>> SEVERAL VICTIMS REMAIN HOSPITALIZED AND WE SHOULD NOTE
THIS MARKS THE THIRD MASS SHOOTING IN VIRGINIA IN FEWER
THAN TWO WEEKS. LET'S TAKE YOU TO THE SCENE NOW
WITH CNN'S BRIAN TODD WHO IS LIVE THERE FOR US, BRIAN, WHAT ARE WE
LEARNING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? >> Reporter: RIGHT, BORIS, AND
TO REITERATE THE NEW REPORTING FROM CNN THAT THE SHOOTER'S BEEN
IDENTIFIED AS ANDRE BING, WE GOT A STATEMENT FROM WALMART A SHORT
TIME AGO. I WILL AED READ PART OF IT.
THE WALMART -- THIS IS ACCORDING TO SCOTT POPE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF
GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS WHO SENT CNN A STATEMENT SAYING THE
ALLEGED SHOOTER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ANDRE BING.
WE CAN CONFIRM THAT HE WAS A WALMART ASSOCIATE.
ANDRE'S POSITION WITH THE COMPANY WAS OVERNIGHT TEAM LEAD
EMPLOYED WITH US SINCE 2010 AND SAY THEY ARE THANKFUL FOR THE
FIRST RESPONDERS AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE
CASE. WE HAVE BEEN PRESSING WALMART
ALL DAY ON WHETHER THERE WERE ANY DISCIPLINARY PROCEEDINGS
INITIATED AGAINST THIS EMPLOYEE OR WHETHER ANY OTHER EMPLOYEES
HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT HIM. BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN AN
ANSWER FROM WALMART ON THAT YET. BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS AN
ACCOUNT FROM BRIANA TYLER, AN EMPLOYEE WHO EARLIER SPOKE TO
ABC NEWS AND WAS TELLING US THAT THE SHOOTER WAS A MANAGER WHO
SHE WAS TOLD TO, QUOTE, LOOK OUT FOR BECAUSE THERE WAS ALWAYS
SOMETHING GOING ON WITH HIM. JUST HAVING ANG ISSUE WITH
SOMEONE, END QUOTE. SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN
GATHERED WITH HER CO-WORKERS IN A BREAK ROOM JUST BEFORE THEIR
SHIFT STARTED. SHE LOOKED UP AND HER MANAGER
OPENED THE DOOR, WHEN THEY SAW THE SHOOTER OPENING FIRE, SHE
SAID. SHE TOLD ABC THAT HE WAS NOT
AIMING AT ANYONE SPECIFICALLY, THAT HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING
WHILE SHOOTING. AND THAT HE LOOKED DIRECTLY AT
HER. BUT MISSED HER HEAD BY AN INCH
OR TWO BUT THIS WAS AN ACCOUNT FROM AN EMPLOYEE WHO SAYS THAT
SHE WAS TOLD TO LOOK OUT FOR HIM.
AGAIN, WE HAVE PRESSED WALMART ON THAT TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAD
COMPLAINED ABOUT HIM. IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS
SAID OR ENACTED. ANY COMPLAINTS FILED ABOUT HIM
TO WALMART THAT MAYBE HAD NOT BEEN ACTED UPON.
THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO THAT YET OR QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER
ANY DISCIPLINARY PROCEEDINGS HAD BEEN INITIATED BUT WE DO HAVE
THE NAME OF THE SUSPECT ANDRE BING AND ACCORDING TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS HE KILLED SIX INSIDE THE STORE AND THEN
TURNED THE GUN ON HIMSELF. BORIS, WE WERE TOLD BY POLICE HE
USED A PISTOL AND PRESSED THEM ON WHETHER OTHER WEAPONS WERE
USED. THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
OTHER WEAPONS, BORIS. >> WE APPRECIATE YOU PRESSING
FOR THOSE ANSWERS. >>> LET'S DISCUSS FURTHER NOW
WITH FORMER FBI SENIOR PROFILER MARY ELLEN O'TOOLE AND JENNIFER
MA MASIHA AT "THE TRACE."
MARY ELLEN, I WANTED TO START WITH YOU.
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS JUST STARTING TO SHARE MORE DETAILS NOW.
WHAT STOOD OUT TO YOU ABOUT THIS INCIDENT AND HEARING FROM THAT
EMPLOYEE WHO WAS TOLD TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT MANAGER?
WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU? >> WELL, A COUPLE THINGS STAND
OUT AND THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE SHOOTER WALKED INTO THE
BREAK AREA WHERE HE KNEW HIS EMPLOYEES WERE LIKELY TO BE AND
STARTED SHOOTING. THAT CERTAINLY SUGGESTS
PLANNING. THINKING AHEAD OF TIME HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY THIS OUT AND THEN SECONDLY WITH THE
EMPLOYEES SAYING THAT SHE HAD BEEN FOREWARNED THAT THERE WAS
SOME ISSUES ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL SUGGEST THAT THERE
MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS FORMALLY FILED WITH WALMART
ABOUT THIS PERSON AND THEIR BEHAVIOR.
>> AND, JENNIFER, WHEN POLICE LAID OUT THE TIME LINE, I
THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING. THERE WERE FOUR MINUTES BETWEEN
THE 911 CALL AND POLICE ENTERING THE STORE.
THAT'S A RELATIVELY FAST RESPONSE TIME.
WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU THAT THE SHOOTER IN THAT SHORT WINDOW WAS
ABLE TO INFLICT THAT MUCH DAMAGE WITH A PISTOL?
>> WELL, HE WAS APPARENTLY IN A BREAK ROOM AT CLOSE RANGE, BUT
THE MAJORITY OF GUN VIOLENCE AND MASS SHOOTINGS ARE PERPETRATED
WITH HANDGUNS, THEY ARE CONCEALABLE.
HE WAS ABLE TO GET THAT FAR BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WALK IN WITH
AN AR-15 BUT PLUMABLY WITH A HANDGUN CONCEALED UNDER ACE
CLOTHES. >> WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS AT
THIS MOMENT FROM AN INVES INVESTIGATIVE STANDPOINT?
CLEARLY MOTIVE BUT THE OTHER THING THAT STRIKES ME THE JAWEED
AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW AND WITNESS SPEAKING IN ALMOST
MATTER OF FACT TONES ABOUT THIS. AS IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY TALK
ABOUT ALL THE TIME. >> RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT IS PART OF OUR CULTURE AND A PART OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN THEIR 20s AND 30s. WE DON'T CALL THEM GENERATION
LOCKDOWN FOR NOTHING. THE 20-YEAR-OLDS LIKE THE WOMAN
OR THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM LOOKED LIKE TALKING TO, 20 AND 30,
THEY'RE USED TO -- A GENERATION USED TO THE IDEA OF MASS
SHOOTINGS IN A WAY THAT I THINK PEOPLE IN THEIR 40s AND 50s ARE
NOT TALKED LIKE THAT AND ALSO IN SHOCK SO I THINK THEIR
DESCRIPTION MAY SEEM OFFPUTTING BUT IT MAY BE THEY HAVEN'T
PROCESSED WHAT THEY WERE CLOSE TO.
IT IS NARROWING, THE INVESTIGATION.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND WALMARTS ARE LARGE.
IT NOW APPEARS THAT THEY -- HE'S KNOWN, THE REASON WHY HE WAS AT
THE STORE IS KNOWN. MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THE TRIGGER
BUT WE KNOW THE WEAPON AND THE VICTIMS ARE AN ISOLATED GROUP,
UNFORTUNATELY, SO THE INVESTIGATION WILL MOSTLY AND
YOU HAVE A DEAD KILLER SO NO TRIAL.
SO THE INVESTIGATION MOSTLY WILL GO TO MOTIVE AT THAT PARTICULAR
MOMENT, WHAT ISSUES HE WAS GOING THROUGH AND THEN ALSO WHAT KIND
OF SUPERVISORS KNEW HIM. THAT WILL BE INVESTIGATED AS
WELL. >> YOU WATCH THEM PLAY OUT AND,
AGAIN, I CAN'T FIND THE RIGHT WORD FOR THIS, I GET DEPRESSED
EVERY TIME YOU DO ONE OF THESE STORIES, AND SOMETIMES YOU THINK
YOU DO SO MANY YOU WOULD LEARN TO BLAZE THROUGH IT.
A GRAPHIC. 20 MASS SHOOTINGS INVOLVING
CASUALTIES OF FIVE OR MORE FATALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
THERE HAVE BEEN 600 PLUS MASS SHOOTINGS IN 2022.
