have you ever thought to sit down with chat GPT and just go right as a Cornetto movie AI could
be amazing for us I mean you know classically in a human way we're terrified immediately in terms
of medicine space travel sort of Environmental Protection it could zoom us forward into the
future when AI has its own feelings then maybe it might be able to make up right now all it can
do is copy but in our you know Arts are very human thing so stay the hell out of our sound pit nicely
said foreign you're listening to the Dave Berry breakfast show on absolute radio joining me this
morning a person who we all fell in love with on Channel 4 spaced in his illustrious career he has
fought off zombies brought Laura and order to a Country Village hung out with aliens and people
have requested that he beams them up however one of our favorite characters is that of the wildly
lovable and heroic Benji Dunn and he's back in Mission Impossible dead reckoning part one
it's Simon Pegg hello mate I was just loving watching you do that then yeah was it good
um Simon it's great to see now I've seen the movie yeah um and I it's always difficult in
this position because I don't want to plot spoil anything so anybody listening to this who's
looking forward to going and watching it yeah however I want to ask you about the movie yeah
of course so let's start with um kind of a really interesting thing about this film yeah is that
the main Baddie in this movie is not a person at all yeah so tell us a bit about that firstly have
you recovered yet yeah I'm gonna talk to you about that in a second wow I know right yeah the villain
is is the antagonist we say is the is something called The Entity and and it's represented by Isa
Morales character Gabriel who's a kind of person working for it but the entity is essentially an
AI and when McCue told me that Chris Macquarie the director he sort of floated the idea back in 2019
I thought yeah that's perfect mission impossible it's kind of techy it's a little bit sci-fi it's
totally in keeping with the mission of possible Vibe and yet here we are in 23 and like everyone's
talking about it already you know this notion of something kind of becoming you know replacing
us or becoming aggressive towards us um it feels very prescient at the moment well it's a Zeitgeist
part of the movie it's incredible we've done it you know I knew as you say you kind of having
these conversations back in 2019 when I first realized that AI was gonna be no good for for
humankind yeah was when I asked it to do Marvin Gaye and this is what it came up with together
you
I thought aye's no good AI is not not good but not bad I mean it's kind of weird you
don't mind the Freddy you could do you surely could do a competition
of like AI guess the artist you know if you say yeah who's this
Five Points well done if we talk about AI in the Arts and as you say as we've discussed it you
know everybody's talking about it right now yeah does it have a place for you anywhere obviously
you know yourself and Edgar writing scripts and so on and so forth have you ever thought
to sit down with chat GPT and just go right as a Cornetto movie well I think the thing is art
that you know the very definition of art is the kind of expression of of human emotion
into the sort of abstract it's a human thing art I mean you can have you know chimpanzee
art if a chimpanzee paints a picture that's how it's feeling and so that's that's also art you
know when AI has its own feelings then maybe it might be able to make up right now all it can do
is copy all it can do is approximate you can't do anything artistic I mean you could possibly
use it as a tool as a brush perhaps an artist could use AI to make something but the AI can't
make something itself AI could be amazing for us I mean you know classically in a human way
will terrified immediately in terms of medicine space travel um sort of Environmental Protection
it could zoom us forward into the future but in our you know Arts are very human thing so
stay the hell out of our sound pit nicely said stay the hell of our sound pit AI he's a great
pull-out quote from this interview um now listen um you touched on there have I recovered yet
from watching the movie because you know one of the things that mission impossible always
brings us is those kind of incredible huge set pieces and and this movie is no different
um but one of the things this movie also brings us is Tom Cruise doing quite a bit of sleight of
hand close-up magic yeah so you know people always say wow does Tom Cruise do his own stunts I want
to know Simon does Tom Cruise do his own magic tricks yes he does he's kind of like nothing you
can't do this is it but he he what he'll do is if he has to do something whether it's a stunt or a
particular skill set he will train to do it and he'll spend you know he'll put in a hundred hours
doing something so I'm pretty sure he trained with a close hand uh magician to do a few of those
little bits and Bobs you know you kind of hint hint in the movie that Ethan's passed before he
became part of the IMF he was uh you know a little bit like Haley's character a bit maybe a little
criminal you know this whole idea that we are all offered the choice to join the IMF or go to prison
or live a life where we might not survive long and so you know Tom thought okay this is Ethan's
history so I'm going to go back and I'm going to learn to do it properly and he did well it's it's
did he I mean you know you guys have been touring around the world together there's been some lovely
images of you like asleep on one another on a private jet and stuff just really random stuff has
even like next to each other have I reimagined it slightly I think I used AI to do a language it's a
deep fake just for Dave but as he did was he show you some magic tricks you know when you're touring
around you go do the thing where you make this disappear or pull a coin out to be honest we're
not children David is what you get yeah yeah no I haven't I mean he did that in the movie and I
remember him practicing in that but um yeah when we're sort of touring around it's such a whirlwind
you know we literally go we're going from here to Abu Dhabi to Seoul to Sydney to New York to Tokyo
on this tour and um it's just a whirlwind you know I mean there's barely time to stop and do anything
let alone a a little uh coin trick okay fair play um the bigger thing that's happening when
we first see the the kind of close hair magic though is is a fantastic scene involving your
character Benji we are trying to basically stop a bomb from going off it's one of those lovely kind
of cut the red wall of the green wire but Mission Impossible Next Level when you're working with Tom
Cruise because he's kind of spoken about you know the importance of that cinematic experience and
we've you know touched on already those big set pieces is that kind of everyone knows what you're
set out to do from the very beginning from day one on set or in pre-production it's like we're making
something a cinematic experience that people are going to enjoy yeah Tom is like utterly devoted
to cinema as an art and I mean the act of going to the cinema spending time in a room with a lot
of people you don't know sharing that experience you know that's one of the things people kind of
people think about the big screen and the sound but it's also about sharing it with a whole load
of people and all feeling those emotions at the same time it's important we do that and these
days when we're all very you know insular on our phones that we remember those tribes that we have
that transcend all of our different beliefs our different political leanings we all get together
and we share this moment and I think he really understands the value of that you know that's
that's vital to him it really is I mean when you guys the movies in cinemas now I can't recommend
you go and see it enough there was like there's a whole bit in it right I propose to my wife in
Rome oh did you yeah and after the harrowing experience of that whole secrets that Rome I
don't think I can ever go back there again I thought you're gonna say after the harrowing
experience of proposing to my wife that was pretty harrowing as well or nerve-wracking
and then Venice we were on a honeymoon I was like Mission Impossible Elite Venice
romantic spots
um okay Simon look it's a pleasure to see you as it always is and as I say I have been
lucky enough to see Mission Impossible dead reckoning part one already and it
is an incredible movie I cannot recommend it enough and it is in cinemas right now
ladies and gentlemen Simon Beck thank you sir my pleasure that's hilarious