>>> I WILL TELL YOU, IT’S THREE AGENCY OF GOVERNMENT WHEN I GET
THERE THAT ARE GONE.
COMMERCE, EDUCATION, AND THE --
WHAT’S THE THIRD ONE THERE?
LET’S SEE.
LET’S SEE. OH, FIVE.
OH, FIVE. COMMERCE, EDUCATION, AND THE,
UM.
UM. >> YOU CAN’T NAME THE THIRD ONE.
>> THE THIRD AGENCY OF
GOVERNMENT I WOULD DO AWAY WITH,
THE EDUCATION, THE -- COMMERCE,
AND LET’S SEE.
I CAN’T.
I CAN’T. THE THIRD ONE, I CAN’T.
SORE.
SORE. OOPS.
OOPS. >> OOPS.
>> OOPS. IT MIGHT SEEM HARD TO BELIEVE
NOW, BUT THERE WAS A POINT BACK
IN 2012 WHERE RICK PERRY WAS A
FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. AT ONE POINT, PERRY HELD THE
LEAD IN MORE THAN 15 STRAIGHT
NATIONAL POLLS.
NATIONAL POLLS. THAT IS UNTIL THE OOPS MOMENTS
STARTED TO PILE UP.
HE TOOK A SECOND STAB AT IT IN
2016.
2016. THE ONLY PROBLEM, HE WAS THE
SAME RICK PERRY.
>> JOINING ME NOW IS FORMER
TEXAS GOVERNOR, RICK PERRY.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE NEWS ON THE
REAL STORY.
REAL STORY. IS DONALD TRUMP RIGHT?
ARE YOU GETTING OUT OF THE RACE?
>> YOU KNOW, A BROKEN CLOCK IS
RIGHT ONCE A DAY.
>> A BROKEN CLOCK IS RIGHT TWICE
A DAY.
A DAY. RICK PERRY WAS THE FIRST
CANDIDATE TO DROPOUT OF THE
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
FOLLOWING THE DEPARTURE FROM THE
RACE.
RACE. RACHEL AND TEAM MADDOW STARTED A
TRADITION ON THIS SHOW WHERE BY
CANDIDATES GOT POOFED WHEN THEY
CALLED IT QUITS.
RICK PERRY WAS THE FIRST AND 10
DAYS LATER, SCOTT WALKER AND
MADDOWLAND POOFED OUR WAY
THROUGH THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.
POOF!
POOF! POOF!
POOF! WITH RACHEL OUT, I HAVE THE
HONOR OF POOFING THE FIRST
CANDIDATE.
CANDIDATE. ERIC SWALWELL ANNOUNCED HE IS
ENDING HIS PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. HE WILL FOCUS ON HIS REELECTION
BID AS HE LOOKS TO SERVE A FIFTH
TERM IN CONGRESS.
THAT MASSIVE PRIMARY FIELD GOT
ONE PERSON SMALLER.
AS A RESULT ERIC SWALWELL IS
GOING BYE-BYE FROM THE BIG
BOARD.
BOARD. THREE, TWO, ONE.
POOF!
POOF! THERE HE GOES.
THERE HAVE BEEN THREE MAJOR
CHANGES IN THE 2020 RACE.
THE FIRST AS WE SHOWED YOU IS
THE FIELD AS NARROWED FOR THE
TIME BEING.
TIME BEING. THE SECOND IS THAT SENATOR
ELIZABETH WARREN TURNED INTO A
MASSIVE FUND-RAISING HAUL IN THE
SECOND QUARTER DESPITE HOLDING
NO FUND-RAISERS.
NO FUND-RAISERS. SHE ANNOUNCED THE CAMPAIGN
BROUGHT IN $19 MILLION OVER THE
PAST THREE MONTHS.
THAT’S QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE
OTHER CANDIDATE, MAKING BIG
POLLING MOVES THIS WEEK AND
KAMALA HARRIS MADE $12 MILLION.
IT PUTS SENATOR WARREN AHEAD OF
BERNIE SANDERS, THE ONLY OTHERS
TO HAVE SPURNED CLOSED DOOR
FUND-RAISERS.
FUND-RAISERS. WARREN BROUGHT IN MORE THAN
SANDER THIS IS QUARTER.
IN FACT, SHE PULLED IN NEARLY AS
MUCH MONEY AS FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND AGAIN,
SHE DID IT WITHOUT HOLDING ANY
FUND-RAISERS.
FUND-RAISERS. INSTEAD FOCUSING ON A SMALL ARMY
OF SMALL DONORS.
SHE MORE THAN TRIPLED HER
FUND-RAISING TOTAL.
FUND-RAISING TOTAL. WARREN’S BIG HAUL COMES AMID A
SHIFTING POWER DYNAMIC THAT
PRODUCED A THIRD BIG CHANGE.
