chaffetz you it's great to have you back
on jason you just heard kevin mccarthy
talk about inflation democrats are
downplaying that but fed chair jerome
powell says it's an issue so does larry
summers so does robert rubin so does
warren buffett what do you
say well anybody who drives a car goes
to the gas station is going to figure
out that four to five dollar gasoline is
a lot more expensive than the two bucks
it was with trump and you go to the
grocery store and other things you you
see things that aren't available you try
to order appliances and other things
beds they take months to get there
and the president doesn't have a plan
and when you go forward and say well
those concerns are real i don't know of
anybody who's concerned about it this is
the same white house that was bragging
that your barbecue at uh fourth of july
was going to cost 16 cents less than it
did the year before so that their
perspective on reality is questionable
at best
you know we hear you on that we're
looking through the pages of this 2700
page bill and they've got you know
billions of dollars to upgrade things
like the ports of entry things for
furniture and fixtures and computers but
nothing for the border wall you know
what republicans and border officials
say have worked and other countries in
europe have border walls in africa they
have border walls in in south america
they have border walls asia russia i
mean so when you look through this and
you see what the infighting is with the
house speaker pelosi can't wrangle the
far left can't get the moderates uh you
know to you know basically on board
either with what her plans are is mitch
mcconnell senator mitch mcconnell is he
being really clever here because he's
basically saying look at we have to have
all senators from all 50 states look at
this infrastructure deal and they've got
to put their
say so on it it seems like he may be
delaying this to push back on the three
and a half trillion dollar human
infrastructure bill that the far left
wants what do you say
well it represents everything that's
wrong in washington d.c look you had 16
to 17 republican senators vote to
proceed on a bill that had never been
written there was literally no text to
it so when you hear good people like
senator tim scott saying i can't in good
conscience vote for this because there's
no text to look at yet they voted to
proceed now it's out there now we can
actually see in the light of day let's
actually digest and figure out what's
actually in there but what's wrong about
this is the pay force are fake uh some
of them are real but most of them are
fake to take for instance from the
strategic petroleum reserve when you cut
off accessing
oil and gas on public lands you shut
down the keystone pipeline and then you
say you're going to sell sell your
strategic petroleum reserve levels and
bring those down what's the president
what are republicans doing in that
regard so you have to have some sort
balance here liz it has to have a
discussion about it
yeah let's stick on that because roll
call and we've been saying this too the
house democrat margin of power and
control is so it's so slim it would take
just three to four house moderate
democrats to say no to nancy pelosi here
so the strong-armed tactics weren't
justified to begin with what with nancy
pelosi was doing think she can't she can
lose no more than three democrats on
party-line votes or this whole thing
falls apart now you've got senators joe
manchin saying you know what i'm not
going to guarantee that separate three
and a half trillion dollar budget
reconciliation bill that that will pass
and alexander cortez saying we're going
to then block infrastructure it just
seems like the strong arm tactics were
not the way to go when you don't have
the mandate you don't have the margin of
control just three votes and it's three
or four votes and it's done it's over
yeah you're absolutely right get three
or four democrats together and they can
they can stop this whole thing the
promise of joe biden and kamala harris
is they were going to bring together the
country they're going to bring together
the congress but they haven't been able
to do that they don't even pretend to do
that in the house of representatives
with inviting republicans to come in and
offer and acquiesce to some of their
concerns give credit to donald trump and
what was going on before because he
actually passed a lot of bills that had
some good buy bipartisan support moving
forward so um it is
but even under the trump era that wasn't
a lot right
given what's going on well but they did
get some they did get some important
they did get some important things done
the first co first few coveted relief
bills were widely bipartisan now they're
just partisan bills and it's out of
control that way
got it jason chaffetz thanks for joining
us it's good to have you on
okay