We need to be focused more on stopping things before they happen.
This isn't something that we're having a conversation about right now and
it should be.
It immediately becomes about democrats wanting to take away guns.
Go look at the hearing that they had last week.
>> Yeah.
>> In Congress.
I mean, you had members, democrats cursing out the Second Amendment.
The Second Amendment is not some guideline.
It's part of the United States constitution and the bill of rights.
And it's there for a reason by the way, every day in America.
>> Okay, so that is Steve Scalise over the weekend talking about how the democrats
coming out of the Vivaldi shooting, the buffalo shootings and
the 10 other mass shootings that happened over the weekend.
The many constant mass shootings.
They just wanna take your guns.
But no, we have a Second Amendment, and thus you have rights.
Now, if I seem bored with the argument he's making,
it is because it is identical to what people like him and
other republicans will say in the wake of every mass shooting.
And yet two factors in theory could have influenced this.
The first is that this is supposed to be a different time, right?
I mean, you baldy was so horrifying.
Obviously, the right has to change, and
Steve Scalise was himself shot in a mass shooting.
Neither of those things produced any difference.
That could have been a video of him responding to any of the hundreds of mass
shootings of the past two years.
And there would be no difference whatsoever.
The fact that he himself was a victim of a mass shooting and how horrifying
these recent ones have been, produced no change whatsoever Francesca.
>> No, I mean, it reminds you of Herman Cain, right?
Remember that guy who died for Donald Trump's lies about COVID-19,
as he continued to campaign for him.
I mean, there is no clearer argument for the Republican Party
being a death cult than their approach to literal issues of life and
death, like gun laws and gun safety or Covid 19.
They don't care.
They are sacrificial lambs to their ideological lines.
So it's so funny when you're like, you call democrats partisan hacks,
like republicans are so, they have every partisan hack beat.
Because they will throw their wives, children and
themselves under the bus in order to stick with that line.
Which is that somehow red flagging someone who is a domestic abuser or
whatever, I don't know, did something awful
to somebody that we should prevent that person from getting guns.
I mean, it's crazy and you're like, you realize this would apply to all people.
It's not just domestic violence.
Let's say you don't care about women.
Okay, that's fine.
No, tight tight, I agree.
Most republicans probably don't necessarily, especially politicians.
What about someone who like shoplifts?
Right, what about a crime that feels more like it's targeting the poor?
What if we add that to it?
You know what I'm saying, which I'm fine with, let's add all a bunch of like,
sort of suspect behavior to a no by gun list, right?
Maybe they would be on board with that.
It's just so obvious and actually very revealing in terms of the vast
majority of whether they see gun violence in their own communities?
Whether they feel at risk for gun violence?
Or whether they're actually like they always do protecting predators,
whether it's whatever kind maybe including their most famous Donald Trump.
>> Yeah, well, look, you pointed out,
that in theory we could have laws that are sort of looking into people's behavior and
affect him, but he's not even in support of that Steve Scalise.
We're not just talking about him opposing like an assault rifles ban,
Steve Scalise again,
a victim of a mass shooting says that the red flag laws take away due process.
Now, I believe it was John Roberts, I think it might have been on Fox, he says.
But if that had been the case in Buffalo, 10 people would be alive today, and
possibly in Uvalde as well.
He had apparently made threats and stuff, maybe he wouldn't have been able to buy
a gun, and Scalise again, victim of a mass shooting says, well, again,
due process is a constitutional, right?
Okay, the red flag law doesn't execute you, like you still have due process.
It only becomes a process with the red flag law.
Otherwise, the process is just that they buy the gun and they go on the massacre.
This allows for a process to adjudicate if you should have it, to talk to the person,
perhaps interview them.
He doesn't want due process, he wants no process.
He wants you to process the purchase of an AR15.
That's what he's concerned with.
So again, we can't even get that.
And I know like he's obviously on the wrong side,
you have politicians who are theoretically on the right side.
Chris Murphy says a lot of good things about guns.
He says, I've never been part of negotiations as serious as these.
There are more republicans at the table than at any time since Sandy Hook.
Good, he immediately goes on to say, we're not going to do everything I want.
We're not gonna put a piece of legislation on the table that will ban assault weapons
or pass comprehensive background checks.
>> [LAUGH] >> The list of like, hey everybody,
it can't be pie in the sky like an assault weapons ban and
literally just background checks.
That's considered radical now at this point.
>> Yeah. >> 81% in the most recent CBS news poll
support the background checks, 72% support federal red flag laws,
62% support a nationwide ban on the air 15.
These are not radical positions,
being opposed to all of these reforms in the wake of so much constant bloodshed.
That is the radical position,
we can't let them even believe that they're winning the rhetorical battle here
because that is not where the American people actually are.
>> To say nothing of the context of roe v wade being currently on the chopping
block as we talk about how much of an infringement it would be to make
a gun owner have a background check before they buy an AR15?
You know how terrible would be to limit the number of AR15 they could get,
but what a woman.
My God, you don't wanna be a parent yet.
God, your uterus, my God, your own body growing another life inside of it.
Yeah, you're gonna have to wait and oops!
The window is closed and now actually, no, in fact there was never a window.
You just can't, you have to have that baby.
Like, are you kidding me?
Way more restrictions on women's bodies.
Way more restrictions.
And again look out, man, I'm calling it the summer of rage.
Women, people with uteruses are not gonna take this anymore.
And like I just, the irony, it's the same,
John you pointed it out during Covid as it continues to persist.
But like the irony of anti maskers saying I can't
breathe when George Floyd is also was murdered.
>> Yeah. >> And that's what hey care about,
less about black lives and more about the fact that they have to put a stupid piece
of cloth over their stupid faces.
Were in that same moment, you care more about your guns than you do about people
having autonomy over their own bodies.
>> Yeah. >> It's just so perfect.
Yeah, women, people of color, no, they can die, they're fine,
comfortable, privileged white person, minimally inconvenienced.
God.
>> 100%, yeah, 100%.
Although honestly, when having to choose between the guns and the inconvenience,
they are in this case choosing guns over many of the inconveniences that they would
push off on to kids.
The only having one door or whatever, no windows that open,
having to use ballistic blankets and the constant training.
And all of that stuff that they would put on two kids that is acceptable because
that in their mind allows them to keep having their guns.
The masks that was too much government only having one door and having,
I don't know, Taser drones or whatever that's acceptable.
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