AND MITCH McCONNELL SAYS CONGRESS WILL FUND THE 9/11 FUND
AND HE DOESN’T KNOW WHY JOHN
STEWART IS ALL BENT OUT OF
SHAPE.
SHAPE. WE’LL TELL YOU WHY.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS KICKING
OFF HIS CAMPAIGN TODAY.
TRUMP BASHED RESULTS LAST NIGHT
IN ASH TWEET WRITING FOX NEWS
POLLS ARE ALWAYSTI BAD FOR ME.
THEY WERE AGAINST CROOKED
HILLARY ALSO.
HILLARY ALSO. SOMETHING WEIRD GOING ON AT FOX.
OUR A POLLS SHOW US LEADING IN A
17 SWING STATES.
WOW.
WOW. >> WE HAVE TO STOP RIGHT THERE
VERY QUICKLY.
VERY QUICKLY. SAM STEIN FIRED HIS POLLSTER
BECAUSE HIS INTERNAL POLLS WERE
WORSE THAN FOX NEWS’S POLLS.
>> THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY FAKE
POLLS SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO
FIRENE THE POLLSTER IF THEY’RE
FAKE, RIGHT?
FAKE, RIGHT? I’M APRILMAZED BY THIS TWEET.
I DIDN’T KNOW THERE WERE 17
SWING STATE AND THAT TRUMP IS
LEADING ALL OF THEM.
>> GETTING POUNDED BY DOBLUBLE
DINL
DINL DIGITS IN WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN,
LOSING IN NORTH CAROLINA, LOSING
BY 17 POINTS IN VIRGINIA.
YOU GO TO ALL THE SWING STATES.
DOWNIN IN GEORGIA BY 6 POINTS,
ONLY AHEAD BY 2 IN TEXAS.
>> SOME WITH WOULD ARGUE THAT
WAS WHY HE WASTH SELLING OUT
AMERICA TO GET SOME FOREIGN
COUNTRYET TO HELP CHEAP.
THE POLLS ARE SO BAD, THERE’S NO
OTHER WAY TO WIN.
>> FORGET THE POLLSTERS.
TO BE IN THAT POSITION AT THIS
POINT IN HIS PRESIDENCY WHEN THE
ECONOMY IS DOING VERY WELL IS
NOT A GREAT OR ENVIABLE
ELECTORAL POSITION AND I THINK
HETO KNOWS IT.
>> IT’S BECAUSE OF HIS CAMPAIGN
MANAGER.
MANAGER. HE IS HIS OWN CAMPAIGN MANAGER.
>> BUT HE CAN’T FIRE HIMSELF.
>> GIVEN THE STATE OF THE
ECONOMY, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU
TALKING ABOUT AS A CANDIDATE?
>> ECONOMY, ECONOMY, ECONOMY.
DONALD TRUMP, IT’S HARD TO
REMEMBER A TIME WHEN HE WASN’T
IN POLITICS BUT WHAT WORKED FOR
DONALD TRUMP SO WELL FROM
AUGUST -- ACTUALLY, FROM JUNE OF
2015 THROUGH THE PRIMARY AND
THEN EVEN INTO THE GENERAL
ELECTION, HE SNUCK IN DOING THE
SAME INTHING.
SAME INTHING. NARROW CASTING, PLAYING TO THE
BASE, SAYING BASICALLY TO HELL
WITH COLLEGE-EDUCATED PEOPLE, TO
HELL WITH PEOPLE IN THE SUBURBS,
TO HELL WITH YOUNG ARE WHITEER W
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THAT’S BROUGHT US TO WHERE WETE
ARE.
ARE. I’M ASKING THIS QUESTION FOR
PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO HAVE A GREAT
READ OF WHAT’S GOING ON INSIDE
THE WHITE HOUSE.
YOUSI KNOW TRUMP AS WELL AS
ANYBODY THAT REPORTS ON HIM.
WHEN TRUMP SAYS HE’S AHEAD IN 17
STATES, DOES DONALD THINK HE’S
AHEAD IN 17 STATES OR DOES HE
UNDERSTAND THAT ACTUALLY HE’S
REALLY FACING AN UPHILL BATTLE
RIGHT NOW?
