alone but we're going to what the placard discussion if true detective the
finale
up season 1 the controversial apparently finale
above season one called a party for got warm and void
more and avoid whatever it's not a big deal just been made with love that are
all in
charlie black up Brad Carter
the actor Brad Carter is here Brad played that charlie laine you're into
episodes to really
great great scenes with the both with Picasa hey and
and harrelson i cant believe youre not
from louisiana after I went back and watched the scene in episode one
again last night you're the guy who made me watch with close care
I cuz you yeah the Louisiana was so good it was so
this guy a jumbo survey of course there's no I was like I don't know
exactly
exclaiming to know every single word and those guys
got more Cajun
in there in when talking to you original
which is another side the the way people do your help people with their reactions
of a sudden
oh yeah they were talking and having I love them so you can always tell the
whole
a.m. when I come back ed I'm always sticker is a great thinker
or from on the phone with my mother on I will we got a lot to talk about with the
new and and your career let's start with are
thoughts on this anxiously awaited finale
really I think you know I'm comfortable saying this one season one of the 10
best season of the television I've ever seen
on you know I don't know I break up but it's in there it's gotta beat up 12
but sweet 16 no I so
today out there talking with some of the other guys at the Young Turks crew there
was a
like they didn't everyone thought
brushed had to die and when he didn't
I think it bothers some people I like
that I so positive that he was gonna die the didn't
and this notion is Marty says at the end like
when they take him out of the hospital yeah okay cuz you're it turns out your
fuckin unkillable prom you know I I like
I don't know I i I like that but I was certainly surprised by
it didn't bother me that he didn't I didn't I guy I thought he was gonna die
too
arm II you know I'm okay with with them to you that we didn't feel like a cheat
what bugs me is that we hit this character who such a fascinating
nihilist
and then in the at the end the last episode you know
he's seen the other side and now suddenly have all this perspective
anne's
I i feel we've become a lot less interesting because now he's just
another
person who thinks that there's an after life and I don't know I just about all
that we can achieve
butterfly can be handed a copy that three-year-olds book you know heaven is
real or something it is
I don't know it felt like kinda betrayal this really interesting characters we
don't get on TV a lot
this guy with his very bleak view I love the universe and
and our place in it to i watch cosmos after this summer
that made me feel very minuscule arms as I know that that let me down
I was disappointed with how
straightforward this finale was because they set up
crazy shit they set up the yellow King and this
in this conspiracy that goes who knows how high
in the in the louisiana church and government you know
and all this really complicated step that you would think would lead to
a an ending that would be described as satisfying they didn't
it didn't go far enough in explaining things are there when often is really
weird
paranormal directions or something but this is kinda felt like no we go we find
the guy based on this one
out of nowhere clue with the house paint and then
ban we kill a man we're not after the and that belt
not as credibility betrayal
how complicated and in mashed everything had been up until this point
bread you've seen it before you I only got to rate to
episode 5 so became a fan I mean icons like I'm sorry I'm sorry
like everybody else yeah man Reggie Lee do actually got together launched a hot
hit I I got to be friends with him on Twitter actually
area and were is real nice guy actually Helford and Leah
which with made it a point to just get together and watch the show
but we get to watch together last night cuz I was in the ER
this occurs I motorcycle at the motorcycle accident that happened you're
sort of you and your girl right down the street somebody cut you off
he took a wide turn what down only be saved her
and I pulled the gun out yeah now
now you wouldn't you would hope it would be something that call but instead I was
just back now the dry well
yeah it's happened and bet mine the
that way and it doesn't go that way I'll
so I your reaction that as a fan you became a fan
your reaction to the finale charges were you surprised by it and put it up
well yeah i mean you know cuz I don't know what was going on so I didn't have
an expectation that they come
I'm with you on I I I had hoped
in my heart that rust was gonna find he was gonna die which
which were at the same time bring him peace that he so desperately needs
on so I was surprised I was actually surprised
that he didn't die and on
our step on any toes here with my opinions but
on I wish she died yeah I
let me tell you why I love why I didn't see it that way
you did that he didn't all of a sudden believe in a glorious afterlife
I thought like because again like his torture continues he
get he let go like he had this moment that I presume people at I didn't see it
as a
a literal you know light but whatever when it when you're
when your body has been violated the way his head when you close that vortex in
their right mind would seem that he'd seen studio but now he sees things
you see you think you've seen it before when he was driving arm
so I didn't I saw that as him being deprived
love what he wanted he said okay great this is it my dad and my
my girl finally my little girl I'll let go this is what I want I got nothing
here I thought he was gonna have lung cancer
litter at thought he was gonna tell us at some point that he had a month and a
half to live any way that he was like
am I getting chemo me to keep drinking whiskey and smoking cigarettes and this
is how I'm gonna go out with assaulting
lady looks sick enough for that certainly so in a sense I was like
