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>> WE HAVE HAD ANOTHER AVALANCHE
OF NEW THIS WEEK.
THERE IS ALOT TO TALK ABOUT WITH
OUR ROUND TAKE.
>> AND WE HAVE A GREAT LINE-UP
SO INTRODUCTIONS ARE IN ORDER,
MARK CAPUTO COVERING THE 2020
PRESIDENTIAL RACE WITH EMPHASIS
ON FLORIDA.
BERN DEBT WEEKS IS AN ATTORNEY
FROM FORT LAUDERDALE AND FOUNDER
OF THE WOMEN OF COLOR IN
EMPOWERMENT STMENT.
RAFAEL IS AN ATTORNEY AND
POLITICAL ANALYST.
WELCOME ALL.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> WE SLIDE INTO THE HOLIDAYS.
NO REST FOR THE WEARY.
>> SO THERE IS I THINK THE
NATURE MAYBE SUFFERING
IMPEACHMENT FATIGUE AND HAVE I
TO CONFESS, I FEEL A LITTLE BIT
OF THAT BUT MARK, I MEAN WE ARE
JUST GOING TO MARK US FORWARD
EVEN THOUGH ACCORDING TO THE NEW
POLLS THE COUNTRY IS JUST EVENLY
DIVIDED ON WHETHER PRESIDENT
SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND REMOVED
OR NOT.
>> YEAH, I DON’T THINK THIS IS
SHOCKING.
I THINK WE HAD-- A NUMBER OF
WEEKS NOT MONTHS.
ST KIND OF THE NEW ABNORMAL THAT
WE ARE IN.
>> YOU PEN DIVISION.
>> YEAH.
>> THE NEW ABNORMAL, I LIKE THAT
QUNS DIVISION BRINGS IN VIEWERS.
>> YOU KNOW T IS INTERESTING YOU
SHOULD SAY THAT.
BECAUSE I ASKED CONGRESSWOMAN
SHALALA, THEY PASSED A LOT OF
BILLS AND THEY PASSED A BUDGET
WHICH SAY BIG DEAL BUT YOU DONE
HEAR THAT COMMONLY.
>> LET’S TALKING ABOUT TIESMING,
NANCY PELOSI IS BREWING, SHE
HELD ON TO PASS IT AT THE SAME
TIME THAT TRUMP AND HIS TEAM
WERE WILLING AND READY TO SAY
THAT IT IS A DO-NOTHING
DEMOCRATK CONGRESS.
SHE GAVE THE BIGGEST LEGISLATIVE
WIN, ARGUABLY TODAY AFTER THE
TAX CUT.
>> RIGHT.
>> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT-- HE
DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE INITIALS.
BERNADETTE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THE FACT SHE HASN’T SENT OVER
THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT TO
THE SENATE, I THINK GLENNA’S
QUESTION, YOU KNOW, TO THE
CONGRESSWOMAN WAS REALLIED TOO,
IS THAT JUST GREAT POLITICAL
STRATEGY OR HAS SHE MADE A
MISTAKE.
>> OH, SHE IS A POLITICAL
STRATEGIST.
THIS WOMAN NANCY PELOSI THINKS
ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I DON’T THINK FOR A MINUTE IT
WASN’T CALCULATEED.
SHE HEARD WHERE THE DISCUSSION
WAS GOING, THAT THEY WERE NOT
GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL TO
BRING IN WITNESSES OR EVEN HAVE
AS MUCH AS A TRIAL.
SO I THINK THAT THIS AT LEAST
BRINGS PEOPLE TO THE TABLE TO
GIVE SOME LOGIC AND THOUGHT TO
WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT.
SHE QUNT AFFORD HER MANAGERS
UNTIL SHE KNOWS WHAT THE PROCESS
IS BEING TO BE, IT WAS A SAVVY
POLITICAL MOVE.
>> ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING WHEN
THE PRESIDENT IS RALLYING AND
RAISING MONEY AND NOW HE’S HERE
AND SIX DEMOCRATS ARE ON STAGE.
YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> I JUST DON’T KNOW HOW
BRILLIANT NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN
IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND I THINK THE PROOF IS IN THE
PUDDING.
