quarterbacks, we've got to bring in our quarterback. Chris
Simms. Chris help me understand something. Okay,
so Aaron Rodgers was Davante Adams, right? The body Adams is
great. We got it. We know it. No doubt the best wide
receivers in football, right?
In the mat will floor era. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers played seven games without Davante Adams.
Yes. And those seven games 19 touchdowns one interception,
right? Completes over 68 percent of his passes, averages
292 passing yards per game,
he averages 24.1 fantasy points in those seven games,
just for comparison,
last year's number, one quarterback and fantasy, Joshua Allen
average 23, right?
And he's going as quarterback 12. Like
and it's all an over reaction to Davante Adams. Do you think
for sure? Of course, I will. Aaron Rodgers. Yes, thank you.
I mean,
like, yeah, what,
there's no question
losing Adams hurt. Sure.
But Rogers is played like he Lost Jordy Nelson at a point.
He lost Randall Cobb. And I know that it's a proven
commodity we've seen that we've been
here done that. Yeah, I don't I just don't understand it. He's
he's 14 years, the last 14 years, Aaron Rodgers is
finished as a top, nine Quarterback
13 time, right? He's is Money in the Bank as you get. I don't
get it either. He's being drafted as quarterback 12.
Yeah, I'm
I'm with you. I'm with Matthew Berry all the way on this one.
Don't over react first up, we know what Aaron Rodgers is.
He's maybe the greatest physically gifted quarterback
in the history of football, he's extremely smart.
He's efficient as hell right.
I think people are making too big of a deal about
Rogers and Mahomes without Davante Adams or Tyree kill him
opinion. You know, again it's a system. He's a very, they have
a good system that's going to be able to get the ball to
a lot of people
they do go with the Run game
and I think their defense will be improved this year to which
may be gets the ball. His hands a little bit more often and
they're going to find other ways. Now,
is it going to be 45 and for like the MVP season two years
ago or 37 and foreleg got your. I don't know if it's going to
be quite that, but I don't think it's going to be too far
behind that and I'm with you all the way. Definitely would
be a
top 10 or for me. Right. I see world, right? And Chris, it
doesn't need to be. That's the thing he's going as QB. 12 for
him to earn a profit this year in fantasy. He doesn't need to
do those kind of numbers. Like he's be going outside the top
ten. I just
I think people that
all I know is over the course of his career people that have
bet against Aaron. Rodgers you lose. Yes.
You lose. Yeah. So people to put too much of the team stuff
on Aaron Rodgers, he is the team and I'm with you. I think
he says motivated and on his game as ever
to not think that he's not going to go out there and still
be one of the best quarterbacks in football. And then with that
offense and I knows there's some unproven Commodities that
receiver and all that, I still think it'll be good enough to
wear.
Yeah, it's going to it's going to appeal to all the fantasy
owners out there. Yeah. He's He's going to use his running
backs, more. You'll see AJ, Dylan Aaron Jones. Yeah, right.
And the passing game, he's getting Robert onion back. Who
scored a ton of touch. We have two years ago. Exactly. So
and I do think when
people are sleeping on Lazard, I'm with you there and I love
the rookie watson-watt. I love him, he's one of my favorite
receivers in the draft. So I think he can be as bad as
explosive as a receiver. That Rogers has had ever in his
career.
I think Watson has that type of explosive ability. Yeah. You
crunch the tape as well as anyone. So that's big praise
from you. I want to
Move on. So one of the big things in fantasy Chris is
obviously looking for undervalued asset, huh? And
another here's a guy that isn't sexy
that no one's going to be like when you draft him, no one's
gonna be like. Ooh right? Like like he ain't real answer.
Yeah,
but I
I got a crazy list for you. Yeah. Here's the entire list.
I looked this up. Here's the entire list of quarterbacks of
thrown at least 30 touchdown passes each of the last two
years,
Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, passion Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. And Kirk
haha. Yeah, like it, no one likes Kirk Cousins. Nobody does
no one likes I. But the fact of the matter is Kirk Cousins,
last year,
has through, for 4,000 yards, he's thrown for 4,000 yards
each of six of the past seven seasons. Okay? He's been a top
12 fantasy quarterback. Each of the last two years
and last year under Mike Zimmer Vikings were bottom 14 in
the NFL and passing rate. Yeah.
Now they get Kevin O'Connell and West Phillips from the Rams
who just helped Matthew Stafford. Get to a top five
fantasy. Fantasy finish last year in Los Angeles, right. All
of his weapons are
back. He's got Justin Jefferson and Adam thielen. He's got
Dalvin cook back. He's got a healthy herb Smith.