like again he's being deprived of what he wanted there's nothing glorious about
his survival
it's a bit tortured for a bright but it's not like he's not ever going to die
I mean he the one day that day with you
that they will eventually come for Emily's now we know that something that
you can kinda look forward to and that it is always looking forward to it he
always said
you know I got this thing and I needed I need to tie it off which is line another
yes but I think but a bit video is whole thing about timing in a circle or
whatever you know I I kinda feel like now at least he has this thing
to die for I don't know is it it doesn't do it the same guy
don't satisfying to absorb a lot of people out there who all love the show
and I tried to talk him into it be an hour
I was a I was so surprised by it you know i mean when he get
call so that wasn't met with a knife wound that kills people
ninety-nine percent of the time in movies yeah I got what I was a long
night movie or I can be when up
yeah I pick them up my mother's step in this is like you know
win-win Coles wife and daughter show up
that kinda felt like 03 March parts are right
so now everything's okay they were you I'd almost dying
versa races all the stuff the they were all this up with 20 worth were led to
think that the older daughter somehow was tied in the things because the
putting the dolls with Sir Colin the the me know
the the the intimations of sexual abuse confused with the boys
II anything like a lot of stuff they decided yet
you know it's like chekhov takes 10 guns out of the drawer the beginning in fires
one of them you know
I guess why not personal I did not take it as
courses family came to solve the issue he one easy giant hero for the second
time in 17 years
I solving this case well getting nearly killed
doing it then yeah look they hadn't seen him for a couple years
bar year yet but they had seen him before
a family's gonna go visit their father what he's in the hospital
and I to him saw and his break down there where he cried like
like man look what I I don't think I've got anything back she's you know if they
all and i jus got the English guy I like I
is right outside drop them off their so it's like I all these things that he
lost that he doesn't have I didn't
I took that is a nice moment but that's a lot to get here
no bread yeah hold you to that but I admitted they did they did remind me
though that
with the daughters they seemed there there seem to be intimations UHV
there were some plot there that the the wind up not being anything in there was
a lot of me it turns out misdirection
because we didn't yeah we didn't get when I
but again I guess look I'm a sucker for what went down then because I didn't
want any of that stuff I don't care about the Loki don't care about the
Crown's
I don't care about the I don't at I like Marty
who had a great moment when Gill bar
and the banya in are explaining the case to him and he's like
a today the big day at 10 a.m. we're all adults here I I don't care
I yeah it's only five yeah I i've been trying not to read articles where they
talk about would be above beforehand the words or interact with the energy going
to be
but I did see a headline the talked about how the creator the show
had been a writer on that person to the killing
which pissed so many people are because it had that kind of non ending you know
and so I wonder if he may be went too far in the other direction have like
we're just gonna we're gonna give you a through line and that's it
and and and I just II it felt like
this was a show that was so smart and so interesting
and I mean the characters that I love how they they tie up the
the Russian calls topic thats you know what burp
make it the rusty rusty Marty Marty yeah
I you know that call hard cold hardy s okay
collector great that we are I love how they're all get tyramine %uh the show
always there was operating on two levels above the their story and the
the case so as far as the personal stuff yes i'm i'm
I'm I'm happy with how those two characters where the I don't I remember
love where they ended up but I at least
that build resolved in a way like it or not but it is resolved
but for the case a show this smart and a show that was
flirting with so many kind have darker ideas in literary ideas and
conspiratorial ideas it be does feel like a letdown they just kinda like what
we got this one guy BAM
we may not have gotten everybody but we're not gonna be even be into me what
everybody is or more
what all that what what the web is we got this guy but we're done
adios in bread you anywhere we knew you were you handle a playoff spot know who
these guys that were you satisfied
a maniac really you can join and yeah I'm an actor as a I want people working
and I i like everybody
and everything I the just as a
from fanned point of view or getting washed to show by
I was I was satisfied I'm
you okay the heel that they both lived okay and
okay so then I was I was happy that they ended at least in a friendship and you
get to at least say that okay these guys have
each other they have really nothing else and this broad couple came together and
in the and the all they have is each other looks like
real threat yeah and so thats that somewhat satisfying for taking about a
from A+
a just what happens these characters after the
after the show ends I the yellow Kingston me with me my girl from both on
the
we were I know I don't like ivory for 56 minutes when he was going through
yep cargoes a great and when he when he jumped out at me I mean I I knew as soon
as he saw a
as a starter have wanted his visions there that that was going to be trouble
I'm but he was being lowered in like you knew that that mean you knew the whole
time
that the he was gonna get you that that Childress was gonna get him
in some capacity why I always I always thought I called a long time was like
older he's gonna die in court yeah me too I'm sinbad
so pastor meet with in this episode like they set up the whole thing where
Childress is this may make
or whatever you start stalking by James Mason after watching 10 seconds ago by
North wells he's at.