RIGHT NOW? >> TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YOU
HAVEO TO THINK BACK TO THAT
PERIOD YOU JUST DESCRIBED,
2015-2016 WHEN REPORTERS WOULD
GO UP TO THE TRUMP TOWER.
HE WOULD HAVE ALL THESE PICTURE
FRAMES FROM "THE APPRENTICE" ON
THE WALL.
THE WALL. HE WOULD SAY MY RATINGS ARE
DOING REALLY WELL.
THISE IS BACK IN 2015.
WE’D SAY WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY
YOURDO RATING?
YOURDO RATING? HE MEANT HIS POLLING.
POLLING TO HIM IS CONNECTED TO
AN ALMOST PERSONAL WAY TO HIS
OWN POPULARITY AND STATUS.
HE’S SENSITIVE TO POLLING
BECAUSE HEVE SEES IT AS POLITICA
RATINGS.
RATINGS. THAT’S WHYPO PEOPLE IN HIS CIRCL
ARE RELUCTANT TO GIVE HIM BAD
POLLING INFORMATION.
POLLING INFORMATION. HE DOESN’T JUST TAKE IT AS DATA,
HE TAKES IT AS A REFLECTION OF
HIS OWN POPULARITY, BUT HE DOES
WANT TO SEE THE DATA.
HE DOES SEE THERE ARE SOME WEAK
SPOTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SOME
OF THESE SWING STATES.
WHEN YOUSE TALK ABOUT WHO HE’S
PLAYING TO, JOE, HE REALLY
BELIEVES HE HAS TO STOKE HIS
BASE TO HAVE ANY CHANCE IN 2020.
THAT’S WHY THEY KEEP COMING BACK
TO IMMIGRATION AND BACK TO
TRADE.
TRADE. >> MIKA, I’M SO GLAD THAT BOB
BROUGHT UP "THE APPRENTICE"
BECAUSE IT HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY
RUN.
RUN. >> HE USED TO SEND US RATINGS
AND CIRCLE STUFF AND WRITE
LITTLE NOTESTU TO US.
>> SO HAD AN INCREDIBLE RUN.
EVERYBODY IN HIS AGENCY TOLD HIM
NOT TO DO IT.
HE DID IT ANYWAY.
AND HE WAS RIGHT.
AND WHATHE AN INCREDIBLE RUN.
BUT ON THE BACK SIDE OF "THE
APPRENTICE"’S SUCCESS, HE WILL
STILL FAXLL US RATINGS, NUMBER O
AGAIN!
AGAIN! DONALD.
DONALD. YOU LOOK AT THE RATINGS AND IT
WOULD BE LIKE 17.
I’D HAND IT TO MIKA.
DO YOU GET THIS?
I DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS.
AND IT’S SO FUNNY.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT YEAR IT WAS.
MAYBE IT WAS IN 2011 OR 2012,
BUT IT WAS THE END OF A
REMARKABLE RUN.
REMARKABLE RUN. BUT WE COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW
HE WAS SAYING HE WAS NUMBER ONE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
WILL TELL YOU THIS STORY, HE
WOULD FAX IT AROUND, "STILL
STILL NUMBER ONE."
>> DURING THE HEIGHT OF HIS
BIRTHER STORY STUFF, HE WENT ON
"THE VIEW" OR SOMETHING AND I
PUT OUT SOME RANDOM TWEET IS
THIS ALL LIKE THEATER OR DOES HE
ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF?
ABOUT AVE WEEK LATER I GOT A PIE
OF MAIL FROM HIM SCRIBBLED OVER
IT SAID "WE’LL NEVER KNOW BUT
IT’S GREAT RATINGS."
I FOOLISHLY DID NOT HANG ON TO
THAT.
THAT. >>T TO HE ALSO COMPLAINED ON HIS
INTERVIEW WITH ABC AND HIS MIND
WAS ON CROWD SIZE.