JOE BIDEN SHIFTED GEARS AND
APOLOGIZED FOR COMMENTS HE MADE
NEARLY TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT
WORKING WITH SEGREGATIONISTS.
HERE HE WAS THIS WEEKEND IN
SOUTH CAROLINA.
SOUTH CAROLINA. >> WAS I WRONG A FEW WEEKS AGO
TO SOMEHOW GIVE THE IMPRESSION
TO PEOPLE THAT I WAS PRAISING
THE MAN I SUCCESSFULLY OPPOSED
TIME AND AGAIN?
WELL, YES.
WELL, YES. I WAS.
I WAS. I REGRET IT.
I’M SORRY FOR ANY OF THE PAIN OR
MISCONCEPTION I MAY HAVE CAUSED
ANYBODY.
ANYBODY. >> BIDEN’S RECORD WAS CALLED
INTO QUESTION AND SENATOR HARRIS
HAD THIS TO SAY.
>> I THINK HE IS RIGHT TO
RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT OF HIS
WORDS.
WORDS. I APPLAUD HIM FOR HAVING THE
COURAGE TO DO IT.
THERE IS A POINT OF DISAGREEMENT
BETWEEN HE AND I AND THAT
REMAINS, BUT I APPLAUD HIS
COURAGE ABOUT SEGREGATIONISTS.
>> HOW DOES ALL OF THIS CHANGE
THE RACE GOING FORWARD?
CHIEF PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER FOR
MOVEON.ORG.
MOVEON.ORG. ALWAYS GREAT TO TALK TO YOU.
I WANT TO START WITH ERIC
SWALWELL.
SWALWELL. LET ME PLAY WHAT ERIC SWALWELL
HAD TO SAY OUT OF THE RACE.
>> THE POLLING WASN’T MOVING
AFTER THE DEBATES AND THE DONOR
NUMBER WAS GOING UP, BUT IT WAS
NEVER GOING REACH THE POINT
WHERE WE COULD QUALIFY FOR THE
SEPTEMBER DEBATE.
SEPTEMBER DEBATE. THAT’S 130,000.
THAT’S 130,000. I WILL BE HONEST.
I WELCOME THE THRESHOLDS.
AS SOMEONE WHO IS PUTTING
EVERYTHING INTO IT AND EXPECTING
YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR STAFF TO
PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT, WE
DIDN’T WANT TO SCREW AROUND
HERE.
HERE. WE WANTED TO GROW WITH THE
THRESHOLDS AND IF WE DIDN’T, WE
WERE GOING TO GET OUT.
THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE FAIR AND
IT’S THE BEST WAY TO NARROW THE
FIELD.
FIELD. >> WILL MORE PEOPLE CATCH THE
REALISM BUG AND MOVE OUT OF THE
RACE.
RACE. >> CAN I JUST SAY POOF, JOY?
POOF!
POOF! SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WITH ERIC SWALWELL, LOOK, THERE
IS NOT ENOUGH OXYGEN IN THE
ROOM.
ROOM. YOU HAVE 20 PLUS CANDIDATES.
DONALD TRUMP TAKES ABOUT 90% OF
THE MEDIA POLITICAL TIME AND THE
REST HAVE TO DIVVY UP 10% OF
THAT.
THAT. 20 SOME ODD OF THEM.
AFTER A WHILE, IF YOU CAN’T GET
ON THE NEWS AND YOU CAN’T PUSH
OUT YOUR AGENDA BECAUSE OF OTHER
CANDIDATES, YOUR MONEY DRIES UP
AND YOU CAN’T MOVE UP IN THE
POLLS.
POLLS. IT’S NOT SURPRISEDING.
ERIC SWALWELL IS 38 YEARS OLD.
HE WAS ABLE TO PUT OUT HIS
PLATFORM IN FRONT OF 18 MILLION
PEOPLE WHICH WAS THE GUN REFORM.
HE GOT SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
HE GOT HIMSELF IN THERE FOR A
LITTLE BIT AND HE GOES BACK AND
HE RUNS A REELECTION.
AS WE GET CLOSER AND MORE AND
MORE DEBATES UNDER PEOPLE’S
BELTS, IT’S HARDER TO GET ON THE
DEBATES.
DEBATES. THE THRESHOLDS WILL CHANGE.
AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
THIRD DEBATE IS GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT TO GET ON.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE A KIND OF
DWINDLING DOWN OF THE RACE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO TALK MONEY IN
A MINUTE, BUT THERE IS TWO COL
RAD ANS AND TWO TEXANS.
AT A CERTAIN POINT THE DONOR
BASE IS AN ATTRITION WITHIN THE
STATES.
STATES. THIS IS ONE LESS CALIFORNIAN.
>> EXCELLENT POINT.
ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE
PLAYS THAT JULIAN CASTRO WAS
DOING AT THE DEBATE TWO WEEKS
AGO WAS HE WENT AFTER A TEXAN.
AFTER SOMEONE IN HIS OWN STATE
WHICH WAS BETO O’ROURKE.
