WE’LL STAY IN TOUCH.
IT IS A BIG DAY.
>> WHAT EFFECT DO YOU THINK
HAVING NOT PASSED THESE BILLS
HAD ON TUESDAY’S ELECTION
RESULTS?
>> I THINK GETTING THE JOB
DONE, PRODUCING RESULTS FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE IS ALWAYS VERY
POSITIVE.
LET’S SEE WHAT THE DATA IS AT
IT COMES IN.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THE MORE
RESULTS WE CAN PRODUCE IN A WAY
THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IN THEIR
LIVES THE BETTER IT IS.
>> Bill: SPEAKER PELOSI
YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF INACTION ON THE HILL.
THAT’S HER VIEW OF THE MATTER.
JIM MASS ENA FORMER DEPUTY
CHIEF OF STAFF AND CEO OF THE
MASS ENA GROUP WE HAVE
QUESTIONS.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" EDITORIAL
IS INTERESTING AND LONG.
WE PICKED OUT A PARAGRAPH.
TUESDAY’S RESULTS ARE A SIGN
THAT SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF THE
ELECTORATE OF FEELING LEERY OF
A SHARP LEFTWARD PUSH IN THE
PARTY INCLUDING ON PRIORITIES
LIKE BUILD BACK BETTER.
THE CONCERNS THAT MORE CENTRIST
AMERICANS WITH WITH A RUSH TO
SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY AND BUILD
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE
DISMISSED END QUOTE.
WHAT DO THEY DO?
>> WELL, LOOK, WHAT THEY NEED
TO DO IS MAKE A CASE TO THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THEY
ARE DOING.
INSTEAD WE HAVE MONTH AFTER
MONTH OF DEMOCRAT ON DEMOCRAT
CRIME AS WE NEGOTIATE THESE
BILLS FOREVER.
SO THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC
MESSAGE.
WE NEED TO PASS THE BILLS AND
TAKE OUR ARGUMENT TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I AGREE WITH PELOSI.
WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS VOTERS
ARE SICK OF PROCESS.
THIS WAS TRUE IN TRUMP WHEN
THEY COULDN’T REPEAL OBAMACARE
AND TRUE WITH OBAMA.
VOTERS DON’T LIKE PROCESS.
THEY WANT RESULTS AND WANT TO
GET STUFF DONE AND CALL THE
QUESTION ON THESE BILLS AND
MOVE FORWARD.
>> Dana: BILL READ FROM "THE
NEW YORK TIMES" EDITORIAL PAGE.
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, A
SPOKESPERSON HAD A DIFFERENT
TAKE.
>> I KNOW THAT VIRGINIA WAS A
HUGE BUMMER AND HONESTLY IF
ANYTHING, I THINK THE RESULTS
SHOW THE LIMITS OF TRYING TO
RUN A FULLY 100% SUPER
MODERATED CAMPAIGN.
THAT DOES NOT EXCITE, SPEAK TO,
OR ENERGIZE THE PROGRESSIVE
BASE AND FRANKLY WE WEREN’T
REALLY INVITED TO CONTRIBUTE ON
THAT RACE.
>> Dana: IS THE PROBLEM THAT IT
HASN’T GONE TOO FAR LEFT ENOUGH
AND ENERGIZING THAT BASE OF
PROGRESSIVES?
>> THAT’S A RIDICULOUS ARGUMENT.
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST TURNOUT IN
VIRGINIA HISTORY.
BOTH SIDES TURNED OUT IN BIG
NUMBERS.
THE PROBLEM IS WE LOST SWING
VOTERS AND FOR SOME OF THE
REASONS I TALKED ABOUT.
IT IS NOT THAN ENTHUSIASM.
WE HAD HUGE TURNOUT.
THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN’T DO AS
WELL IF SUBURBAN PLACES AS WE
HAVE DONE.
COALITIONS DON’T LAST FOREVER
AND DEMOCRATS CAN’T TAKE FOR
GRANTED THAT WE WILL HAVE
SUBURBAN WOMEN THAT ELECTED JOE
BIDEN AND GAVE THE DEMOCRATS
THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
>> Bill: I’VE ALWAYS WONDERED
ABOUT THIS.
