- What's going on guys? I'm Vang from Custom Offsets.
I've got Dustinnnnn.co with me.
- There's only two Ns.
- You have to enunciate the two Ns.
- Okay. All right.
- We got, we got no Ns and two Ns.
- Okay. The original Dustin.
- Anyway, and today we're gonna talk
about something that Dustin ran into a little bit
a couple of the things you ran into
- Correct.
- Mistakes when planning your build
that could bankrupt you.
- Correct. I'm not bankrupt.
- You're not bankrupt.
Cause we caught a lot of things in time.
- We figured them out.
- Yes.
- But we're gonna tell you how not
to not figure them out.
- Yes. I'm not saying you did all of these,
but there's some there's some that I did draw from you.
Just letting you know.
- Right, okay, I like it.
- So the first thing I wanna talk about is
cost of the truck versus cost of modifying it.
- [Dustin] I didn't do this one.
- You didn't do this one.
So let's say you got a really, really good deal
on like a mid-nineties K 1500, right?
- Correct.
- Some old guy up the road selling it for a grand.
- Okay.
- So what do you do?
You go out and you buy wheels and tires.
You buy suspension, you spend 10 grand lifting this truck.
- Okay.
- So now you're $11,000 in on a $3,000 truck.
- And then you go to sell it.
- And you go to sell it,
- And you get $3,000 for your $3,000 truck.
Right. That makes sense.
Not, not worth anything anymore.
- And people do it all the time.
I feel like, right?
- Oh yeah.
- Like like I'm gonna save money on the vehicle
because I'm gonna make it super badass.
But then they make it badass
and they realize that they want something newer
because other people are driving newer vehicles
which the older vehicles are sweet still
and you can make them super cool.
- Yeah.
- But I feel like I'm even having like that
like I want a 2021 now, you know?
- Oh yeah, absolutely.
- I'm almost there. But anyways
and then you just can't get anything back out of it.
Yeah. That would suck
because building is not the cheapest thing you can do.
- No, not at all.
And you spend all of that money on a truck
that's just not worth it anymore.
- Right. And it's cool for a little while.
What?
- [Voice In Background] What?
- [Vang] Well, you're right in the frame.
- [Voice In Background] No I'm not!
- [Vang] Oh you are.
Let's roll into the second thing
that Banker just told me about
which is doing it right the first time. I could see
that this being a problem because when you're buying wheels
and tires and you're buying suspension
and you're buying all the fun things that need to go
onto your vehicle and you spend thousands
of dollars doing that because it's the only way to do it.
And then you realize that you want 24x14s
but you bought 20x9s or vice versa.
You bought 22x12s. And didn't talk to anybody
or look at our gallery or do anything
that would've taught you the right thing to do.
And then you rub and scrub and have to re-buy those wheels.
You're talking thousands of dollars.
I mean, granted yes, you could sell 'em.
But even if you literally buy a brand new set of wheels
and they get delivered to your doorstep and you throw 'em
on your truck and you drive 'em for four miles
and bring 'em back to your house and put 'em up for sale.
Cause they weren't the right ones.
You're not getting your money back.
- Here's where I think you did this.
- Damn it.
- I kind of have a different take on this subject.
- Okay.
- But fog lights, you put
in some random eBay cubes instead
of just waiting for your Morimoto ones to come in.
- Correct.
- So now you have to take everything back
apart to put these Morimoto cubes in when
if you just would've waited,
cause they came in like the next week,
- Right.
- Now they've just been sitting
on your desk for a month.
- Right. But hear me out.
So I did that because I'm impatient.
- See, don't be impatient.
Do it right the first time.
- Correct. Okay. I can see it.
- We're- perfect example,
- The mirrors too.
- Yes. The mirrors too.
- Yeah.
- Perfect example of this, Bigs' truck.
He found the cheapest dude on Craigslist
or Facebook marketplace or wherever he found that dude to
powdercoat his lift kit.
Got it back, and it was basically just wet spray paint.
- Yep.
- So he had to get it taken off.
- It was really bad.
- Re-powder coated, which he never did.
He just spray painted it himself. Now it all fell off.
And now he is finally going around
to getting it re-powder coated.
- I really hope we have a picture
of that to show them because it was really bad.
- Oh yeah. He he's got-
I'm sure John will find the B roll from that build.
- Awesome.
- Cause that was bad.
Like just do it right the first time.
- Yeah.
- Pay the guy that everybody-
the shop that everybody knows about that does powder coat.
That does a good job.
You might pay a little bit more,
but get it right done right the first time.
- Yep. I didn't think about this like that because
if you put a lift kit in and let's say you just don't even
get it powder coated and you just put it in black
or whatever it comes but you realize then you wanna
powder coat it.
Then you have to go back to Banker and knock
on his door again and be like, hey, I know we just
got done putting all this stuff in, but I'm just
gonna need you to take it back out because I want to
get it painted or powder coated or whatever.
And that would suck
because then Banker would probably kill you
while you sleep. Dustin Korth?