BUT THERE SAN ARGUMENT TO BE
MADE THAT SINCE THE PRESIDENT’S
FORMER LAWYER ACTUALLY WENT TO
PRISON FOR A CAMPAIGN FINANCE
FINE AND IMPLICATED THE
PRESIDENT WHO WAS LABELED AND
YOU ALSO HAD THE MORAL REPORT
AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
POTENTIAL COUNTS LAID OUT, I DO
WONDER WHETHER THERE WAS A LOT
OF WISDOM IN PELOSI NOT PURSUING
THOSE AS WELL.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY TIME BECAUSE
THE ARTICLE ARGUMENTS OF
IMPEACHMENT REGARDING UKRAINE
HAVE PASSED AND THEY STILL
HAVEN’T BEEN TRANSMITTED OVER TO
THE HOUSE, PARM, THE SENATE, SO
THERES WITH A LITTLE MORE TIME
TO EXIST AND EXAMINE THESE OTHER
AREAS.
>> BUT THEY CLEARLY DECIDED,
RAFAEL, TO NARROW THE AMBIT AND
NOT TO INCLUDE THE AMALUMENT
CLAUSE OR PAYING OFF STORMY
DANIELS AND LYING ABOUT IT, ALL
THE OTHER THINGS MARK JUST
MENTIONED, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN
PART OF A LARGER ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT AGAINST THEM, THEY
SAID NOPE, WE WILL LIMIT IT TO
UKRAINE.
SO THERE IS OBSTRUCTION.
>> DEMOCRATIC LEADERS WERE ON
TV.
AND THE WE CAN BEFORE THAT, WE
ARE FACING SIMILAR QUESTIONS AND
THEY ALL ADMITTED SHOCKINGLY IN
MY OPINION.
THEY ADMITTED THEY DON’T WANT TO
OVERWHELM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC,
THEY ARE TRYING TO BRAND THE
PRESIDENT, THE IMPEACHMENT STAIN
SON HIS LEGACY FOREVER BUT ALSO
HIS OWN DOING.
THESE OTHER ITEMS WERE WAITING
BEFORE THE UKRAINE SCN DAL
BOEING OUT AND THEY CLOSE NOT TO
PURSUE IMPEACH AM PRECISELY
BECAUSE NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN
SAYING SINCE THE BEGINNING THAT
IMPEACHMENT SHOULD TAKE PLACE
NOVEMBER 2020 AT THE BALLOT BOX
BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO GIVE THE
DEMOCRATK CONTENDERS AS MUCH
LEAD ROOM AS POSSIBLE,
ORALLYWAY, THAT IS GONE.
THAT IS TOTALLY GONE.
>> ONCE THE WHISTLE-BLOWER CAME
FORWARD AND MADE HIS COMPLAINT,
THEN WE HEARD FROM KERNEL VENMAN
AND THE OTHERS WHO WERE ON THE
CALL.
I MEAN THEY SAY WE HAD TO DO
SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT IS PRETTY
COMPELLING.
>> AND THEY DID.
THEY HAD TO DO SOMETHING.
THEY ARE IN A POSITION WHERE IF
WE WERE TO LEAVE IN THE STATE
THAT IT WAS IN, IT WOULD HAVE
SENT A MESSAGE THAT FOREVER AND
EVER YOU CAN HAVE A PRESIDENT
BASICALLY CHEAT, CONCERNING A
FUTURE ELECTION AND DO IT WITH A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALSO
HAVE WRONGDOING, AND NOT ALLOW
PEOPLE WHO WERE WORKING WITH YOU
TO COME AND SPEAK ON THOSE
ISSUES.
>> YEAH.
>> MARK, JUMP IN.
>> WELL, IF DEMOCRATS ARE GOING
TO MAKE THE CASE THAT WE DID
THIS BECAUSE IT WAS OUR DUTY.
WE HAD TO DO THIS, THEN IF THESE
OTHER LAWS ARE BROKEN, ITS WAY
THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR
MONTHS, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
NOT-- OVER IMPEACHING OVER THAT,
WE CALL IT THE QUESTION, THE
POLITICAL NATURE OF THEIR
DECISIONS.
>> TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER.
THERE WERE ACTUAL LAWS BROKEN
REFERRED TO AS INDIVIDUAL ONE
BUT WHAT HE WAS IMPEACHED ONS
WITH MORE ABOUT YOU KNOW, THEY
ARE CALLING IT A US BOOING POWER
AND INTEGRITY, OBSTRUCTING
CONGRESS.
THESE AREN’T NECESSARILY LAWS.
YES, CONGRESS APPROPRIATED THE
MONEY AND ALLOCATED IT FOR THE
UKRAINE, PRESIDENT TRUMP
WITHHELD IT.
