MIKE.
>> Mike: TRACE GALLAGHER,
THANKS VERY MUCH.
PRESIDENT TRUMP UNVEILS THE NEW
SLOGAN APPARENTLY TROLLING MOST
FOUR PROGRESSIVE CONGRESSWOMAN
KNOWN AS "THE SQUAD" ."
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>> Mike: JOINING ME NOW,
LESLIE MARSHALL AND KARL ROVE.
GREAT TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU.
>> HI, MIKE, GOOD TO BE HERE.
>> Mike: TAKE A LOOK AT
PRESIDENT TRUMP ON MOST FOUR
FRESHMAN CONGRESSWOMAN AND I
WILL ASK YOU TO RESPOND.
>> YESTERDAY THEY WENT ON THE
STAGE, I SAID LET ME WATCH THIS
AND THE ANGER.
THE CHOICE FOR EVERY AMERICAN
HAS NEVER BEEN MORE CLEAR.
THAT'S TRUE.
THE DEMOCRAT AGENDA IS
ANTIWORKER, ANTI-JOBS,
ANTI-CITIZEN, ANTIFAMILY, AND
ANTI-COMMON SENSE.
>> Mike: DOES THAT WORK IS A
2020 CAMPAIGN PITCH, ANGRY
DEMOCRATS AGAINST HIM, CARL?
>> IT DOES AS LONG AS YOU KEEP
PUTTING OUT -- "THE SQUAD" IN
FRONT OF THE CAMERA.
I WATCH THE NEWS CONFERENCE.
I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK I'M A
CONGRESSWOMAN PRESLEY STARTED
OFF BY SAYING HE IS XENOPHOBIC,
RACIST AND A BIGOT, BUT LET'S
NOT TAKE THE BAIT AND ENGAGE IN
THE SAME KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT
HE ENGAGES IN AND THEN SPEND
MUCH OF THE REST OF HER TIME
TALKING ABOUT HOW
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS DELIBERATELY
SUBJECTING IMMIGRANT CHILDREN
ALONG THE BORDER TO TRAUMA,
CHILDHOOD TRAUMA.
THESE DELIBERATELY TRAUMATIZING
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THESE CONDITIONS AT THESE
DETENTION FACILITIES ALONG THE
BORDER.
IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF
DISCONNECT.
LET ME CALL HIM A BUNCH OF NAMES
AND THEN LET'S SAY WE ARE NOT
GOING TO CALL HIM NAMES AND
LIMITS ON THE REST OF MY TIME
TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WHERE
I'M ASCRIBING TO HIM A
DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO
TRAUMATIZED CHILDREN.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY ARE.
TOMORROW I'VE GOT MY COLUMN IN
"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL."
I WAS TAKEN ABACK WHEN LAST WEEK
AOC COMES OUT AND SAYS LET'S GET
RID OF THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY.
SHE WAS ASKED YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF
GETTING RID OF ICE AND SHE SAID
I WANT TO GET RID OF OLD
APARTMENT, AND HER INTERVIEWER,
DAVID REMICK OF THE NEW YORKER
SAID DON'T YOU MEAN REFORMAT AND
SHE SAID NO, I'M IN FAVOR OF
GETTING RID OF IT ALL.
JAW-DROPPING TO ME, REALLY GET
RID OF IT.
PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO
AND GET ON AIRPLANES AND CARRY
BOX CUTTERS THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO
BE ABLE TO COME ACROSS THE
BORDER WITHOUT ANY BORDER
SECURITY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY
BIO WEAPONS DEFENSE MEASURES PUT
IN PLACE.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE PREPAREDNESS
FOR EMERGENCIES AND RESPONSE?
SO MANY THINGS THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY DOES THAT
KEEPS US SAFE AND THERE IS AOC,
THE STAR OF "THE SQUAD" OUT
THERE SAYING SOMETHING THAT I
THINK MOST AMERICANS WOULD SORT
OF SHAKE THEIR HEAD OUT AND SAY
WHO ARE YOU?