THE SOUTH FLORIDA SUN SENTINEL
NOTES THE LINE WAS ABOUT 50
PEOPLE LONG AND A HAD GROWN TO 2
PEOPLE BY 9:30 LAST NIGHT.
AT THE SAME TIME THE PRESIDENT
WAS TWEETING THAT THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE ARE ALREADY LINED UP IN
ORLANDO SOME TWO DAYS BEFORE THE
RALLY.
RALLY. THIS AS SUNDAY NIGHT’S ABC NEWS
SPECIAL THAT THE PRESIDENT
PERSONALLY T PROMOTED ON SOCIAL
MEDIA TURNED OUT TO BE A RATINGS
BUST.
BUST. THE SHOW WAS THIRD IN ITS SUNDAY
NIGHTTIME SLOT WITH 3.91 MILLION
VIEWERS, A SHARP DROP FROM THE
WEEK BEFORE WHEN "CELEBRITY
FAMILY FEUD" PULLED IN 6.1
MILLION VIEWERS.
MILLION VIEWERS. SO HE DIDN’T GET THE RATINGS.
>> WELL, IT’S THE FEUD, MAN.
>> I THINK THE QUESTION, GENE,
GOING INTO 2020 IS GOING TO BE
WHETHER THE EXCITEMENT’S STILL
THERE FOR TRUMP, HOW MUCH CAN
YOU GIN IT UP.
AT SOME POINT EVEN SHOWS THAT
HAVE GREAT RUNS LIKE "THE
APPRENTICE," AT SOMEE POINT THE
JUST GROW OLD AND PEOPLE TURN
AWAY AND GO TO ANOTHER STORY.
I WONDER IF YOU LOOK AT
EVERYTHING WE’VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT THIS MORNING WHETHER
THAT’S STARTING TO HAPPEN HERE.
IG WILL SAY THIS, TRUMP PEOPLE
WHO STILL WHEN I ASK ARE YOU
STILL SUPPORTING HIM, THEY
ALMOST TO A PERSON GO LOVE HIM,
WE VOTED FOR HIM, WE’REIL GOING
VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN BUT THEN
THEY’LL GO OH, GOD, IBUT HIS
TWEETS MAKE ME SO TIRED.
HE HAS EXHAUSTED THEM.
>> HE REALLY HAS.
I THINKE WE, IF ANYTHING,
UNDERESTIMATE HOW DESPERATE HE’S
GETTING ALREADY AT THE SIGNS
THAT THERE’S JUST TRUMP
EXHAUSTION OUT TRTHERE, THAT THE
BASE IS GOING TO TAKE A WHOLE
LOT MORE STOKING, EVEN MORE
STOKING THANEN HE DID LAST TIME,
LOT MORE STOKING TO GET HIM OUT
AND IN COMPARABLE NUMBERS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- I SAW SOME
FIGURES A FEW WEEKS AGO ON
RESPONSES TO HIS TWEETS.
AND THAT’S WAY DOWN.
THERE’S -- PEOPLE BECOME
DESENSITIZED OVER TIME AND I
THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE BECOME
DESENSITIZED, OTHERS HAVE JUST
WANDERED AWAY, OTHERS HAVE BEEN
APPALLED BY VARIOUS THINGS HE’S
DONE.VA
DONE.VA ANDE’ SO I THINK IF, YOU KNOW, H
LOOKS REALLY K FRANTIC RIGHT NOW
BUT I THINK WE HAVEN’T SEEN
ANYTHING YET.
ANYTHING YET. I THINK IT’S GOING TO GET MUCH,
MUCH, MUCH WORSE BEFORE IT GETS
ANY BETTER.
ANY BETTER. >> THERE ARE DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS
FOR WHY THE FRANTIC BEHAVIOR AND
SUCH BOLD FACED LYING, TOO.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, JUST
COMPLETELYOU REFUTING THE REALIT
OF THE POLLS.
IHE GUESS SOME COULD ARGUE THERE
SOME SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS
WAITING FOR HIM FROM THE
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
AND FROM THE LAW, IF AND WHEN HE
LEAVES OFFICE AFTER HIS FIRST
TERM.