HE WENT AFTER HIM PRETTY HARD.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE STRATEGY
THAT JULIAN CASTRO WAS THINKING
ABOUT, LET ME GET SOMEONE WHO IS
IN MY SPACE TALKING ABOUT
IMMIGRATION REFORM FROM A BIG
STATE LIKE TEXAS.
JULIAN CASTRO WOULD NEED TO DO
WELL IN WITH THE LATINO VOTERS
AS SEEMS TO BE HIS PLAY.
HE WENT AFTER BETO O’ROURKE
WHICH WAS A SMART STRATEGY.
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES A
LOT OF SENSE.
YOU HAVE ONE LESS CALIFORNIAN IN
THE RACE.
THE RACE. THERE IS NO COMPETITION THERE
FOR KAMALA HARRIS, ASSUMING
THERE WAS ANY REAL COMPETITION.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. SUPER TUESDAY.
SUPER TUESDAY. LET’S TALK ABOUT THE MONEY.
THE BIG HAUL BY ELIZABETH
WARREN, BIG DEAL THAT SHE WAS
ABLE TO RAISE THAT MUCH MONEY
WITHOUT BIG TICKET FUND-RAISERS.
>> THAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU,
ELIZABETH WARREN IS CHANGING THE
GAME ON ALL LEVELS WITH THE PLAN
LEANING IN WITH HER PLANS AND
TALKING ABOUT RACIAL INEQUALITY
AS A WHITE CANDIDATE.
IT’S INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE.
$19.1 MILLION WITHOUT BIG FUND
RAISERS, THIS IS A GRASS ROOTS
OPERATION SHE IS RUNNING.
THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT
AMAZING IS A MAJORITY OF HER
DONORS HAVE NOT MAXED OUT.
SHE GETS TO GO BACK AND GET MORE
MONEY FROM THEM.
THEY ARE NOT FROM THE UPPER EAST
SIDE OR THE UPPER WEST SIDE OR
HOLLYWOOD HILLS.
HOLLYWOOD HILLS. THEY ARE FROM ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. SHE IS ENERGIZING THE BASE.
THAT’S WHAT YOU NEED TO BE
DOING.
DOING. SO SHE IS NUMBER ONE, A REALLY
DIRECT COMPETITION.
DIRECT COMPETITION. HE WILL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
CONTINUE AND SHE IS ALSO UP
THERE AS A REAL COMPETITOR WITH
THE FUND-RAISING AND THE
POLLING.
POLLING. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE GUY WHO
IS NUMBER ONE IN THE POLLING.
JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN. DO YOU THINK HE TURNED THE
CORNER DURING THE DEBATE?
>> I’LL SAY THIS.
BLACK VOTERS UNDERSTAND ONE
THING.
THING. THEY UNDERSTAND HOW DANGEROUS
DONALD TRUMP IS.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE HATRED AND
THE BIGOTRY AND THE OUTRIGHT
RACISM.
RACISM. THAT IS NOT SURPRISE WHY WE SEE
BLACK VOTERS, ONE OF THE NUMBER
ONE THINGS THEY CARE ABOUT IS TO
BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN 2020.
WHEN THE TWO THINGS THAT BIDEN
HAD TO DEAL WITH AFTER THIS
DEBATE WAS NUMBER ONE, HE SHOWED
HIS VULNERABILITY ON RACE.
NUMBER TWO, HE PUT THAT DOUBT IN
PEOPLE’S MIND, WHICH WAS CAN HE
BEAT DONALD TRUMP?
THAT’S A VERY DANGEROUS DOUBT TO
PUT IN PEOPLE’S MINDS WHEN YOU
ARE THE FRONT-RUNNER AND RUNNING
THIS ELECTABILITY GENERAL
ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
ELECTION CAMPAIGN. YOU SAW THAT IN THE POLLS.
IT WAS AN AVERAGE OF SIX POINTS
HE WAS GOING DOWN IN POLLING.
WHO ARE HIS COMMUNITY THAT IS
LIFTING HIM UP AND BEING A
FRONT-RUNNER AND
FRONT-RUNNER AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS.
AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. FOR HIM IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT HE
APOLOGIZED FOR PRAISING
SEGREGATIONISTS.
SEGREGATIONISTS. IT TOOK THREE WEEKS AND HE TOOK
A LOT OF BODY BLOWS AND IT WAS
SHOWING IN THE POLLS.
>> FOR TOOK A WHILE, BUT WE
SHALL SEE FROM HERE.
>> POOF!
>> POOF! >> I WILL MAKE YOU POOF IN A
LOVING WAY.
LOVING WAY. TALK TO YOU LATER.
POOF.
POOF. NOW WE HAVE A TON OF SHOW AHEAD.
ONE PERSON WHOSE DIARY OF NOTES
WAS CITED ALMOST 70 TIMES IN THE
MUELLER REPORT.