>> Alleging, yes, ma'am.
So, at that point, I was
panicking.
I told my dad.
My dad's like, "Listen.
From this lawyer that you had
prior, I'm already $10,000 in.
I have to pay that off first
before we move on to someone
else."
He said, "Go in front of the
judge, explain your situation,
and it is what it is."
He's like, "There's nothing you
can do."
I was on the phone.
When Christine called me, I
explained to her, and when we
first met, I even told her what
was going --
>> Judge Judy: No, no, not first
met.
>> Well, we --
>> Judge Judy: Now you're
panicked.
>> I was panicking.
I told her the situation and
that of her own words on the
phone was, "I'm not doing this
for you.
I'm doing this for your kids,
and I'll call the lawyer, and
I'll do the $5,000."
And she said, "I know you're not
asking for it."
>> That's not true.
>> She said --
>> That's not true.
>> "I know you'd never ask for
money from me."
>> That's not true.
>> That's what she said.
>> I have text messages to prove
it.
>> Judge Judy: I'll read them.
>> And then, she called the law
firm.
There was a problem with the
card or whatever.
The law firm then sends her an
agreement with her about the
money, not me.
Then she sends me an e-mail
saying, "Oh, look.
I paid it off.
Start getting this divorce done
so we can move forward."
In my head, I thought we were
just friends.
>> Judge Judy: You have that
message?
>> Yes.
>> Judge Judy: I'd like to see
it.
>> And on top, ma'am, it says,
in her own words, "FYI" -- for
your information.
>> Judge Judy: I'd like to see
her text messages, too, please,
Byrd.
>> This is, "The check is
coming."
Me loaning it.
Him giving me the attorney's
phone number.
>> Judge Judy: No, no, just a
second.
I want to see exactly where he
says, "I'm gonna pay you back
for this money."
>> Well, this is some of it.
He says he's gonna pay me back
in there.
We set up the Zelle app to
exchange money when the check
came in.
He could pay me back.
We set up a test.
>> Judge Judy: Just one second.
A lot of -- I'm not reading all
those.
Take a pen and circle what it is
that you want me to read.
>> Can I borrow your pen?
>> Your Honor, could I answer
about the Zelle thing that she's
saying right now, or do you want
to wait?
She's bringing up a Zelle, which
can make payments.
Ms. Murray, also, prior to this,
I made an agreement with her
where I would give her money
'cause she could pay other
bills.
I was short $235.
She then sent me the bill for
the $235, which I agreed.
I said that "I owe you that."
So, on top of bringing me to
small claims for this, she also
now is bringing me to
small claims for the $235.
So...
>> Judge Judy: You mean in
another proceeding.
>> In another proceeding.
She waited three more days to
drive all the way out from her
house to Suffolk County four
days later so that she could get
another $235, which I already
told her that I would pay.
And that's when I set up the
Zelle, and I gave her $10.
So, I don't know --
>> Judge Judy: Shh-shh-shh!
>> I have a text showing the
amount.
>> Judge Judy: Shh!
Just a second.
Okay, would you show these --
Let me read this first.
>> Byrd: Sure.
>> Judge Judy: Would you show
him these, please?
>> And I also have another text
message for November saying that
he's gonna have to make payment
arrangements.
>> Judge Judy: Explanation,
Mr. Campbell.
>> That's like months later on
this.
And then she was constantly --
>> Judge Judy: Just a second.
>> What I'm saying to you,
Your Honor, is she was
controlling.
The texts -- the texts were over
and over.
Everything was, "Get the
divorce, get the divorce."
>> Judge Judy: Judgment for the
plaintiff in the amount of
$5,000.
We're finished. Thank you.
>> Byrd: Parties are excused.
You may step out.
>> There's nothing to say.
It is what it is.
>> He's very manipulative.
>> I was up front with her.
She knew my wife was crazy.
She saw my kids.
She saw the whole thing.
>> He made me think that there
was a future.
>> She wanted that divorce done.
She's the one that called my
lawyer, not me.
>> After he gave me the phone
number, yes.
>> She said it on the phone, and
she knows she did, is that "I'm
not doing it for you.
I'm doing it for your kids."
>> I do feel bad for the
children.
Divorce is always messy for
children, right?
>> You drive all the way from
East Rockaway to Centereach,
throw my stuff on the front
lawn, and then you knew I wasn't
going anywhere with her.
>> He had left some stuff at my
house, and I just wanted it out.
>> Best of luck to me and her.
That's it, you know?
>> Just be careful who I trust.