WAS IN THOSE -- WHAT WAS IN THE
RAILCARS.
>> Jesse: LET’S BRING IN THE
MAYOR OF EAST PALESTINE AND
LENNY KAYLEIGH McENANY.
CLAY VENTRICLE.
THEY BOTH MET WITH ALAN SHAW
OVER THE WEEKEND.
TRENT, THIS GUY DODGED THE TOWN
HALL HE SAID HE WAS TOO SCARED
TO SHOW UP.
HE FINALLY SHOWED UP AFTER A LOT
OF PUBLIC PRESSURE ALL WEEK HOW
DID IT GO WHETHER YOU WERE ONE
ON ONE WITH HIM.
>> HE SEEMED SINCERE IT SEEMED
LIKE HE CARED.
RIGHT NOW THAT’S THE ONLY
THING -- IS IT COMFORTING?
NO, YOU KNOW.
WE HAVE TO TRUST HIM RIGHT NOW.
AS SOON AS HE DOES ANYTHING THAT
WE FEEL WE CAN’T TRUST I HAVE GO
BACK TO MEDIA GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS HIGHER TO ME MAKE HIM
DO WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO
DO.
>> Jesse: YOU TELL ME FIRST OF
ALL IF HE DOES ANYTHING AND WE
WILL BLOW IT UP.
SO, LENNY, THIS GUY AS I SAID
RAN AWAY AND THEN HE CAME BACK,
WAS HE SURROUNDED BY GUYS WITH
A.R. 15s?
HE SAID HE WAS FEARFUL OF HIS
LIFE.
THAT’S WHY HE BAILED ON THE
FIRST TOWN HALL.
>> NO.
I MEAN, HE WASN’T SURROUNDED BY
ANYBODY LIKE THAT.
I FEEL AS IF HE CAME, YOU KNOW,
AS HONEST AS HE COULD, YOU KNOW.
I WOULDN’T WANT TO BE IN ALAN’S
SHOES, YOU KNOW.
THERE’S A LOT OF NEGATIVITY
AROUND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW AND,
FOR HIM TO SHOW FACE AFTER WE
ASKED HIM TO COME DOWN, YOU KNOW
THAT’S A START.
HE CAME TO THE COMMUNITY, FIRST
RESPONDERS.
MAYOR TRENT HE TALKED TO MYSELF.
HE GAVE ME THE TIME THAT I ASKED
FOR I ASKED HIM TO COME OMAN TO
MAN AND TALK TO ME AND WE STOOD
NOSE TO NOSE.
I THANK HIM FOR THAT BUT, YOU
KNOW, YOU CAN’T REALLY TRUST ANY
MAN, YOU KNOW, UNTIL HE PROVES
YOU TO.
>> Jesse: WHEN YOU GUYS WERE
NOSE TO NOSE, WHAT DID YOU TELL
HIM?
>> I LOST MY EAR.
>> SAY THAT AGAIN, JESSE?
>> Jesse: WHEN YOU GUYS WERE
FACE TO FACE AT THE MEETING,
WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM?
>> OH, FIRST OFF, I TOLD HIM
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE HIM
MAKING TIME FOR ME.
I SAID BUT I ALSO HAD TO LET HIM
KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS
HURT IN MY EYES.
YOU KNOW, THE HURT IN MY EYES IS
THE HURT THAT I KNOW A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY ARE
FEELING.
THE UNCERTAINTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM THAT I
CAN’T SLEEP, YOU KNOW.
I SEE WHAT’S BEEN DONE TO MY
TOWN.
AND HIS FACE IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE NIGHT WHEN I WAKE UP, YOU
KNOW.
I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DOES
THE RIGHT THING, YOU KNOW.
IT’S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE ARE IN
GREAT CONCERN FOR FURTHER
SAFETY.
I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START
WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE
PROCESS.
THERE’S A LOT GOING ON.
A LOT OF INFORMATION COMING IN.
YOU HAVE GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU,
THE OHIO E.P.A. TELLING US THIS.
YOU HAVE LOCAL OFFICIALS.
EVERYBODY INTERNET GIVING THEIR
5 CENTS, YOU KNOW.
I DO KNOW THAT HE TOLD ME THIS
WON’T BE FIXED IN ONE DAY.
HE IS GOING TO TRY TO FIX IT AS
QUICK AS HE CAN.
ALL THE INFORMATION IS YET TO BE
THERE FOR PEOPLE.
SO, I THINK THAT’S WHERE A LOT
OF PEOPLE ARE COMING IN TO BE
CONCERNED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WILL TAKE HIS
WORD FOR IT AND SEE HOW THINGS
PLAY OUT.
YOU KNOW.
>> Jesse: I THINK HE HAS TO
PROVE HIMSELF TO YOU.
AND, MAYOR, BEFORE WE LET YOU
GO.
YOU SAW PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN OVER
IN UKRAINE, DID THAT MAKE YOU
FEEL.
>> I CAN’T HEAR ANYTHING.
>> Jesse: MAKE YOU FEEL SLIGHTED
IN ANYWAY?
CAN HE NOT HEAR ME?
>> I GOT YOU; HE ASKED ME BEFORE
WE GO.
I CAN REPEAT HE SAID WITH THE
PRESIDENT BEING IN UKRAINE
TODAY, YOU KNOW DID, THAT
SURPRISE YOU?
ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WAS THE BIGGEST SLAP IN THE
FACE.
THAT TELLS YOU RIGHT NOW HE
DOESN’T CARE ABOUT US.
>> AGREED.
>> HE CAN SEND EVERY AGENCY HE
WANTS TO.
I FOUND THAT OUT THIS MORNING IN
ONE OF THE BRIEFINGS THAT HE WAS
IN UKRAINE GIVING MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AWAY TO PEOPLE OVER
THERE NOT TO US.
I’M FURIOUS.
>> ON PRESIDENTS’ DAY IN OUR
COUNTRY.
>> PRESIDENTS’ DAY IN OUR
COUNTRY HE IS OVER IN UKRAINE.
THAT TELLS YOU WHAT KIND OF GUY
HE IS.
>> Jesse: LISTEN YOU TWO.
HANG IN THERE.
PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU CAN DO
ANYTHING.
I’M GLAD YOU ARE HOLDING ALAN
SHAW’S FEET TO THE FIRE.