SAVE ME THE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WE NEED TO DO MORE --
>> A LOT OF US DID NOT REST WELL AND WILL NOT UNTIL WE GET A
HANDLE ON THIS GUN VIOLENCE. FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
SAYING THAT THEIR HEARTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THESE PEOPLE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE ABOUT THAT UNTIL THEY GET
SERIOUS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION.
>> IN THIS CASE THE CONGRESS IS NOT POISED TO DO ANYTHING AT THE
MOMENT. IN THE CASE OF A SEMI ASSAULT
WEAPON YOU HAVE ONE CONVERSATION.
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO WORKED THERE WALKING IN WITH A PISTOL AS YOU
HEARD ONE OF THE WITNESSES SAYING A MANAGER SHE'S BEEN TOLD
TO WATCH OUT FOR SO ANGER ISSUES OF SOME KIND.
ANYTHING HERE FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE
DONE? >> WELL, THE DIFFICULT POLICY
ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTRY OR INDIVIDUAL STATES
WANT TO TRY TO RESTRICT ACCESS TO WEAPONS FROM A LAW
ENFORCEMENT HOMELAND SECURITY PERSPECTIVE IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO
IDENTIFY WHETHER THERE ARE WARNING SIGNS AND HAVING FAMILY
AND FRIENDS BRING THAT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND VIRGINIA STATE
POLICE WANT PEOPLE TO BRING INDIVIDUALS TO THEM AND BRING
WARNINGS SO THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT POTENTIALLY CAN HAVE A BETTER
IDEA OF HOW TO PREVENT IT BUT, AT THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN
SECURITY WE DID A SURVEY OF A FOCUSED GROUP OF CROSS SECTION
OF AMERICANS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE PEOPLE MOST AFRAID
OF. MASS SHOOTINGS BY FAR TOP THE
LIST. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE
TIMING OF WHEN COULD WE ACTUALLY DO THIS SURVEY WE THOUGHT, WELL,
THERE WAS JUST THE -- WE DID IT LAST SUMMER.
THERE WAS JUST THE BUFFALO SHOOTING AND THEN WE LOOKED AT,
WELL, WHAT IF WE WAITED A COUPLE WEEKS AND WOULD HAVE RUN INTO
HIGHLAND PARK AND CHICAGO AND THIS HAPPENS CONSTANTLY IN
AMERICA. >> HAPPENS CONSTANTLY IN HAPPEN.
JULIETTE, CARRIE MENTIONED BUFFALO, THAT WAS A SUPERMARKET.
THIS IS A WALMART. AMONG THE SOFTER TARGETS
ESPECIALLY IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON, EMPLOYEES GOING IN AND
OUT, PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT AND SOMEONE CARRYING A PISTOL, EASY
TO CONCEAL. >> YES, I MEAN, LOOK, THERE IS
NO SOCIETY THAT YOU AND I WANT TO LIVE IN WHERE YOU CAN BE
SAFE, RIGHT, BECAUSE -- WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN?
IT MEANS YOUR EXPERIENCE GOING TO THE STORE OR WALKING DOWN THE
STREET WOULD BE SO FORTIFIED IT'S NOT EVEN WORTH IT ANYMORE
SO THE IDEA THAT WE CAN GET -- THAT WE CAN DEFEND OUR WAY INTO
THE SOLUTION IS RIDICULOUS AT THIS STAGE.
THIS IS A WALMART. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF
SECURITY THEY HAVE AT THE DOOR BUT IT WAS AN INSIDE THREAT.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO STOP A MANAGER HELL BENT ON WANTING TO
KILL EMPLOYEES SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A NEVER ENDING
CONVERSATION ABOUT GUN CONTROL BUT I THINK CARRIE AND I ARE
ALSO REFLECTING ON A SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO
ADMIT IT THAT WITHOUT THAT GUN LEGISLATION, IT IS GOING TO TAKE
A STEPPING UP BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FAMILY MEMBERS ABOUT
WHETHER SOMEONE IN THEIR MIDST IS A THREAT.
THEY HAVE GOT TO CONSIDER THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT
WISH IT AWAY. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW IN THE
ABSENCE OF CONTROL OVER GUN AND GUN USAGE AND RESPONSIBLE GUN
OWNERSHIP AT THIS STAGE.