WE CAN ALL HOLD OUR NOSE AT THE
CONCEPT OF THAT BUT THESE WERE
LAWS THAT WERE BRK ENAND THE
DEMOCRATS DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.
>> HOLD YOUR THOUGHTS, WE WILL
BE BACK WITH MORE ROUND TABLE IN
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WE ARE IN THE MID OF A GREAT
ROUND TABLE WITH MARK,
BERNADETTE, AND WITH RAFAEL.
MARK, I WATCHED AND YOU WERE
THERE, I WATCHED THE DEMOCRATIC
DEBATE THE OTHER NIGHT.
AND IN A SENSE I WOULD SAY JOE
BIDEN WON BECAUSE HE DIDN’T LOSE
IT.
HE DIDN’T STUMBLE.
YOU KNOW, HE.
>> HE ACTUAL LEW HAD A GOOD
DEBATE.
>> HE GOT THE AUDIENCE TO LAUGH
WITH HIM WHICH REALLY SELDOM
HAPPENS.
>> RIT.
>> GOOD FOR HIM, GOOD FOR AMY
KLOBUCHAR SHE HAD BEEN NURSING A
JUDGE AGAINST PETE BUTTIGIEG.
I DON’T THINK IT WAS A GREAT
NIGHT FOR ELIZABETH WARREN, AND
ANDREW YANG, INTERESTING.
>> HE SHOWED HIMSELF.
HE CAME THROUGH.
>> CAN I ASK BERNADETTE, WHEN I
HEARD ANDREW YANG TALK ABOUT
BEING THE ONLY PERSON OF COLOR
ON THE STAGE, YOU GET WHY, WHERE
HE IS GOING WITH THAT.
BUT I LOOK AT HIM AND I SAY
ANDREW YANG, IS NOT WILDLY
CONSIDERED A PERSON OF COLOR.
>> YES, I CONSIDER HIM HIM A
PERSON OF COLOR.
I THINK HE MADE A VALID POINT.
IT REMINDED ME OF A COMEDIAN
RECENTLY, NOW WE ARE DOWN TO
JUST BASICALLY THE WHITE GUYS
AND ANDREW YANG.
BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS, LIKE
THE HORROR MOVE WE ARE WHERE
EVERYBODY GETS KILLED OFF AND WE
ONLY HAVE LEFT.
>> ELIZABETH WARREN WHO WILL BE
THE YOUNGEST IF SHE WINS.
>> IF SHE WINS.
>> IT IS A GREAT COMEBACK SHE
GAVE TO THE DEBATE HOST BUT
ANDREW YANG’S CANDIDACY, HE
CALLED OUT THE CORY BOOKER IS
NOT ON STAGE AND KAMALA HARRIS
HAD TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE SHE DISN
HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES.
THE DEBATE STAGE IDEOLOGICALLY
IS STILL DIVERSE AND I THINK
THAT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IS
WHY WE ARE STILL SEEING SIX
CANDIDATES ON THE STAGE INSTEAD
OF THREOR FOUR.
>> REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE
PETE BEUL GIEG BE STUCH--
BUTTIGIEG BE SUCH A
TARGET.
>> I HAVE A STORE THEORY
BECAUSE THEY SAW THE STORY WITH
BARACK OBAMA.
ALL THE THINGS SAID ABOUT BARACK
OBAMA.
>> IS HE NO BARACK OBAMA.
>> BUT GUESS WHAT, BARACK OBAMA
WAS DISMISSED AND SO HE WAS.
>> THE IOWA CAUCUS, I THINK THE
POINT HERE IS THAT PETE
BUTTIGIEG IS A 25 PERCENT, ABOUT
10 POINTS HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE
OTHER CANDIDATES IN IOWA, AND
THEY JUST WANT TO TAKE HIM DOWN
A NOTCH.
>> LET’S FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT
VAIS PRESIDENT BIDEN IS AHEAD IN
THE POLLS PRETTY MUCH NATIONWIDE
POLLS IT WAS JUST A CNN POLL
LAST WEEK WHICH SHOWED THAT HE
IS AHEAD OF TRUMP.
HE IS A MEETING IN EVERY STATE
EXCEPT FOR IOWA, THAT BARACK
OBAMA WON IN 2020.
-- 2012 AND TRUMP WON IN 2016.
EVERY SINGLE STATE, IT SHOWS,
POLLS SHOW HE IS LEADING IN
FLORIDA.
SO IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT FOR HIM.
>> I AGREE.
