THIS.
BACK TO YOU.
BRIAN: WE HAVE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE VIVEK RAMASWAMI HERE
TO WEIGH IN.
I WANT TO GET TO THIS AI.
I FIND THIS STORY CHILLING IN
THE CONTEXT OF A LARGER
CONVERSATION.
ELON MUSK MAKING SOME NEWS BY
SAYING WE NEED TO REGULATE AI
LIKE WE DO A LOT OF PRODUCT
THAT MIGHT BE UNSAFE.
WE LOOK AT REGULATORY
BUREAUCRACY AND I SEE A LOT OF
THINGS THAT I WOULDN’T WANT
INVOLVED IN AI.
HOW DO WE THINK OF DEALING WITH
THIS?
>> IT SIMILAR TO GAIN OF
FUNCTION RESEARCH.
WE HAVE CREATED A GLOBAL
PANDEMIC.
WITH AI, IN THE NAME OF
PROVIDING TOOLS THAT CAN HELP
HUMAN BEINGS LIVE BETTER LIVES,
WE MAY CREATE REAL HUMAN RISKS.
ELON MUSK IS CORRECT TO PUT HIS
FINGER ON THE PROBLEM BUT
HERE’S THE THING.
WE CANNOT ADOPT CONSTRAINT IN
THE UNITED STATES, IF SAY
PLACES LIKE CHINA ARE NOT
ADOPTING THOSE SAFE
CONSTRAINTS.
THE GAME OF FUNCTION RESEARCH
STORY ENDED UP IN THE SAME
PLACE WHERE IT ENDED UP BEING
THE WUHAN LAB EVEN THOUGH WE
BANNED IT HERE THAT GAVE US A
GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
WE WILL NOT ACCOMPANY ANYTHING
BY PUTTING A STRAITJACKET ON
THE UNITED STATES OF PLACES
LIKE CHINA ARE NOT ADOPTING THE
SAME CONSTRAINTS.
BRIAN: IS AT FULL THROTTLE,
DON’T HOLD BACK?
>> WE NEED LEADERSHIP ON THIS
WHERE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO ADOPT
THE SAME CONSTRAINTS AT THE
SAME TIME OR THE US WILL BE AT
A DISADVANTAGE BUT I THINK
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS, HUMAN
BEINGS RESPONSE TO THE AI.
HUMAN BEINGS HAVE A RESPONSE TO
SAY AI BECAUSE IT IS AN
AUTHORITY, IT IS NOT.
WE NEED TO TRAIN THE NEXT
GENERATION TO SEE THAT JUST
BECAUSE IT IS AI DOESN’T MEAN
IT IS TRUE.
TAYLOR: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA.
IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT, HOW DO
YOU THINK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY,
ECONOMIC TIES, WE CAN’T
DECOUPLE, HOW DO YOU THINK OF
THAT RELATIONSHIP?
>> I DISAGREE.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DECOUPLE FROM CHINA AND HERE’S
THE CHALLENGE.
EVEN WITH REAGAN AND THE USSR
WE NEVER RELIED ON THE SOVIET
UNION FOR THE SHOES ON OUR FEET
OR THE PHONES IN OUR POCKETS.
WE ARE RELYING ON THE MODERN
WAY OF LIFE.
CODEPENDENT RELATIONSHIPS DO NOT END WELL.
NOT END WELL.
WHO AND THAT FIRST.
AND DECOUPLING FROM CHINA, DOES
NOT ENSURE THAT TO THE US.
SOUTH KOREA, INDIA, THAILAND,
AUSTRALIA, VIETNAM AND BRAZIL
AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD,
WE MAKE THIS OUT TO BE MORE
DIFFICULT THAN IT IS.
I WILL SIT ACROSS THE TABLE
FROM XI JINPING AND TELL HIM WE
ARE PREPARED TO GO THE DISTANCE
OF BANNING MOST US BUSINESSES
FROM DOING BUSINESS IN CHINA.
NUMBER THE ELECTORAL PROPERTY
THEFT, WE ARE DONE WITH IT,
CHINA IS IN A TOUGHER SPOT THAN
WE ARE.
THEY WILL FOLDED LEFT WE HAVE THE FORTITUDE TO DELIVER THAT
THE FORTITUDE TO DELIVER THAT
MESSAGE.
TAYLOR: NO ONE IS HAVING THOSE
FRANK CONVERSATIONS AND
EXPLAINING HOW THINGS WILL BE.
I THINK ABOUT THE ANALOGY YOU
MADE WITH A GAIN OF FUNCTION
RESEARCH, AND IF THEY ARE NOT
STOPPING, THAN THINK ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE, IN THE UNITED
STATES, PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTS
TO OVERHAUL THE COUNTRY, THE
WHOLE AUTOMOTIVE SYSTEM,
MASSIVE COST TO AMERICAN
CONSUMERS, IF CHINA DOESN’T
ADAPT OR CONTRIBUTE WHAT ARE WE
DOING?
JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET, THAT
IS WHY IT SCARES ME, WE DON’T
SEE FOES ADAPTING LIKE WE WANT
TO.
>> A LOT OF THE -- CHINA IS
LAUGHING AT EVERY STEP.
WE MIGHT FORCE AMERICAN ENERGY
COMPANIES TO ABANDON OIL
PROJECTS, WHERE THE LIKES OF
PETRO CHINA ARE ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE WORLD.
THE SAME ESD PROMOTING ASSET
MANAGERS, DON’T SAY A PEOPLE AS
PETRO CHINA PICS THEM UP.
THIS IS AGAIN CHINA IS USING TO
ADVANTAGE THEMSELVES VERSUS THE
UNITED STATES.
WE NEED TO ABANDON THE CLIMATE
CULT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE --
TAYLOR: IF THEY CONTINUE THAT
AND DO THE SAME WITH AI?
THAT’S WHAT I’M GETTING AT.
>> THEY’VE DONE IT WITH WEAPON
ICING SOCIAL MORAYS BACK
AGAINST US.
THEY WEAPON EYES THAT TO SAY A
CHINA VIRUS OR WUHAN VIRUS,
BRINGING IN SECURITIES AGAINST
US.
THEY ARE LAUGHING EVERY STEP OF