- Third thing I thought of, repairs before-
this is another thing you kind of almost did repairs
before putting that lift kit in because you, you know
you get your- you get all excited.
You bought a lift kit.
You go to take it, take your truck apart.
And now you need wheel bearings.
You need upper control arms.
You need lower ball joints.
You need bushings.
You need all of this stuff.
- This is a personal attack. I needed all of that.
- Now you end up spending another $1,500 brakes.
You, you spend two grand-
- $2,800.
- Just-replay-$2,800 fixing stuff.
- Yeah.
- When you just paid, you know, three grand
for a lift kit and you didn't think
about all this now you're $5,800 into this lift kit install.
- Yeah, but there's really no way to avoid that one.
- Well no, but like-
- Because you, you have to do it, you know?
But like you have to know that you have to do it.
- Yes.
- So like my, my problem was they told me
at the dealership that I had to do all of that.
And then I sent you that text message.
And I was like, Hey Banker, here is the list
of stuff they're telling me, I need to repair.
When I went to go get a warranty work done
and I'm sitting there going, yo, they just want to get me
because they're doing this warranty work for free.
And you said, no, don't do any of that.
Which is good because they would've charged me an arm
and a leg to do it.
But so I knew it was coming like forgot it was coming, I
guess. So I was not prepared for that.
- Knowing it's coming is different, right?
- Right.
- So check those things, check your wheel bearings,
check your brakes, check your ball joints and everything
before you go taking everything apart from the truck.
And that's when you find out.
- True.
- Cause then at least you have time to save
up. Right?
- Yeah. If your brakes are squeaking, you're probably
gonna need them.
Or like if your truck doesn't stop anymore, that's probably
a good sign that you're gonna need some brakes
- Or it just needs like a recall.
- Or that.
- Yeah.
- Well, yeah, that is true because I, yeah, I
I couldn't stop.
And it was a re- it was a recall, but I also needed brakes.
So it was a little bit of both, but anyways.
Yeah. And when we say bankrupt to like the word
bankrupt is thrown around, I feel like with like people
who have hundreds of thousands of dollars in their bank
I don't have that.
Right? So like, yeah, like a $5,000 mistake,
I'm bankrupt.
I'm done. I'm out.
- Gonna sell some smokers, bro.
- Yeah I'm gonna sell some smokers, you guys need one?
Feel like the
the fourth thing would be doing it all
at once versus doing it in stages.
I am a hybrid of this because I am fortunate enough
to be able to do it all at once
because I have you and I have Custom Offsets to help me
with being able to do that.
But definitely if I didn't work here
I would not have been able to do
what I did, period.
Just hands down.
I wouldn't have been able to
but I still would have done it.
And exactly like I told them in my video when I was going
through it is every time you do something
it's gonna feel good.
Every time you put something on, it's gonna feel good.
So don't like, think you have to do it all at once.
Go do the things you wanna do first.
So like suspension
obviously being probably the most important
because if you're gonna put big wheels and tires, we
he saw this yesterday with Kohl's truck, we took it out.
It was on 22x12s the things
on like a two inch lift or something Banker
didn't tell me it was gonna rub and scrub.
And I gonna rip the bumper right
off the mother when I pulled it outta the garage.
But anyways, so do the suspension first.
So that way, when you get your wheels and tires
and you know, they're gonna fit, you know, because if you
then you're gonna go back to number one
of having the wrong size wheels and tires.
- Yeah, exactly.
- And having to buy them over again
this is a never ending cycle.
- Yeah, exactly.
And like it's almost bad cuz we do it all at once.
All the time.
Right? Like all of our videos, we, we do everything at once.
We're not on that tight budget.
So if you're on a budget, it's okay to do that.
Lift kit now, do bumpers later do headlights later.
Yeah. I mean, if you really wanna do it at all
at now, finance it, whatever, but you don't have to.
And that's, I think that's the biggest thing is
it's really cool to see a truck all done.
- Yep.
- Start from, you know
a stock truck and just finish it all at once.
I prefer doing it that way.
- Yep.
- But again, that's not my bank account.
- Well wheels carry suspension.
That's the most important.
And that's what our customers always did too.
So like we're, we're talking to you guys and we're talking
to the people that would come into shop and buy their
their stuff here and get it installed here.
It would be wheels.
It'd be tires, it would be suspension.
- Right.
- Those are the three.
If you have the budget for that, do that.
Then all the rest of the light bars, the, the fog lights
the mirrors, the headlights, the tail lights, all, all that
all that stuff costs money, you know, at the end of the day.
And you can do that later.
- Honestly, you can do that first, so.
- Yeah true.
- Now that I think about it, when I built my black truck
the first time around, I did a small lift
but I did all the headlights that are still in it.
I did the grill, you know, all the stuff that's still done
to it, cosmetically.
And then I went bigger with the lift as I went.
- Yeah.
- Especially if you're like wrapping and stuff
because you can like wrap in your garage
and you can, you know?
- Well yeah, and it's significantly easier
to wrap a stock size truck than just a lift one.