TO YOUR BROADER POINT ABOUT VICE
PRESIDENT, FOMPLER VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS WHEN YOU GET
OUT OF THESE MAJORITY WHITE
STATES, WHEN YOU GET OUT OF IOWA
OR NEW HAMPSHIRE, START GETTING
INTO STATES, THAT LOOKS MORE
LIKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HIS
BLACK PACK WHICH IS A
PROGRESSIVE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE,
CHART ERRED A POLL, WHICH I
WROTE ABOUT, FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN’S
AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT IS 44
PERSZ AND THE NUMBER TWO
CANDIDATE IS BERNIE SANDERS
NATIONWIDE AT 15% BNS JUST
CRUSHING IT.
>> WELL, BLACK WOMEN IN
PARTICULAR ARE SOME OF THE MOST
RELIABLE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
VOTERS BUT THIS REMINDED ME OF
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WHO WE HAVE
NOT TALKED ABOUT.
HE HAS A CAMPAIGN SHIRT ON HIS
WEBSITE SAYING IN GOD WE TRUST,
EVERYONE ELSE BRING DATA.
AND I.
>> I REALLY-- KUDOS TO YOU AND
MAYOR BLOOMBERG, THEY ARE
HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD,
BIEDING IS LEADING THE BLACK
COMMUNITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA BUT
NEVADA WHICH HAS UNKNOWN POLLING
IT IS A GREAT UNKNOWN.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE LATINO
COMMUNITY WHICH MAYOR PETE WAS
JUST THERE RALLYING LATINO
SUPPORTERS.
LET’S NOT DISCOUNT THE LATINO
COMMUNITY.
>> MOST OF THE POLLS HAVE I HAD
BOOEN PRETTY COMFORTABLY AHEAD.
ARE YOU RIGHT-- YOU ARE CORRECT
IN THAT NEV THEF HAS A CAUCUS
AND A NEW CAUCUS AN CAUCUSES ARE
HARDER TO POLL THAN OF THAN A
STRAIGHT UP PRIMARY.
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT
SUPERDELEGATES.
>> WE BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A NEW
MASSON DKSON POLL THAT CAME OUT
THIS WEEK ABOUT GOVERNOR RON
DESANTIS.
AND BOY, DOES THIS LOOK GOOD FOR
RON DESANTIS.
LET’S PUT THE POLL NUMBERS UP,
65% APPROVAL IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, 26% DISAPPROVE, 9
PERCENT UNSURE WHO THE HECK ARE
THEY.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS
NOT ONLY GOOD FOR HIM, MARK BUT
IT IS VERY GOOD FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
>> IT MAY BE GOOD FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
AND IF RON DESANTIS I THINK
PITCHES HIMSELF TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
>> WELL, HE HAS.
>> WELL, THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING
TO COME DOWN.
NOW HE DID EARLY ON, HE DID AND
I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP HELPED
HIM GET ELECTED INITIALLY.
>> NAME RECOGNITION.
>> HE DID, AND HE CERTAINLY
WALKING THE LINE OF YOU MOW
CONSERVATIVISM, DOING EVERYTHING
HE NEED TOSES DO IN THAT
RESPECT.
I WILL HAVE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT.
IS HE SMART, HE HIT CERTAIN
GROUPS.
HE JUST APPOINTED THREE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN TO THE
COUNTY COURT IN MIAMI DADE
COUNTY JUST LAST WEEK.
SO THAT SAY BIG DEAL.
AND THEY ACTUALLY WERE MORE
QUALIFIED THAN SOME OF THE
HIGHER COURT JUDGES THAN HE
APPOINTED.
>> WHAT I WILL SAY GOVERNOR, IF
YOU ARE WATCHING, APPOINT SOME
OF THESE AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN
AND MEN TO HIRE APPELLATE COURT
LEVELS AND A SUPREME COURT
BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
AND IT IS A TRAVESTY, IN MANY
MANY YEARS WE HAVE NO
AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUPPORT.
>> AND YOU GENE FORMER PRESIDENT
OF THE AMERICAN BAR, REALLY
GREAT GUY IN FORT LAUDERDALE, HE
SAYS THE SAME THING, SO OF GOER
IN, IF YOU ARE WATCHING, YOU
KNOW, TAKE A.
>> I REMEMBER A GUY NAMED
CHARLIE CRIST, HE GOT WHIPPED
OUT OF HIS OWN PARTY.
>> THAT IS WHOLE OTHER TOPK FOR
ANOTHER EPISODE.
>> YOU TBIES HAVE I A BEAUTIFUL