WHEN YOU REFLECT ON OBAMACARE
11 YEARS AGO AND THE MID-TERMS
CAME UP AND YOU LOST 63 SEATS
IN THE HOUSE.
REALLY IT WAS QUITE
EXTRAORDINARY.
BACK ON "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
PIECE IT CONCLUDES TIME TO
FOCUS ON A PATH POLICIES WITH
BROAD SUPPORT OR RISK GETTING
RUN OUT OF OFFICE.
THE MODERATES, ARE THEY WILLING
TO DIE ON THIS HILL OR DO THEY
REMEMBER THE LESSON OF 11 YEARS
AGO?
WHAT DO YOU THINK, JIM?
>> WELL LOOK, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
WHAT’S IN THIS PLAN, THEY ARE
WILDLY POPULAR THINGS.
THEY ARE 70% SUPPORT.
SO WE HAVE TO STOP DEBATING
NUMBERS AND GET TO WHAT IS
ACTUALLY IN THE PLAN TALK ABOUT
THE AMAZING JOBS NUMBERS WE HAD
TODAY.
TENS OF MILLIONS PEOPLE GETTING
VACCINATED.
A GREAT STORY HERE.
ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE
DEBATES ON CAPITOL HILL AND
WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON.
>> Bill: 1.85 TRILLION.
THERE IS A LOT OF JUNK IN THERE.
THERE IS A PROVISIONS THAT GIVE
TAX DEDUCTIONS TO NEWSPAPERS
AND MEDIA COMPANIES ACROSS
AMERICA BASED ON THE NUMBER OF
EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE.
IS THAT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT?
>> I WOULD BE CAREFUL ON THAT
ONE.
THAT IS BEING SUPPORTED BY
RUPPERT MURDOCH AND PUT IT IN
THERE FOR HIM.
LET’S BE CAREFUL ON THAT ONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE
PACKAGE.
>> Bill: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
NO MATTER WHO SUPPORTS IT,
THAT’S SOMETHING WE NEED TO
KNOW.
THE PROCESS HAS JUST BEEN SO
FAST.
CONTINUE.
>> I’M SORRY BUT AT SOME POINT
IT HAS NOT BEEN -- THEY’VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS MONTH AFTER
MONTH.
COME ON, MAN, THIS ISN’T TOO
FAST, IT IS TOO SLOW.
>> Dana: MY LAST QUESTION FOR
YOU.
SO BILL CLINTON HAD JOHN
PODESTA THAT HELPED HIM GET
THINGS THROUGH AND YOU COULD
SAY PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD JOE
BIDEN TO HELP HIM GO TO CAPITOL
HILL AND TO DO THAT.
DO YOU THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOMEBODY DESIGNATED, DO YOU
THINK IT’S KAMALA HARRIS,
SOMEBODY TO HELP DRIVE FOR THEM
AND HELP SELL WHAT YOU ARE
TRYING TO SAY HERE, GET AWAY
FROM THE NUMBERS AND TRY TO
SELL THE POLICY?
>> I THINK THAT’S WHY YOU SAW
THE PRESIDENT GO UP TO THE HILL.
THE PRESIDENT HAS THE BEST
RELATIONSHIPS OF ANYONE.
HE WAS A SENATOR FOR THREE
DECADES.
THIS IS HIS JOB AND HE HAS
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AND WHY HE
HAS COME TO THE HILL AND ON THE
PHONE TODAY MAKING THE CASE TO
HIS MODERATES.
>> Dana: WE’LL SEE IF THEY GET
IT DONE AND SEE WHAT’S IN THE
BILL.
>> Bill: JUST TO BE CLEAR ON
THE SPEED, JIM.
THE RULES COMMITTEE 10:00 LAST
NIGHT AND THEY HAD THE 72-HOUR
WINDOW THAT WE THOUGHT THEY
WOULD UPHOLD AND IF THEY GO
FORWARD AND VOTE FOR IT TODAY
OR VOTE ON IT THEY WOULD BLOW
THROUGH THAT WINDOW.
THAT’S SOMETHING WE WERE TRYING
TO BRING UP.