- True.
- That's for sure, we've learned that one.
So something you said during that segment
and that is making sure the wheels fit.
- Yes.
- Right.
Because if you get something that's too big and you really
- Forgot that was a segment
- That's all right.
If you get something that's too big
and you really just want them to fit and you end
up just smashing the fender and hacking the bumper apart
and you're just not happy with how it looks
then you gotta take it to a body shop and body
shops are not cheap.
- No, not at all.
- And this is something Sean just learned with
with his truck and his build, you know
he just told me to smash it back.
It'll be fine.
And I was like, I don't like the way this looks.
And we finally talked him into doing it the right way.
You know, smashing with a hammer is free, body shop work,
unless you own a body shop
or you are a body person is not cheap is not cheap.
- No.
- Is not free.
So that can, that can add up really quick.
Especially if you really mess it up yourself
take the Sawsall and just cut the whole fender out.
Now they gotta-
- Yeah. I feel like the body shop's
the type of place you call
and you're like, hi, can I speak to service?
And they're like, yeah.
Do you have credit card on file?
(laughing)
Because they're just gonna rob you.
- Yeah. They're just gonna wrap that up.
- It's gonna look phenomenal when it's done
hopefully, cause the cheap body shop's
probably not gonna look phenomenal.
- Yeah. Look at reviews.
Body shop reviews.
That's another mistake that can bankrupt you, going
to the wrong body shop and having to do that again.
- The guys that throw new bumpers
on taxi cabs are probably
not the same guys that are gonna be, you know
custom paint and be able to fix your, your fender real nice.
- How many trucks have you done that to?
Where you just like hacked,
literally it to the point where it was just terrible
and were they okay with it or were they like, man
I didn't know it was gonna be this.
- Yeah. And we always it's a lot.
We always tell 'em like, you know
this is way too aggressive.
This is what we're gonna have to do.
And just like Sean, they're like, oh it's not that bad.
It'll be fine.
Okay. To be fair.
Most of them, this is Wisconsin.
The lower part of the fender was rotted away anyway.
So just kind of pushed back smushed back.
- Right.
- And didn't look terrible
but the truck didn't look great to begin with.
- Right.
- But you know, this is the second one of Sean's trucks.
So there was a brand new truck
and a completely clean mint truck.
You kind of want to keep that aesthetic.
That, that same look.
- Yeah. You definitely don't want it
to look hacked and hacked up.
- Yeah. That'd be bad.
- Exactly.
- I wouldn't want that.
I think the last thing that we need to talk
about is probably alignment,
the last part of your bill, really.
- Yes.
- Yeah. It's the last thing you do
when you get the bill done.
But I feel like people like myself when you've already
dumped all that money into it and you're like, holy shit
we have another thing we have to do.
We have to go to alignment.
And that's only a couple hundred bucks or whatever
but you know, a couple hundred bucks, a lot of times adds
up. And, but anyways, if you don't go to alignment,
I guess what is like the worst thing that would happen
right? Your, your tires are gonna rub to bald like-
- Right. You're gonna chew up
the tires extremely quick.
- Right.
- Because you like align mine by eye and it drove pretty
- To get it to the alignment shop.
- It drove pretty okay.
Like, and so had I not known it wasn't aligned like
had he not told me, it drove okay. It wasn't terrible.
And, but anyways I could.
So I could see someone doing that, lifting the truck,
putting the wheels and tires on there and then going
and just being like, hey, letting go of the steering wheel
and be like, they said three seconds.
As long as I don't veer off to the side, I'm good.
- Yeah. Completely tearing up their brand new tires
that now they have to go buy again.
- Well, and your, your truck is a perfect example.
Right? We got that done late at night and you're like
I'm done with this. The truck's done. It's lifted.
I just want to drive it.
- Yeah. I wanna go home.
- Right. You know, can be fine.
But then you just it's when you keep doing that
you're like, yeah, nah, it drove fine.
What do I, I don't really need an alignment.
And you keep telling yourself that until you're 10,000 miles
onto those tires, you haven't rotated 'em, it's unaligned.
And now you need new tires
that you just finance and you can't
you're still making payments on bald tires
that are all choppy.
- And I feel like there's other things
that have got to like go wrong in this, right?
Like ball joints.
- Oh yeah, absolutely. If it's far enough out
you're wearing out all those components that either
you didn't replace because you didn't think about it
or you just did replace and now they need to replaced again.
- Right.
- This one can really add up really quick.
So where $150 alignment could have saved you
a couple thousand being lazy can cost you that
couple of thousand of dollars.
- We don't wanna spend thousands.
We don't wanna do, if we don't have to
I'd rather put my money into my build
than into my build again.
- I think that was a pretty good selection
of things because it's all things that are
like very com- like I feel like it's things
that are common, right?
- Yeah absolutely. So, you know,
let us know what you think, guys.
Those are the main things that we're thinking
of that can really go wrong when you're building a truck
and can cost you a lot more than you expected.
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- And me.
- And you. Yeah.