL FOR THE MODERATE WING
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
TO ME THAT IS JUST STUNNING
NEWS.
NEWS.
BUT LETS BE CLEAR.
I THINK WERE IN THE SOUTH. SOUTH CAROLINA IS A UNIQUE
SPACE.
SPACE.
SO TO THINK ABOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE AS
MONOLITHIC IN THAT WAY, WE NEED
TO BE CAREFUL THERE,
PARTICULARLY AS WE MOVE OUT OF A
PARTICULAR SIDE OF THE SOUTH.
BUT LETS BE CLEAR HERE TOO.
LATINO VOTERS, THAT TIME BOMB
THAT EVERYONE THOUGHT WAS ABOUT
TO EXPLODE HAS EXPLODED.
WELL SEE THEM HAVING AN IMPACT
ON THE ELECTION --
>> ITS THE WEST VERSUS THE
SOUTH.
SOUTH.
>> EXACTLY.
>> AND ITS GOING TO CLASH RIGHT
IN TEXAS, PEGGY.
>> ITS -- ITS INTERESTING, TO
SAY THE LEAST. I ALSO THOUGHT THE TRUEST WORDS
JOE BIDEN SAID WHEN HE MADE HIS
VICTORY SPEECH LAST NIGHT WERE
TO JIM CLYBURN WHEN HE SAID
ESSENTIALLY THANK YOU FOR SAVING
ME.
ME.
HE DID. AND NOT ONLY --
>> NOT ONLY DID HE JUST SAY
YOURE WELCOME, AND IVE GOT
SOME THINGS TO SAY.
>> ITS VERY CLEAR.
SO NOT ONLY AS EDDIE SAYS DID WE
SEE A FIREWALL SAVING A MODERATE
DEMOCRAT, BUT WE SAW, I THINK, A
LEADER IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT
THERES A SENSE IN AMERICA
SOMETIMES THAT ESTABLISHMENTS
AND AUTHORITIES ARE LOSING THEIR
CLOUT.
CLOUT.
BUT JIM CLYBURN CAME FORWARD THE OTHER DAY AND HE SAID IM GOINGHE
OTHER DAY AND HE SAID IM GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT I WANT YOU TO
DO, AND PEOPLE LISTENED,
CONSIDERED AND DID IT.
WE SAW IN THE EXIT POLLS.
HALF THE PEOPLE LEAVING SAID I
LISTENED.
LISTENED.
KIND OF TOUCHING IN A WAY. >> AND MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE
SAID THEY WANTED TO KEEP OBAMAS
POLICIES INTACT, SO AT LEAST IN
SOME PLACES THIS IS STILL
OBAMAS DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE QUESTION IS DOES THAT HOLD
IN NORTH CAROLINA.
AND WHAT, IF ANY, BOUNCE IS
BIDEN GOING TO GET IN PLACES
LIKE NORTH CAROLINA AND TEXAS.
BUT, OF COURSE, THE UNKNOWN ALSO
IS EARLY VOTING.
YOUVE HAD FOLKS WHO HAVE
ALREADY GONE OUT AND CAST THEIR
BALLOTS BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA.
>> TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA THE TWO
BIGGEST ONES THERE.
ALL RIGHT, ROBERT, HAS BIDEN -- HE WANTS TO SAY THIS IS ADEN --
HE WANTS TO SAY THIS IS A
TWO-PERSON RACE.
I THINK HE COULD SWEEP THE SOUTH.K HE COULD SWEEP THE
SOUTH.
I MEAN ITS POSSIBLE, NORTH
CAROLINA WILL BE THE TOUGHEST ONE.LINA WILL BE THE TOUGHEST
ONE.
>> YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YOU JUST SHOWED AND YOUVE GOTS YOU
JUST SHOWED AND YOUVE GOT BLOOMBERG AT 15% RIGHT AT THAT
VIABILITY LINE.
VIABILITY LINE. SO LAST NIGHTS WIN AND THAT
MOMENTUM PUSH A COUPLE OF POINTS
UP FOR VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
PUSH BLOOMBERG DOWN A COUPLE OF
POINTS?
POINTS?
DO YOU FORCE THAT ONE-ON-ONE CONTEST THROUGH VIABILITY?NE
CONTEST THROUGH VIABILITY? I THINK JOE BIDENS STRATEGY HAS
TO BE TO SURVIVE THE BIG STATES
OF NORTH CAROLINA AND TEXAS AND
WAKE UP AS THE SOULLE COMPETITOR
TO BERNIE SANDERS.
>> CAN WE FLIP THE SCRIPT HERE
AND TALK ABOUT BERNIE. EDDIE, THE BERNIE SOUTH CAROLINA
RESULT HAS TO BE REALLY
DISAPPOINTING INTO SANDERS.
THEY DID PUT SOME EFFORT INTO
HERE.
HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE MADE NO PROGRESS TO WIN OVERAVE MADE NO
PROGRESS TO WIN OVER AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS FROM
FOUR YEARS AGO.
IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE THEY MADE
MUCH.
MUCH.
>> LOOK, WE CANT UNDERESTIMATE CLYBURNS ENDORSEMENT IN SOUTHE
CLYBURNS ENDORSEMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
CAROLINA.
THATS THE FIRST THING.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT I BELIEVE SOUTH CAROLINA PROVIDED
THE BEST LITMUS TESTS FOR THE
SANDERS CLAIM THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO EXPAND THE ELECTORATE.
ITS A SATURDAY VOTE.
>> NO EXCUSE.
>> SO ITS A SATURDAY VOTE.
THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE GROUND.
SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS TO
SEE HOW YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICANS
VOTED, HOW YOUNG COLLEGE
STUDENTS VOTED.
STUDENTS VOTED. >> HE DIDNT WIN YOUNG
AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
AFRICAN-AMERICANS. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY.
SO, AGAIN, WE MIGHT HAVE TO KIND OF ATTRIBUTE IT TO THEVE TO KIND
OF ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA
ELECTORATE.
ELECTORATE.
BUT SANDERS AND HIS CAMPAIGN, THEY HAVE TO BE CONCERNED.GN,
THEY HAVE TO BE CONCERNED. I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS MARGIN.
I SAID EXPLICITLY ITS NOT GOING
TO BE 15, 16%.
>> YOURE RIGHT, IT WASNT 15%
OR 16%.
OR 16%. IT WAS MORE THAN THAT.
>> SO WE HAVE TO REALLY TEST THE
CLAIM.
CLAIM.
WILL THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN
ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD ON ITS CLAIM THEYRE GOING TO EXPANDING THEIM
THEYRE GOING TO EXPANDING THE ELECTORATE.
ELECTORATE.
>> PEGGY, I WANT TO PUT UP TWO
PIECES OF WRITING.
YOURE THE BEST WRITER HERE. ONE IS MAKING THE AENGT SANDERS
ARGUMENT AND THE PRO SANDERS
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT.
IF MR. SANDERS BECOMES THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, VOTERS WILL
HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM A RIGHT WING
POPULIST AND A LEFT WING
POPULIST WHO PLACES BUSINESS FOR
EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH
THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. WAKE UP, AMERICA, THESE ARE THE
BRITS TELLING US.
NOW, HERES "THE NEW YORK
TIMES."
TIMES."
AT THE END OF THE DAY SANDERS IS THE ONLY DAY WHO CAN UNITE THEIS
THE ONLY DAY WHO CAN UNITE THE ANTI-TRUMP MAJORITY WITH HIS
FORCEFUL ATTACKS ON CORRUPTION
AND BIGOTRY.
AND BIGOTRY. HE CAN SPEAK TO THE CONCERNS
ABOUT TRUMPS CHARACTER AND
PERSONALITY THAT HAVE ALIENATED
SUBURBAN WHITES AND HELPED GIVE
THE DEMOCRATS THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
REPRESENTATIVES.
BOTH THEEFZOF THESE THINGS RANG TO ME.HEEFZOF THESE THINGS RANG
TO ME.
IN A WEIRD WAY THEY BOTH RANG TRUE TO ME.WAY THEY BOTH RANG
TRUE TO ME. >> WERE IN AN UNPRECEDENTED
TIME, A GREAT POLITICAL PARTY,
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, FEELS THAT
IT IS MAKING SOME FATEFUL
DECISIONS HERE BETWEEN ARE WE
GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE
INTERESTED IN A SOCIALIST OR
SOCIAL DEMOCRAT FUTURE OR ARE WE
GOING TO STAY KIND OF WHERE WE
HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST 20 OR 30
YEARS.
YEARS.
ITS A BIG DECISION.
IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH LEFT AND
RIGHT AND WITH INTERESTING
COALITIONS.
IT IS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT
BERNIE.
I SAW HIS SPEECH LAST NIGHT AFTER BIDEN WON. LAST NIGHT
AFTER BIDEN WON. BERNIE DOES NOT DO HAPPY
WARRIOR.
WARRIOR. HE DOESNT COME FORWARD AND SAY
WERE GOING TO FIGHT AND DO ALL
THAT STUFF.
THAT STUFF.
I MENTIONED THIS TO A YOUNG JOURNALIST. THIS TO A YOUNG
JOURNALIST.
I SAID HE DOESNT DO HAPPY WARRIOR.E DOESNT DO HAPPY
WARRIOR.
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, BOOMERS LIKE
HAPPY WARRIORS. HES NOT GOING FOR BOOMERS.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THIS
IS THE BARACK OBAMA ISSUE WITH
SANDERS.
SANDERS.
HE DOESNT LIKE THE TONE, EVEN THOUGH HES IMPRESSED WITH THE
MOVEMENT.
MOVEMENT.
IS THAT FAIR?
>> THATS A GOOD QUESTION.
AND YOU ALWAYS SEE BERNIE DESCRIBE IT AS A MOVEMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
WRITTEN THERE, THOUGH, WHEN WE
PEEL BACK SOME OF THE RESULTS IN
SOUTH CAROLINA, THERES A BIG
SUBURBAN VOTE YESTERDAY,
PARTICULARLY IN THE CHARLESTON
AREA.
AREA.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN GOING
FORWARD?
AGAIN, IS SOUTH CAROLINA UNIQUE?
IS IT BECAUSE OF THE
RELATIONSHIP THAT IT HAS WITH
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN?
OR DOES IT TELL US SOMETHING
GOING FORWARD?
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE.
I DONT KNOW THAT WELL KNOW FOR
A WHILE.
>> TURNOUT, IT WAS GOOD, NOT
GREAT.
>> GOOD, NOT GREAT.
IT WAS BETTER AS 2016, NOT AS
STRONG AS 2008. I DID TALK TO DEMOCRATS WHO SAID
THEY WERE ENCOURAGED BY THE
TURNOUT.
TURNOUT.
BIG QUESTION FOR CANDIDATES LIKE BUTTIGIEG.ON FOR CANDIDATES LIKE
BUTTIGIEG.
WHATS THE PATH?
HE COULDNT NAME ONE STATE, CHUCK, ON SUPER TUESDAY THAT HE