TERM. THAT COULD LEAD TO FRANTIC
BEHAVIOR.
BEHAVIOR. IT COULD.
IT COULD. >>HA A LOT OF HIS BASE SUPPORTER
STILL BELIEVE HIM.
>> BUT THE REALITY IS --
>> IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE
REALITY IS TO A LOT OF HIS BASE
SUPPORTERS.
SUPPORTERS. LET’S JUST ADMIT HIS LYING AND
TWEETS IS CREATING AN
ALTERNATIVE REALITY AS KELLYANNE
CONWAY CALLED IT AT THE VERY
BEGINNING.
BEGINNING. THE CREATION OF THE ALTERNATIVE
REALITY HAS AT LEAST WORKED FOR
30, 35% OF AMERICANS AND THE
OTHER 5% TO 10% THAT SUPPORT HIM
DON’T CARE THAT HE’S LYING.
THEY LIKE THE ECONOMY AS IT IS.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THE QUESTION IS WHAT’S THE MAGIC
NUMBER IN HIS APPROVAL RATINGS
MIXED WITH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
SYSTEM THAT MEANS HE CAN WIN OR
HE CAN’T.
HE CAN’T. PEOPLE HAVE PUT IT AT 44%.
HE CANNOT WIN BELOW 44, 45%,
EVEN WHEN YOU PUT IN THE
STRANGENESSSTRANGE
STRANGENESSSTRANGE NESS OF THE SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW THE RATING IS FIGURED
FROM THE GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS
INTERVIEW FROM SUNDAY NIGHT HAS
GOT TO KILL HIM, HE HATES THE
IDEA HE’S NOT DOING WELL.
AND ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT
I.C.E. AND DEPORTATIONS AND
FAMILIES, THEY’RE NOT A
REACTION, THE POLL NUMBERS FROM
FOX, THE N RATINGS ARE LOOKING
BAD.
BAD. THAT SEEMS TO GO BACK TO THE
ISSUE THAT GETS TO THE 35% OF
THE PEOPLE THAT STILL SUPPORT
HIM AND HIS POLICIES AND THAT’S
IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION. THE I.C.E. AGENTS ARE TELLING US
THEY’RE NOT READY.
THEY DON’T WANT THIS LEAKED OUT.
IT TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING AND
WE’RE ABOUT TO START THIS NEXT
WEEK.
WEEK. WHENEVER YOU SEE A TWEET LIKE
THAT, IS IT BECAUSE THE
PRESIDENT IS, REACTING TO BAD
NEWSG INTERNALLY AND HE DOESN’T
LIKE LLIT?
LIKE LLIT? >>SN YOU KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE HIS
BIGGEST ASSET?
BIGGEST ASSET? HIS DOMINANCE OF THE MEDIA.
THERE ARE SOME VERY, VERY GOOD
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES OUT THERE
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
REALLY GET TO THEM
BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS TRUMP
CENTRIC.
CENTRIC. >> HE HAS THE PLATFORM, THE
BULLY PULPIT.
BULLY PULPIT. >> ALL DAY EVERY DAY, HIS
DOMINANCE.
DOMINANCE. >> THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS I
NOTICED IN THE BOOK,NG WRITING
THIS BOOK --
>> "THIS END BADLY."
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW AVAILABLE.
NOW AVAILABLE. IS HOW MANY TIMES WE ALL
KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY FELL
RIGHT INTO THE TRAP.
MARCO RUBIO ENDORSES NIKKI
HALEY -- OR NIKKI HALEY ENDORSES
MARCO RUBIO.
MARCO RUBIO. DONALD TRUMP ATTACKS THE POPE.
WHO TALKED ABOUT NIKKI HALEY
ENDORSING MARCO RUBIO AFTER
THAT?
THAT? THIS HAPPENED EVERY DAY.
>> DO YOU THINK BECAUSE IT
WORKED FOR HIM IN THE PAST IT
WILL WORK IN THE FUTURE?
