Speaker 1: Let's go to James from Southern California.
James from Southern California.
Welcome to the program.
What is on your mind today, sir?
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
David, are you able to hear me okay?
Speaker 1: I can hear you beautifully.
Speaker 4: I want to start by thanking you for everything you do.
I really appreciate all you've done over the years on your program.
I have a comment and I have a question.
Sure.
One comment I want to make regarding the people with the MAGA mentality.
I really want to encourage everyone to be patient with these folks because we can get
through to them.
I've had a lot of success.
And I think the approach I use is very important in remembering that they do live in fear to
some extent, very much happen to us in their mentality.
Oh, yeah.
And if you can establish that you are one of them and we are us.
They will listen to you.
And as long as you don't tell them they're wrong, but simply give them information, but
build from the bottom up, remembering that they're ignorant like little children.
And you need to use terms and concepts.
And once you have them on your side and they're agreeing with you, you can start correcting
the misinformation that's in their head and help them kind of re build their view of reality.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that one bit.
Speaker 4: It takes a lot of patience.
Yes.
And I really want to encourage people to go out to friends, family members who are frustrating
you and try to approach them as they are a little child.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, James.
Everything you're saying is correct.
The important thing to remember is that's like a retail strategy person by person.
And it's insanely time consuming.
Doesn't mean we don't do it, but it is insanely time consuming.
We also want to see, is there some wholesale approach that might deprogram larger numbers
of these people?
And that's a tougher question to answer.
Speaker 4: It is indeed.
But I believe we need to approach this from the grassroots because we all have a friend
or family member that we are probably avoiding.
Instead, we need to help them, right?
We need to help our community.
And I think it's a big part.
It's on us.
Rather than letting it happen.
We need to be patient.
Speaker 3: And take the time.
And yes, it is time consuming, but it does work.
Speaker 4: It can be done.
I have faith in that and I just wanted to make that comment fair because many of us
are feeling a little hopeless.
But don't give up on it, you know, take that stand.
Anyway, I have a question for you.
Sure.
I was wondering, what do you think the odds are of Tucker Carlson ending up on Newsmax?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
You know, I have I have no idea.
I don't think I have anything substantive or objective that I could say.
Could Tucker Carlson end up on Newsmax?
I know the CEO of Newsmax, interestingly enough, he's kind of like a fan of my work.
Interestingly, even though our political views are very, very different.
He is at heart a business person.
And so without a doubt, if I had to bet, I would bet that he's looking to see what could
happen, maybe with Tucker Carlson on Newsmax.
My instinct is that it would be neither prestigious nor lucrative enough for Tucker Carlson to
join.
I think Tucker Carlson would have more to gain from launching his own thing from scratch.
But it's not impossible.
I don't know where Tucker is going to end up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either.
I'm worried about that.
I was just wondering about your take on that.
Well, thank you so much, David.
I really appreciate everything you do for us.
Speaker 1: My pleasure.
James from Southern California.
Very, very good to hear from you.
Why don't we go next to Burt in New Jersey?
Burt in New Jersey.
Welcome to The David Pakman Show.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jumping right in again, calling you for another Wednesday.
I won't pretend to be in work also.
All right.
I want to ask you.
I think it was Rolling Stone magazine reported a couple weeks ago that when Trump got arraigned,
he had the option to do it over Zoom from Mar a Lago and not go into Manhattan.
I don't know if you heard anything about this, whether that's true, because if it is, that's
significant where, you know, he complains about New York City spending all this money
and everything all could've been avoided.
The circus can be avoided had he done that.
Speaker 1: I am not aware that Trump was given the opportunity to be arraigned via Zoom.
Let's see if I search for that.
Trump Arraignment via Zoom Opportunity.
Fact Check.
Did Trump refuse arraignment over Zoom from Mar a Lago?
There was a tweet posted about that.
What is the verdict?
Unnamed sources only and no actual verified evidence.
So at this point, it is at best an unverified claim.
So, I mean, listen, either way, I've not seen anything verified that Trump could have stayed
at Mar a Lago.
What I do know is that that court was not doing anything over Zoom for a while now.
Now, whether they would have made a special exception for Trump, maybe.
But Trump said he wanted the whole pomp and circumstance.
He wanted to be handcuffed.
He wanted a mug shot, supposedly because he thought it would help him.
So I don't know if any of that is true.
I can't imagine Trump would have wanted to do it by Zoom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Interesting thing to follow in case that turns out to be true.
Yeah.
Now one more question to urge you on the Patriot David podcast.
Yeah.
That I you know if I was great, I it's so such a breath of fresh air to hear instead
of just the typical cable news propaganda.
You have two people with conflicting ideologies like recognize each other's logic.
Right.
It's so rewarding to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
I mean, I don't know about sometimes there wasn't much logic, I have to tell you, Bert,
but I know what you're saying.
At least hearing the rationale.
Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
There were instances where he was forced to kind out his head and go, Okay, you know,
I know.
I have no rebuttal for that.
Yeah, no, those are that are critical key moments.
Question I have and I think all your audience members is also wondering too, when are you
going to sit down, do round two with Ben SHAPIRO?
Because we would love.
Speaker 1: We Ben SHAPIRO hasn't been on, I think, for like ten years.
We've invited him multiple times.
He never responds.
And, you know, he doesn't have any responsibility to me.
He's he's he's way bigger than I am.
And he may be just too busy for me.
And that's totally fine.
But we've invited him a bunch of times.
It's up to him when we sit down again, not up to me.
I'm willing to do it any time.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Awesome to hear.
Speaker 1: All right.
Thanks, Bert from Jersey.
All good questions.
Very important stuff and different things going on