>> Mike: CHECK OUT THAT.
LESLIE, I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP
FROM MSNBC EARLIER TODAY AND GET
YOUR REACTION.
>> IF THERE WAS ONE STRATEGY IN
2016 THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
HIS CAMPAIGN WANTED TO DO AND WE
WILL PROBABLY SEE AGAIN IS JUST
MUDDY IT UP.
HOW IT IS UGLIER RAISED AS
POSSIBLE.
SOCIALISM, "THE SQUAD,"
EVERYONE, THROW EVERYTHING
AGAINST THE WALL AND HOPE THAT
THE PRESS IS KIND OF DEMOCRATIC
TURNOUT.
>> DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS
TRYING TO MUDDY IT UP?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN VERY
EFFECTIVE FOR HIM.
IT WOULD SEEM AFTER THIS YOU SEE
HIS APPROVAL RATING GO UP, YOU
SEE MORE REPUBLICANS UNITED
AGAINST HIM -- I MEAN WITH HIM
AND NOT AGAINST HIM.
AFTER HE DID SEND THEM BACK.
AND IN 2016, IF YOU ARE A
MEMBER, HE PERSONALLY ATTACKED
EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT OF HIS IN
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BECAME THE
NOMINEE, BECAME PRESIDENT, AND
DEMOCRATS WERE SAYING WHEN THEY
GO LOW, WE GO HIGH, AND WE LOST.
I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD GO LOW,
NECESSARILY, BUT I THINK THERE
ARE THOSE THAT WANT TO FIGHT
FIRE WITH FIRE.
TO SOME OF KARL'S POINTS WE HAVE
TO MEMBER THAT THIS SQUAD OF
FOUR FRESHMAN FEMALE
CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS WHO WERE
ELECTED BY THEIR DISTRICT AND
THEIR CONSTITUENTS, ARE NOT THE
MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS OR VOTERS,
NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE PARTY,
DON'T SPEAK FOR THE PARTY, AS
YOU OFTEN HEAR SPEAKER PELOSI
TRY TO PUT OUT THE GUN WHEN YOU
LOOK AT A RECENT AXIOS POLL,
THEY MAY HAVE HIGH NUMBERS WITH
RECOGNITION, NAME RECOGNITION,
BUT THEY HAVE VERY RURAL LOW
RATING AMONG THOSE SWING STATE
VOTERS AND DEMOCRATS ARE VERY
COGNIZANT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY
THE SPEAKER.
>> Mike: THE OTHER ISSUE IS
THAT THEY'VE BEEN SLUGGING IT
OUT, THE SQUAD, WITH SPEAKER
NANCY PELOSI.
KARL, TO THE PRESIDENT MAKE A
STRATEGIC MISTAKE BY GETTING IN
THE MIDDLE OF THEIR FIGHT?
>> WELL, THERE'S A QUESTION OF
TIMING, BUT LOOK, I AGREE
WITH -- I AGREE THAT THEY ARE
NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT
MOST DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT, BUT
THEY'RE DOMINATING THE COVERAGE
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE POINTS OF
MY COLUMN.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS IN
THE HOUSE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO
SINCE THEY TOOK THE MAJORITY.
THEY HAVE BEEN, FIRST OF ALL,
OVERSHADOWED BY THE CALLS FOR
IMPEACHMENT, AND NOW THEY ARE
BEING OVERSHADOWED BY
"THE SQUAD" AND "THE SQUAD" IS
HAVING AN EFFECT.
WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT A YEAR
AGO EVERY DEMOCRAT ON THAT STAGE
IN THE DEBATE WOULD HAVE RAISED
THEIR HAND AND SAY YEAH, I'M IN
FAVOR OF FREE HEALTH CARE FOR
ILLEGAL ALIENS.
WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR
WOULD SAY I'M IN FAVOR FOR
MEDICARE OF ALL AND THAT MEANS
TAKING CARE OF -- TAKING AWAY
PRIVATE HEALTH CARE, HEALTH
INSURANCE.