>> Martha: FROM FRIENDS TO
FRENEMY'S, IT LOOKS LIKE, CHRIS
HUGHES, MARK ZUCKERBERG'S
IN THE ZONE OF DANGER IS.
IT'S SO BIG IT'S UN-AMERICAN.
HERE'S HOW HE FEELS ABOUT
MARK ZUCKERBERG.
LISTEN.
>> WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS FOR 15-16
YEARS AT THIS POINT.
HE HAS TOO MUCH POWER.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE
GOING TO BE FRIENDS.
>> Martha: HE'S DONE A LOT
FURTHER WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT
ZUCKERBERG'S MOTIVE ON THE
PODCAST "THE DAILY."
>> MARK DAYTON CARE ABOUT MAKING
MONEY.
>> YOU THINK THAT'S TRUE?
>> YEAH.
THE GROWTH IS NOT ABOUT
INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE
COMPANY, WHAT WAS IT ABOUT?
>> IT WAS A DRIVE FOR DOMINATIO
DOMINATION.
>> Martha: DRIVING ME
>> Martha: JOINED ME NOW,
LISA BOOTHE.
AND DANIELLE McLAUGHLIN, ARE
TURNING ME
-- ALL THREE OF YOU ARE WITH U.
I FIND THIS FASCINATING.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOCIAL NETWORK
THE MOVIE PART TWO BECAUSE
YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THEY LIVE
TOGETHER IN THIS DORM ROOM IN
HARVARD, HE CAME FROM A
MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILY SAID.
SAID HE'S NOT ABOUT TO WALK AWAY
FROM THAT.
HIS GOAL BECAME TO BE THIS
DOMINANCE OF THIS COMPANY IN THE
WORLD.
>> SURE OF ANY BUSINESS.
IF YOU SEE GROWTH, YOU WANT TO
SEE THE BUSINESS CONTINUE TO
GROW.
I WONDER IF THEY ARE STILL
FRIENDS, --
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
FOR ME, IF YOU DON'T LIKE
FACEBOOK.
YOU CAN DEACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT
BUT IS NOT ESSENTIAL THE WAY
PEOPLE LIVE THEIR WAY, AT LEAST
FOR ME IT'S NOT.
THE THING I FIND IRONIC ABOUT
THIS IS PEOPLE GOT CAUGHT IN THE
CROSS HAIRS IS BECAUSE OF THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH CAMBRIDGE
ANALYTICA, THEY DID THE SAME
THING THEY WERE DOING AND LAUDED
FOR THEIR EFFORTS ON THE DATA
COLLECTION.
I THINK WHAT'S IRONIC, CONSUMER
DATA
YOU DO NOT NEED AN APP TO
COLLECT DATA FROM FACEBOOK.
YOU CAN GO OUT AND PURCHASE IT.
I REALLY HAVE FOUND THIS WHOLE
ENTIRE SCANDAL QUITE INTERESTING
TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GETTING
FOR FREE?
>> POLITICALLY, IS VERY
INTERESTING -- EVERYBODY SORT OF
TURNED AFTER THE ELECTION.
IT'S SUCH A GREAT THINK OF
EVERYBODY LOVES IT, ALL OF A
SUDDEN IT'S THIS EVIL SIDE OF
IT.
CHRISTINA, IN TERMS OF THE TRUST
QUESTION HERE, SHOULD IT BE
BROKEN UP?
IS IT A MONOPOLY?
>> IF I'M COMING FROM A BUSINESS
SIDE, NO, THEY SHOULD OPERATE
THE WAY THEY WANT.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME
CONCERNS.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE
FACILITATION THAT FACEBOOK HAS
PLAYED IN THE ROLE OF SUFFERING
AROUND THE GLOBE, YOU HAVE CHILD
BRIDES BARGAIN OFF IN SUDAN ON
FACEBOOK.
RUMORS THAT HELP START THE BMR,
ALL THESE ISSUES.
FACEBOOK HAS TO DECIDE THE
CONTENT FOR THEIR PLATFORM, ARE
THEY IMMEDIATE SITE, SHOULD BE
REGULATED MORE, REMOVING SOME OF
THE HATE SPEECH ON THERE, BUT
SHOULD WE GIVE THEM THAT POWER?
HOW POWERFUL HAS HE BECOME?
>> THAT'S THE ULTIMATE QUESTION,
REGULATING WHAT WE ARE
REGULATING.
AS A PUBLISHER OF THE PLATFORM,
ARE THEY A FINANCIAL SERVICES
COMPANY?
ARE THE MESSAGING COMPANY?
AS IT RELATES TO ZUCKERBERG
RELEGATING HIMSELF, THERE AREN'T
MANY INDUSTRIES THAT GET TO DO
THAT.
I GUESS ONE OF THE REASONS AS
CONGRESS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE
TECHNOLOGY WILL ENOUGH TO
REGULATE ITSELF.
"HOW DO YOU MAKE MONEY?
"ADVERTISING?
>> ONE PLACE IN KENTUCKY YOU GOT
MITCH McCONNELL SAYING YOU GOT
TO BE 21 THE SMOKE CIGARETTES
AND VAPE.