I just don't understand and you know again it he's not sexy
but if you if you're looking for a second quarterback, if
you're in a deeper League your superflex league, I just think
Kirk Cousins who's going quarterback 15 or later in
a lot of leagues
is a value this year. I'm
100%. I mean I would think he's to me is one of the like,
the safest Quarterbacks in the world for from that. And you
just want to talk about consistency, efficiency
a little like we talked about with Aaron Rodgers a second
ago. First off, I don't understand the hate around Kirk
Cousins at times him and Derek Carr. I think I'd like
the most hated on quarterbacks in all of football
and you know, I think it a little bit with Kirk Cousins is
just because of the contract situations. People are mad.
He's made this much money.
You said it right? He's not a superstar. He's not my homes or
Josh Alan, but we're I think like you're on the right track
here. First off, yes, accurate. Extremely good. Ian maker
and a better down the field. Explosive. Big pie thrower than
people give him credit for and now to what you're saying.
I think here's
got Kevin O'Connell, it's the best offense in mind. He's had
around him before. O'Connell knows all about Kirk Cousins
because he was in cousins with making day. So there's there's
a respect here, so he's going to give him some answers and
some things in the pie book that I think are haven't been
available for a Kirk Cousins, the last few years, let alone,
the two receivers you talked about thielen and Jefferson.
KJ Osbourne's, not bad,
you know, the tight end being healthy and back. I think those
are all positives. I'm with you. I'm interested to see what
this new offense. Looks like under O'Connell. He was Kevin
O'Connell was hired with the idea of like
when they were looking for a coach, they're like, who's
gonna work with cousin, right? I mean, they're committing,
what is it 41 million dollars to it? Like, like that was
the idea is like, make this guy work. And so again
top 12 fantasy quarterback and six, the last seven seasons,
each of the last two years he's going as QB 15 on Yahoo. I just
look, he doesn't have the The upside of some of the other
guys, it doesn't have the upside of a trail and right but
in a deeper League of
to quarterback League I just I think he's going to outperform
QB 15 and I think there's a I think people are under
estimating
what this offense will do for cousins who to my mind is one
of if not the best play action pass years in the NFL and when
you've got a guy like Dalvin cook,
just it just opens it up. And, you know, Connell knows that
exactly an extremely smart and going to be in an offense
that's going to be. I think I'll be able to take advantage
more of his smarts that's why people Shanahan McVeigh love
the guy so
I think that's it. People hate on him way too much, because
yeah, maybe he doesn't make the sexy plays and all of that,
the scramble plays. The highlight plays, yes, that's not his
game.
I understand that. But
when you give them a system and a lot of answers,
he's one of those rare guys in the NFL
that can take advantage of all. That's there to be had from
their coach. And I think that's where we're excited about him
fantasy or reality.
It's above 15. I know that. I mean, even reality, he's
In that top 10, ish 12 estranged, and to think that
even in fantasy that you wouldn't pick them in the top
15 with the numbers, he's put up and that you just see
you know, a guy that's smart works hard. Does everything for
the team and then Has Talent around him.
I just think that's a no brainer.
Yeah. The list of guys that I read you know read Brady
Mahomes Herbert like they're all going the top six
quarterback. Yeah. And then you've got cousins at 15 and
I'm not saying he's those guys but I'm just saying he's not as
far away from them as well.
Thanks and I look at the numbers. I'm with you.
Are the problem with fantasy that I think people
react to headlines and Buzz and they don't just look at
the numbers again. Kirk Cousins is boring,
but the numbers are there. Yeah, somebody who isn't boring
is jobber? Oh, everyone loves jobber. All right, it's a great
story. He's easy to root for Joe Cool. The whole thing last
year, the Bangles and burrow, specifically
an amazing Stories
love jobber right, hate, where he's being drafted. Okay, too
high for you, he's going as quarterback five. Listen,
listen is, here's some of the I'm going to list you some of
the quarterbacks that Joe Broz being drafted ahead. Sure.
Kyla Marie yeah, Tom Brady right, Jalen hurd's, Dak
Prescott, Russell Wilson Matthew Stafford, right Aaron
Rodgers, right?
He's being drafted ahead of all those guys,
if you look a little bit closer and I put this out in my
100 facts but almost half of Joe Broz fantasy points from
last year. 47 percent of his fantasy points. Last year
came from three games.
The end of the year that
those two games at the end of the year, one of which was
against a beat-up, Ravens team, the choices, the Chiefs game
that crazy game against keeps right and
earlier in the year against the Ravens
He just owned the rabies
last year. So three games
accounted for half of his fantasies. Yes. Last year,
the six games prior to those two games that you mentioned at
the end of last year, right?
Monster games,
the six games prior to that, he had just six touchdown passes.
Yeah, and so there was just an inconsistency there
for four jobber. Oh, he had four different games last year
with under 13 fantasy points. Like there were four different
games where you just absolutely killed you
last year, he's not running as much as well. Yeah, yeah.
Average like, you know, underrate rushing yards per
game which is
down more than 50 percent from the previous year. Yeah.
And I just think look,
he's a special quarterback. I'm not questioning that. Yeah,
but now defends now he's on defensive coordinators, right? Yeah,
every player that every team that is playing the Bangles as
here as it's like they've circled jobber of. They've
circled Jamar Chase but we take these guys away from them,
right? They bolster the offensive line in
the offseason. I think you'll see more Joe Mixon this year.
I think, a more balanced offense this year. Yeah,
I guess you're right. So
is Joe burrow top 12 fantasy quarterback? Of course, he is.
Probably top ten but you don't think Ty five.
Not ahead Aaron Rodgers, right. Had a Kyler Murray. Right?
Not ahead of dyke. I just
there's some guys that are going to have monster years not
had a Tom Brady or Jalen Hurd. Yeah, I mean you and I have
talked about Jalen hurd's, you know, I think Jalen Hurd says
number one quarterback and fantasy upside. Yeah, I got
you. Yeah, yeah. So I'm just all right so this is why
I don't know where I'm going to disagree with you sir one. This
is one where
I look at it more. As the end of the year of the little bit of a
jump off, spot know
that. Okay, is a guy that would dealt with a pretty
Add knee injury early in the year. I don't think he was
totally himself. You kind of mentioned already
that was the worst offensive line I've ever seen. Get to
the Super Bowl, right? So there's that plus the young aspect of
hey Jamar Chase gelling with some of these guys getting them
all on the same page that way.
And then you know I just think I think with him
the talent they have around him.
I I'm going to say that
one I think in reality he's better
than a lot of the guys, you mentioned fair. And then even
in fantasy, this is one I'm going to disagree, I think
that's just going to be a little bit of a confidence
Builder,
and I think we just between
the guy, I got to be around them a little bit man. He's
just got everything you want and I just think the physical
ability is going to continue to improve and show more
and I think the offense is going to expand as well. It
does scare me a little bit of the fact that get they could be
a little bit more balance, but I still think it's going to be
they know who who the man is there, and they're going to
frame everything around Chase and burrow
and Higgins and that. So that's one
We're maybe I'll disagree with you a little bit and I'm not as
mad. If, if I had a fantasy team and
he might have been my top five quarterbacks. But listen,
Bros fantastic, you don't none of us are disagreeing though.
I know that I know that she'll kick. Yes is yes, he's
a franchise quarterback
for me. The problem is to draft a quarterback in the top five
that doesn't run. Yeah, that isn't a guy like Lamar Jackson.
Sure hilum. I know it's such a big bass back to this jacob
hurts. What you
know Josh Josh, huh? For somebody that doesn't run which
he doesn't
Yeah, he needs to throw touchdown passes at a Tom Brady like Ray
to be worth a top five pick. Yeah, just don't know. You're
not sure if they do that. Yeah, just don't know that he's gonna
get there, I get that. I would think the Runnings going to get
better. Okay, just because of the, the knee being right, he's
healthier there. So I would think that.
And then here's the other thing
that like, you know, the talent, the offense? Yes, we
like that, right? But also with the healthy,
the one thing I love about him.
Yeah.
He's one of the best scramblers in football. I always call him.
The the slippery son of a
b**** is always gets out of everything and moves around and
does that get a little Romo to? Hey, does that's where I think
like you know maybe he can
make a lot of big plays touchdown passes and get two
numbers of of the Bradys of the world to wear. Maybe it
justifies, you know, a top five pick and what can we see?
Listen the argument there, right? Isn't he? Because of
the connection that he has with your March a, right that right?
When those when those broken those playground plays happen,
right? We have when you're extending plays and you're just
trying to like make something happen.
Having guys like Jamar Chase, where he's got this connection
with and T. Higgins. Yes. And even Tyler boy. They cried can
can can go up and get it like he's got his good at wide
receiver. Core is there is no question about it. It might
not be the best. You're right, you're right. Yeah. So
look, I will say this, yeah.
Yahoo agrees with you. Like, the fantasy players on Yahoo.
Okay, they're drafting was a top-five guy. You've got him
there. All right. I just think he's being overhyped because of
all the because he's fun to root Phi here. Yeah, you're
exactly right. Yeah. So for me,
I'm concerned about the rushing. I
First and your concern and your having your, the fantasy
expert. Yeah, it's okay. It's alright, I mean we're going to
be doing a lot of this stuff together, I mean, we always
agree on everything, nobody's gonna like watching us. That's
not going to be any fun.
So I'm gonna push back on you every now and then there we go
we'll check back in here and see who is right? Right on Joe
burrow.