>>LL NO, I DON’T --
>> IT’S DAMAGING THE COUNTRY.
>> I THINK THEY’RE GOING TO BE
THERE NO MATTER WHAT.
HE OPERATES ON THE IDEA THAT ANY
MEDIA ATTENTION IS GOOD FOR HIM.
HE’LL SAY OUTLANDISH THINGS,
MAKE TWEETS LIKE HE DID LAST
NIGHT, WHICH COULD HAVE REAL BAD
WORLD IMPLICATIONS.
WORLD IMPLICATIONS. I’M NOT SURE THAT’S NECESSARILY
A WINNING FORMULA.
>> I DON’T THINK IF IS THIS
YEAR.
YEAR. SO MANY OF US WERE WRONG ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP IN 2016 BUT HE DID
WHAT HE HAD H TO DO AS A
CHALLENGERAS AND THEN WITH THE
HELP OFHE JIM COMEY BIT HILLARY
CLINTON.
CLINTON. BOB COSTA, IT’S SO INTERESTING
THAT DONALD TRUMP -- THE
SHOCKING THING ABOUT TRUMP’S CAM
PAN IS IN THOSE EARLY STATES,
IOWA,ES NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH
CAROLINA, MY GOSH, INTO SUPER
TUESDAY, HE HAD DONALD TRUMP,
COREY LEWANDOWSKI AND HOPE
HICKS.
HICKS. THAT’S IT.
THAT’S IT. I’VE NEVER SEEN A CAMPAIGN LIKE
IT, NOBODYIES’S SEEN A CAMPAIGN
LIKE IT AND NOBODY EVER WILL
AGAIN.
AGAIN. NOW HE’S GOT ALL THE
INFRASTRUCTURE HE WANTS AND
NEEDS.
NEEDS. IUC WONDER HOW HE PERFORMS AS A
FRONT-RUNNER.
FRONT-RUNNER. EVEN I’M SURPRISED HE JUST CAN’T
ADJUST TO THE FACT THAT HE NEEDS
TO GET THE UNDECIDEDS.
HE NEEDS TO GET 5, 6, 7% TO WENT
THIS
THIS -- WIN THIS YEAR.
ANY SENSE THERE’S THAT
UNDERSTANDING WITHIN THE WHITE
HOUSE?
HOUSE? >> WE’RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT
ABOUT BRAD PASCAL AND THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND THE NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW DIFFERENT
IT WAS WITH HOPE HICKS AND COREY
LEWANDOWSKI AND THE PLANE.
WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
IN CONVERSATION WITH PRUM EVERY
DAY
DAY -- PRESIDENT TRUMP EVERY EVDAY,
THEY ARE BRACING WHAT THEY SAY.
THEY SAY IT’S GOING TO BE SO
RELENTLESS AND FOCUSED OF
PAINTING THE DEMOCRATS WITH THE
BROAD BRUSH OF SOCIALISM,
STOKING FEAR ON IMMIGRATION,
COMING BACK AND ATTACKING THE
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AS PEOPLE
WHO WILL CHANGE THE COUNTRY IN
DESTRUCTIVEUN WAYS.
DESTRUCTIVEUN WAYS. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS UBIQUITY US.
ALL THESE CANDIDATE WHO IS PLAN
TO RUN A SEMI-TRADITIONAL
CAMPAIGN AGAINSTAD PRESIDENT TRU
HAVECA TO KNOW THAT BEHIND THE
SCENES, HE CANNOT WAIT TO GO
AFTER ALL OF THEM ALL DAY AND TO
GO TO THE EXTREME IN HOW HE
FRAMES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
AS YOU SAY, THIS COULD END
BADLY.
BADLY. POLITICALLY THIS WILLDL BE 2016
TORQUED UP EVEN MORE.
THAT’S HOW THE PRESIDENT IS
TALKING ABOUT IT.
>> IF HE WANTS TO DISTRACT, HE
HAS THE PLATFORM TO DO THINGS IN
A VERY BIG WAY.
STILL W AHEAD ON "MORNING JOE,"
GO LIVE TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO