They always say,
“I love you in Bad Boys.”
Yeah, yeah.
We got Huge Boys once, didn’t we?
We did, we’re getting bigger and bigger.
That was at Margate Pride, wasn't it?
“I loved you in Huge Boys.”
Yeah.
So, yeah,
I think our interactions
with people
they’ve been fun.
Yeah, keep them coming.
Hi, I’m Dylan Llewellyn
and I'm Jon Pointing.
And this is behind the scenes
on the Big Boys
Attitude cover shoot.
Season two compared
to season one.
Well, we haven't seen season two yet.
Yeah, I would say
like, on a personal level,
season one was amazing
and we had this
incredible time
and we sort of bonded,
but we still essentially
had only just
kind of met each other.
So, season two felt like
it was just
really enjoyable
because we sort of
knew each other.
We were kind
of comfortable.
A lot of the crew
came back,
so we pretty much
had the same crew.
Yeah, and
a few new faces as well.
But that was like
perfect balance.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was,
I mean,
both shoots were so fun,
but yes,
season two is just a bit
more comfortability
because of, yeah.
And you just savour
it all a bit more
because, you know,
the first time around
you just,
you’re all sort of a bit
in the headlights.
You're just kind of
trying to get
through it.
And then this time
I really sort of
enjoyed, like,
I love it when we do
scenes together,
especially when we’re
just sat down
and we can like,
maybe Katy Wix
is being funny
and we can just sort of
sit there and laugh.
Yeah.
They filled the world out
more like, obviously,
you know,
we sort of established
the sort of
uni world
and the
the hope,
like Jack's home
life and
storylines about
the characters
were kind of sort
of alluded to,
but this series,
I think we get
to sort of meet
some of those people
that are mentioned
and sort of
see the kind of back story,
if you like.
Everyone’s characters is
just filled out more.
That was
what was so good
about this series,
is like seeing,
and being able
to work more
with the other
characters, like,
you know, Izuka
and Olisa
and Harriet and stuff.
So...
Exactly.
I think, yeah,
you just delve
deeper into
the characters’ lives more
and you see more
the arc of their story
and with my character,
with Jack,
I think you see a bit
more of a mature
version of Jack
and he's like learning
so much more.
And yeah, he's
coming out of his shell
more because
he's come out of the closet
and he's
still learning lots from
Yemi,
he's like his sensei
kind of thing.
Second year counts.
Exactly.
Second year counts.
So they got to start working a little bit,
taking things a bit
more seriously.
That's true.
Yeah.
And you meet
you meet some
there's some
new characters
that you meet
some of Danny's family,
which was really fun to do.
Yeah, it was...
is that enough?
Is that enough for you?
Just watch it.
So how does it feel
to represent
the sort of straight,
gay male friendship?
It's kind of like
the thing that
about the show
that I feel
sort of most connected to
that’s most important to me.
My friendship
with real Jack
in real life,
I feel, is that,
you know, my friendship
with a lot of
my friends,
it’s, I don’t know,
it’s difficult one
to sort of say really
because it
is a different kind
of relationship
than I have
with, say, my
straight friends
or like with women. It’s...
you know,
it just is different
and in a really sort of
great way.
So it's
nice to kind of
represent
that relationship.
Definitely,
especially as, yeah,
you don't really see it
enough on TV.
So it's really,
really good to see more
because it's just true.
It's such true to life.
Was it
the first time we met
was on the pilot?
I think
it must have been, you know?
I think it was.
I did the chemistry read
with Camille,
who plays my mum, Peggy.
But yeah, you did
a chemistry read
with a Izuka.
Yeah.
That was,
yeah,
before the first season.
Yeah, I did
chemistry read for Izuka’s role
for Corinne, but
I guess
we were just so good.
They were just like,
“It's obviously
these two”
“These two will obviously get on.”
Yeah.
[What was it like
your first day on set?]
Do you know what
I can only remember
from the pilot.
It's because
obviously we shoot
in Westminster University
in northwest London
where Jack went to uni.
I remember
they opened
a canteen for us.
That's the only bit
I remember at the pilot,
and we sat with Camille
and she told us about
our star signs.
That’s it.
And like
star sign animal.
Yes, our spirit animal.
Mine was a penguin, I think.
I think it was.
Do you remember yours?
No, I can't remember.
Wasn't Camille's like,
something weird,
like an octopus?
Definitely had
a lot of people
reaching out that had
perhaps
sort of been
touched by the show
or they were
struggling themselves.
And I'm sort of aware
that I'm,
you know, I'm in
no position
to sort of be
an authority
on mental health.
I think the process
of shooting it
and some of the scenes
that I have to do
are sort of that
process is
sort of quite...
It's not in any kind
of actor-y way
that is private.
But yeah, I guess
I don't know
if I've really, yeah,
I don't know.
It's a difficult one
for me to
understand really fully.
Yeah,
I think it's
just common, you know,
and it's just
it's really important
that that stuff
is being shown,
you know?
And I think
Jon portrays it
so well.
It's good to talk. Yeah.
And that is a sort
of big message
and especially
amongst men.
But to the point where
I've heard the words
‘mental health’
come out of my dad's
mouth in alone,
that's progress.
Just hearing him
say those words
means that
there is
progress happening.
And that's great,
but also, obviously men,
and I'm generalising,
do have a habit
of kind of labelling
something
“that means it's sorted,
we’re good.
We've done an advert
about Let's Talk,
let's move on.”
And I think
the key thing
and that's again
something that
was brought up in series two,
the idea
that it's good to talk,
but we need to know
what to say
when people need to talk.
Like, what do we say?
Where are these places
and people
that they can talk to
and stuff?
Definitely
especially as,
a lot of
men bottle things up
so it can be just,
yeah, tough
to take those steps.
But Big Boys
tells that story
beautifully of
opening up, you know?
People have
gone through grief
in some way or another,
whether it be
a family member,
whether it
be a friend
and I, yeah...
it's a tough,
tough subject
and I
think it's such credit
to Jack
for him
to tell his story
so well
and with so much heart.
It’s really beautiful to see.
And yeah,
I'm so proud
to be
a part of this show,
to talk about
that stuff. Yeah.
And it feels like
we were able to kind of
do it and confront it.
Yeah.
Again in a way that was
where you
because, yeah, it's,
it's difficult, isn't it?
It‘s a difficult area
and with actors as well
like people
sort of
want you to sort of
use your real stuff
which is,
it’s a dangerous line
sometimes.
So I think we,
we were lucky
that we were in
an environment
that really
looked after,
Everyone looked after each other.
Yeah, really,
it really was a
really good, safe
space for everyone with that.
that is for
no reason other
than that.
So educate and make
you know, you
said hopefully
the way that
you tried
that you had to get off.
I got this at your house
I this happens.
All right, guys
interestingly.
But
yeah it's
yeah
yes
yeah.
That's exactly.
It's like yes,
I have had.
Marcus, Marcus, Emily.
Nice to meet me here,
Joe.
I did some
behind the scenes
to help me.
The sheets, which is a
they tend to just be at
the jockey. Yeah.
Hold the jacket.
Just enough for.
Now. Yeah.
You got to have
the batteries.
I think you show you
a lot of kudos.
I'm tired.
Just
got here
trying to finish
destroying the set,
the jacket.
That's
all right.
So, yeah.
It was good to get.
The
people on the roof
they had of floor.
Really.
And
do you do anything?
But don't
you.
yeah, Yeah.
Very nice
and
gentle.
Path to the screen.
Yeah.
There's a
way to do the opposite.
Yeah.
The movie
is,
is it
would be great for me to
just stay
time
that.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you think
is
my response
to the matter. Yeah.
And I think that happens
to me this
I need to keep
your plan.
All right? It's over.
I think I've missed it.
And that goes.
Yes,
I.
That
I went
feels right.
But this all goes out
that nobody does.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
She looks good.
And
I'm another
so something like that.
Like,
you know,
you were playing with me
just shocking people
when they just came out.
But I have
another question
for you.
Yeah. Yeah.
What's the relationship
like there?
Yeah, the
I think for
video, it just gets
in your face.
Everybody
comes down
to each other.
Yeah. Well.
And the one yesterday.
I know, you know,
I mean they're not
a friendly arms way.
Yeah. Yeah. You like.
That. You got.
That.
I
like pain.
Like.
Okay,
so when you talk about.
Finding your friends,
not in this.
He didn't do anything.
He wasn't
beforehand.
So
know we like
it's a part of us
because. It's.
Not
that it
makes all day long
Matchmaking junket
and what was it like
like he's got
look look at him
with some of
the respect that
Yeah it's.
Leading the.
It's
actually one
he's probably
looking towards
you know
like said like younger
and this sort of thing.
I like the seriousness
of that.
Yes.
She usually
said this is like
you said,
we go
you listen to.
Yeah.
But it's of like
you know
how
it's
that.
Yeah that's cool.
Okay.
The bullying is great
for the bully.
It's great.
It's it's
yeah,
it's
just
all these apologies.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a big deal.
That's why
I say yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Okay. So up
till now
I'm glad hear it's a bad
you take
before,
but
I think video has to be.
Yes.
Perfect.
Maybe next choice
my name
once we we get it
but you're
doing all sorts
for perfect
You may make perfect
but great
for
the
sake of both.
I wanted to make them.
I mean.
Yes, I
on
a look behind
like me,
camerawork.
Like that was nice.
What did she say?
Just a nice thing.
Like tweet or something.
She likes it.
yes, I remember that.
Yeah.
No, I mean, just
you have
all kinds of people just
can identify with it.
And in some way,
whether it be
grief or LGBT, keeps us.
So yeah, it's just so
what we even like
just friendship.
I was going to say,
yeah, the friendship.
A lot of people
reached out about
seeing the sort of
the reverse of it
being the straight
best friend
as opposed to sort of,
you know,
the archetypal gay
best friend character.
So to have that
sort of flipped
and people
really like
respond to that
and sort of,
you know, it's
it was really nice.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people
connected with that.
Do you still get people
stopping you
on the streets even now?
Do you have
any memorable.
Encounters with fans?
I mean, yeah,
just with
with Jack conversations
and and like,
just just
learning about
Jack's life
really is well,
I mean,
obviously provoke
our own personal
experiences with
mental health
and grief and stuff.
But yeah,
I think the key thing
is that like,
yeah,
we do have conversations
and you know,
we're friends,
so we
talk about things
as friends
and as long as there's
a sort of
a space
and the kind of rights
time is given to do
those scenes
in, in a sort of way
that is
protects everyone,
you know,
you, the actor
and everyone else
around.
So as long as everyone
feels, it's a safe
space then,
which it was
then I think it's
kind of fine.
But yeah, I mean,
like I say,
we're friends.
We have these
private conversations
that are private
and then we have
conversations that
are work. So
the show
starts with the.
Characters,
even of the kind
in grief.
How about this
episode dealing
with that,
you know,
again,
with a
more conversations
and set
about dealing
with issues.
So have you what.
The question
have you found this up?
Yeah well
I mean of course
in the different country
basically.
But I mean yeah that was
that was so
I mean they're
both so fun, really.
And yeah,
so it was
different voice,
but it was,
they were both still,
still brilliant.
And yeah,
I love the girls,
I like my sisters.
So and the other.
So yeah.
What was it like
watching the reviews
and people's reactions
for season one?
I, I mean,
it was just
amazing response.
It was so well received
and it's just so,
yeah, it's amazing
to see that and like,
filled with
so much joy to
see that
because it's
such a beautiful show.
And Jack is
just completely
outdone himself
with that.
And it's it's
so nice to see
that the response. Yeah.
Like when you're
shooting something
obviously like
felt really special,
but you know,
you never know.
You sort of
you're in such a bubble
when you're filming.
You become like a family
after that two days.
And so it's nice
that how it felt,
you know, sort of
transmit
to the audience.
It was exactly a lot
like confirmation
like that.
Yeah, exactly.
It was amazing.
And also, like,
it was you know,
it was it was
it was a lot of people
kind of reaching out
because of the sort of.
Have you hidden
subjects in the
in the series which was.
Yeah.
Which was
quite touching.
And, and
you've got
a lovely natural
chemistry on screen.
But what's it like
between
the two of you
offscreen, you know,
when you're
talking about this.
The think
we do.
On set
we have a laugh I mean
what do we do
what we get out to.
We all watched your
vision together.
yeah, that was good fun.
Yeah.
I mean we,
we did a
sweepstake actually.
Yeah, we.
Yeah.
You organised
the Eurovision
sweepstake.
That was really good
country.
Did you have to go?
No,
I got no way.
I'm thinking
of the tennis.
You did another one
for tennis. Yeah.
The Coast Guard
was just trying
to make money.
Get you a bit of.
No. Yeah.
I mean,
that was day
before BAFTAs.
One of those.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That were.
We're very lucky
that we would
get on that we hang out.
But yeah, again,
like I said before,
this series
in particular,
I got to really enjoy
hanging out
with the girls
and working together
and just be just
that little bit
more relaxed
and comfortable
in what we're doing.
So you know,
it's lovely.
And Dylan,
how does that compare
to your experience
on Derry Girls,
which used to be
very different?
Yeah, man.
And the
working with Jack Group,
what's the best part
of working with Joe?
What's the best
part of working out?
He's he's very funny.
He brings the energy.
He brings the crash
back up.
He has another crash.
Yeah, he brings
the rollercoaster ride.
No, he's really, really
he is
a lights out the room.
He just is funny.
He's funny all day long.
He he's.
But not only that, he's
just so
amazing to work with.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's just like
we feel so
comfortable to,
to, to ask him
about, like,
our characters,
like, notes
and things like,
do you think
I should try this?
You think?
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
He's very collaborative.
Him and the director.
Yeah.
They've got, like,
a real good
shorthand now.
And, you know, he's.
I mean, he's incredible.
He's. He's not easy.
Okay, good.
He's super.
He's really lovely.
He's.
He's very smart
and very funny.
And there's obviously,
as we just said,
there's lots of really
heavy subjects
in the show.
And I really am
grateful
that Jack's there
on those days
because
he's really loving
and sort of calm.
But also you can see
how much it means to him
and that makes of it
kind of feel worthwhile.
And because it's
a coming of age
and what
coming of age
and Uganda,
when you were
growing up,
that someone
maybe inspired
you with this.
Coming of age
shows like comedies.
Yeah, I Inbetweeners.
I Remember Inbetweeners.
I was never quite
I was never like a huge
maybe I'm a bit
older than you
or that skins.
I just look like this
look like
I was
I couldn't relate to
that was like,
that is not
what my social life
looks like.
It's. Yeah, yeah.
They growing up.
Yeah exactly.
So I,
I think I
did not go to orgies.
Yeah.
Smoking fags
behind the shop
that was about
as exciting as it got.
Yeah.
Wow, that's great.
I mean, this current
kind of war
coming of age
things, I'm
trying to think of
other shows
that were sort of
coming of age shows
of yeah,
trust me,
this sometimes there's
a bit of fresh meat
in Big boys.
You know,
I think that was a
that was a
that was a good one.
Yeah.
The no freshman.
Freshmen
trust the answer.
It's a very
thank you for it.
It was a different
interview to do.
Amazing, cool.
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