is it easy and popular welfare right yes I mean yeah
um but the you know I thought okay so maybe that means maybe there were some
misleading phone call that happened earlier that he was you know doing
no mount nothing to say what I didn't bother with any that because
like this was always a police case and these were
Dom ignorant a a
a psychopathic
hillbillies and they're done and they got away with it because they live in a
world where was really easy
where that though life there on the Gulf
isn't that important and around the soul which he uses answer just
easy for people disappear nobody did anything about it nobody really cared it
was easy to
it was fairly easy to do that like it's crazy that they got away with this many
killings
so at that so so the whole thing with with what is Steve on the boat is that
somebody higher up from him was covering up the disappearance om
a murder plot no girl yeah you know to again like
don't give us all this conspiracy and then just bring it down to one
go on like me to obey going t shirt stained hick
in the middle of nowhere like they're right but he was the orchestrator about
any been planning for this big finale at some point
they I think he was probably as surprised as anybody that
cap desist I get to keep killing people like they haven't
they kill the wrong guy they killed your mom your buddy reggie you know where's
and also
of course what marty has to live with that he doesn't kill reggie
they uncover that in i five could read you want to talk
eventually to save himself what a name some other people
and they would have been able to break the case that year yeah I'd
no I i will. I'm I was with you on that kinda want to see a little more
love how far that conspiracy when because obviously there's a lot of
family
there's some some family cover-ups of going out some people in high places
we get there one line from the TV news lady about the senator denies being
related I i think i
you know it I i'm just get the feeling that they ran outta episodes that there
was more store and they had to try to cram
I'll some a lot of information and one I felt like
left my show about you know Robert Abel is usually here with us
a that it was a show about the marriage love
rust Mr to get that and the case wasn't ultimately always
that important and I think from herb cop pointed you haven't
whatever I'm no expert but cover enough cops read about enough cops that was
special in a long-running case like that
that when the break comes the break comes ended and the
where and everything opens up and it is often completely random and I liked
you know he's got we got a look at it like we're totally green and that
triggered Marty to remember a photo because they've all look at those photos
so
I bought that but you know I didn't you talk about this being the last episode
I media when we're watching the Oscars every time there was some dumb
montage or whatever your the Gateway this could have been
angela lansbury time I could be there and so there is a job at Chase at the
end up with threw that out
that's 10 minutes they could have used 5 over that to
give us something else plot he you know this love
better to tie up the men's room is where things instead of just
the top that with a lot of time spent talking one guy
through appeal that mean you're a TV show case more who was related to an who
more and more good leadership because I think the show was
equally about the marriage and the case and
there were times I okay this is just going to be about these two guys
and the cases or by the by and then you'd get a very plot heavy episode or
something would happen where
they were both operating on an equal level so I i feel like
that the equanimity collapsed in this episode it did
in adult humor in the NFL though there were moments de Lesseps oh where I can
see that just felt like a cop show
yeah and they were at which it never ever felt like before I always felt like
sending money to support now the only because bill
the show was raising the bar like crazy proper Saban I mean
every week was smart and unpredictable and
you know you provocative and and so well I couldn't so well-written
so that's only if I'm if I'm sounding pissed now it only because
you know I'd the show hadn't had trained me to expect more from it I guess
you killed it as as Charlie and I suspect that you are they
if you haven't already the stuff that's going to happen for you good that
miss seems inevitable casting directors are that dumb so
a suspect there's some good stuff in your future thanks man
there thanks Graham thank you make sure it's to
I and the hope everybody a here love letters into when there is one
yet which is apparently I just shred today that it's the
reaches over stone and stacey dash sack together
yeah a whole year sandra bernhardt
Brad Leibowitz but I'll take what I can get on well with its Reggie and Charlie
all your cell on the saw it but it doesn't feel horrible
causing either drives thank you