HERE, YOU SAY THAT MAGIC
MUSHROOMS, WE SHOULD BACK OFF
PROSECUTING PEOPLE FOR
PROSECUTION OF MAGIC MUSHROOMS
RATE LISTEN TO THEIR ARGUMENT.
>> WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH
CONGRESS
DOWN THE CRISIS COMEAU EVEN AT A
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAT
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAR
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAL
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAG
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAO
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAI
YOUNG AGE, WE HAVE SOMETHING NAG
IN THE DIRT, THINGS THAT REALLY
BRING HOPE TO OUR SOCIETY.
IT'S TIME THAT WE START TALKING
ABOUT DRUGS RATHER THAN THIS
WHOLE PROHIBITION ERA THAT HAD
SAID THAT LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT
IT, DON'T DO IT.
>> Martha: WAIT A MINUTE,
MAGIC MUSHROOMS ARE A
HALLUCINOGENIC AND THE SAYING
THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO CHILDREN
FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES LIKE
LIKE I'M CONFUSED.
>> I'M CONFUSED.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING AKIN TO
MARIJUANA THAT'S GIVEN TO SOME
CHILDREN THAT HELPS WITH ADHD
AND OTHER THINGS.
MY CONCERN HERE IS WHAT IS THE
GATEWAY?
THEY AREN'T GOING TO
DECRIMINALIZE THE POSSESSION,
THE SALE, THE TAKING OF THIS
DRUG, BUT THEY NEED TO
DEPRIORITIZE IT.
I ALSO WORRY ABOUT, AS YOU
NORMALIZE SOME OF THESE DRUGS,
SOME OF THE CLASS SEES OR
WHATEVER, WHAT THE PEOPLE DECIDE
WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING, OR
WHATEVER?
I'VE SEEN THIS WITH MARIJUANA
AND OTHER THINGS, I WORRY A
LITTLE BIT AS A MOTHER, WE'VE
GOT MOTHER'S DAY COMING UP.
WHERE ARE THE LINES WHERE YOU
WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE MEDICINE, IF
THIS IS WHAT IT IS, BUT HOW DO
WE KEEP IT OUT?
>> YOU HAVE AN OPIOID ISSUE ON
ONE HAND BIT IN TERMS OF OVERALL
HEALTH ADVICE, GO GLUTEN-FREE,
THE TRANSPARENT FEE, WE START
LEGALIZING DRUGS.
IT'S MIND-BOGGLING.
IS HEROIN NEXT?
>> WHAT I FIND INTERESTING,
THERE'S NO ORGANIZED EFFORT
AGAINST THIS MEASURE.
I FIND THAT FASCINATING BECAUSE
YOU WOULD THINK --
>> PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!
>> ARE THEY SERIOUSLY GOING TO
LEGALIZE MUSHROOMS?
IT IS NOT ADDICTIVE.
SUPPOSEDLY ONE OF THE LEAST NOT
ADDICTIVE.
IT'S MINOR, AND YES IT'S LARGELY
SYMBOLIC AT THIS POINT.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BUT WE
SHOULD FOCUS AT THE REGULATION
REVOLVING AROUND MARIJUANA AND
WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE
REGULATION AND MAYBE MOVE ON TO
MUSHROOMS.
BUT OVERALL --
>> YOU TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE
HEALTHY AIR AND GIVE THEM
HALLUCINOGENIC DRUGS IS NOT THE
BEST WAY.
REAL QUICK, IN DENMARK, WOMEN
SAY THAT THEY WOULD -- THEY ARE
OKAY WITH BEING CAC CALLED ON
THE STREET BY CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS GENERALLY, AND THEY
DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE
CALLED FEMINIST.
>> I THINK WHAT IS A FEMINIST,
RIGHT?
EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT
DEFINITION FOR IT.
THE DEFINITION OF FEMINISM, IF
YOU WANT EQUALITY, I DO NOT
THINK EQUALITY IS ASKING FOR THE
GOVERNMENT TO COME IN AND
DICTATE THE TERMS OF YOUR
EMPLOYMENT WITH INCREASED EQUAL
PAY LEGISLATION, TO ME THAT'S
NOT FEMINISM.
I THINK EQUALITY IS HAVING AN
EQUAL PLAYING FIELD AND I DO NOT
WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THAT
TERM BUT SOMEONE ON THE LEFT WAS
A FEMINISM IS EQUAL PAY
LEGISLATION.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S POLITICAL.
WE CANNOT PRESUME THAT MY
DEFINITION IS UNIVERSAL NOR IS
IT SOCIETY ACCEPTING OF THAT
AMONG VARIOUS SOCIETIES ACROSS
THE GOAL, AND I THINK BEING A
FEMINIST, YOU CAN CALL IT
WHATEVER YOU WANT, I STILL
BELIEVE IN EQUALITY.
I MAY NOT CALL MYSELF A
FEMINIST, IT'S A DEFINITION THAT
WE CAN ALL DEBATE ABOUT.
>> Martha: IN DENMARK, THEY