CHARLES: HAS THE OLD AMERICAN
SOCIAL CONTRACT THAT INCLUDED
MARRIAGE, CHILDREN AND THAT
HOUSE WITH THE WHITE PICKET
FENCE VANISHED FOR GOOD?
IF SO, WHAT DOES THIS DISRUPTION
TO HOUSEHOLD DEVELOPMENT ALSO
MEAN FOR OUR ECONOMY?
A SIMILAR TREND BEGAN IN JAPAN
ALMOST A COUPLE DECADES AGO AND
HAS HAD DEVASTATING NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON THEIR ECONOMY.
HERE TO DISCUSS, "WALL STREET
JOURNAL" EDITORIAL PAGE WRITER,
DAVID WEBB, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR
AND CHRISTOPHER BEDFORD, DAILY
CALLER EDITOR IN CHIEF.
JILLIAN, IN 1995, JAPAN'S
ECONOMY WAS $5.4 TRILLION.
LAST YEAR, IT WAS $4.9 TRILLION.
NO ECONOMY, MAJOR ECONOMY IN THE
WORLD, HAS COLLAPSED LIKE THIS
HAS COLLAPSED.
THEY HAVE THE OLDEST POPULATION
IN THE WORLD AND IT'S REALLY
REMARKABLE AND I THINK IT ALL
BEGAN WITH THE SO-CALLED GRASS
EATERS, WHEN YOUNG MEN STOPPED
BEING INTERESTED IN GIRLS,
STARTED HAVING SMALL SOCIAL
CIRCLES AND PLAYING VIDEO GAMES
ALL NIGHT.
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE
SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IN THE
UNITED STATES.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME SOCIAL
DYNAMICS GOING ON THAT COULD
EASILY LEAD TO THAT.
WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING WOMEN
BECOMING DISILLUSIONED WITH THE
SEXUAL REVOLUTION, FEELING LIKE
THEY'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH OUT
OF IT, THEN ON THE OTHER HAND,
YOU HAVE MEN ON CAMPUS IN
PARTICULAR CONCERNED ABOUT THE
RISKS OF ENGAGING IN SEXUAL
BEHAVIOR.
ON TOP OF THAT, YOU'VE GOT
PROGRESSIVES TALKING ABOUT TOXIC
MASCULINITY, HOW THINGS LIKE
CHARACTER TRAITS WE USUALLY
ASSOCIATE WITH MEN ARE BAD AND
NEED TO BE CURBED BACK.
I THINK THESE THREE THINGS
TOGETHER ARE MAKING IT MUCH MORE
DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO MEET AND
ULTIMATELY SETTLE DOWN AND HAVE
KIDS.
CHARLES: THERE'S AN ARTICLE THAT
IS OUT THIS WEEK IN "THE
ATLANTIC" BECAUSE THE COVER IS
PRETTY PROVOCATIVE ABOUT A SEX
RECESSION, BUT THERE IT IS RIGHT
THERE, THE SEX RECESSION IN THIS
COUNTRY.
REALLY GOOD ARTICLE AND FOR ME,
TMS THE I CA
IT'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY, WE
SEE IT IN JAPAN.
EARLIER, PRESIDENT XI WENT TO
WAR WITH SOME VIDEO GAME MAKERS
I THINK IN AN ATTEMPT TO CURB IT
FROM HAPPENING THERE.
>> RIGHT.
SOCIETY AFFECTS THE ECONOMY.
IF YOUR SOCIETY BEGINS TO
CHANGE, WHAT IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR
THAT LEADS TO DEVELOPMENT, MALES
WHO ADVANCE AS MALES, WOMEN WHO
ADVANCE AS WOMEN, WOMEN WHO
MARRY OLDER HAVE CHILDREN OLDER
HAS AN EFFECT ECONOMICALLY.
MEN WHO WAIT TO GET INTO THE
WORLD, GET INTO THE COMPETITION,
WE TALK ABOUT ANIMAL SPIRITS IN
THE MARKETS.
WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMAL
COMPETITION IN ALL OF US THAT
LEADS US TO GROW AND ACHIEVE.
IF WE DON'T DO THAT AND GET LOST
IN TECHNOLOGY, WE DON'T LIVE IN
THE REAL WORLD, WE LOSE SOCIAL
INTERACTION, WE LOSE THE DRIVE,
WE LOSE THAT SUCCESS AND THAT
FEELING THAT COMES FROM REALLY
ADVANCING AS PEOPLE, THAT HAS AN
EFFECT ON YOUR ECONOMY.
YOU HAVE TO WANT TO BE
SUCCESSFUL TO FIND THE TOOL OR
THE METHODOLOGY TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
CHARLES: YOU KNOW, CHRIS, LAST
YEAR, U.S. FERTILITY RATES
DROPPED TO THEIR LOWEST LEVEL IN
30 YEARS.
AGAIN, THIS IS WORRISOME STUFF.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING WELL,
YOUNG ADULTS HAVE COLLEGE DEBT,
THEY HAVE ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I
ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE LONG-TERM
RAMIFICATIONS.
>> FERTILITY RATES SHOULD BE
SERIOUSLY WORRISOME.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S
BECAUSE OF BIRTH CONTROL BEING
PUT INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES BY
PEOPLE THROWING OUT THEIR
LEFTOVER PILLS OR BY CONSUMPTION
OF PLASTIC WHICH HAS RISEN TO A
GREAT LEVEL.
ALSO, WHAT'S REALLY --
CHARLES: OR BACK OF A LACK OF
JUST NO SEX DRIVE.
>> WE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY
OUR SEXUAL LIBERATION.
SEX HAS BEEN DEVALUED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPENING OF
THE ATLANTIC, IT'S LISTING ALL
THESE THINGS THAT DEVALUE SEX
LIKE UNLIMITED CONSUMPTION OF
WHATEVER KIND OF PORNOGRAPHY YOU
WOULD LIKE FOR FREE,
CONSERVATIVES COMPLETELY LOST
THAT REVOLUTION.
THE PORNOGRAPHY REVOLUTION.
BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU CAN
BASICALLY GET ANY KIND OF
SATISFACTION YOU LIKE ALONE BY
YOURSELF.
RELATIONSHIPS TAKE WORK.
WHAT'S BEING SOLD BY THE
CONSUMER CULTURE IS INSTANT
GRATIFICATION THAT GOES AGAINST
THAT.
WITHOUT THAT, YOU WILL HAVE A
RISING LEVEL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE AND WOMEN
AND MEN WHO PUT MORE TIME INTO
THEIR CAREERS.
THEY ARE GETTING OLDER, AND
RELATIONSHIPS ONLY GET HARDER AS
YOU GET OLDER.
THIS WILL LEAD TO HUGE SOCIAL
CHAOS AND IT'S ALREADY HERE.
CHARLES: THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF
FEAR HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE IF
PEOPLE FEAR THE INTERACTION IN
COLLEGE, EVEN IN HIGH SCHOOL
ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU THINK ABOUT
THE NEGATIVES THAT HAVE COME OUT
OF THE #METOO MOVEMENT WHICH IS
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WOMEN START
WONDERING WHY GUYS AREN'T ASKING
THEM OUT, WHEN YOU START LOSING
THAT INTERACTION, IT AFFECTS
YOUR LIFE, IT AFFECTS YOUR
DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SEX, BUT IT
IS ONE OF OUR BASIC THINGS IN
LIFE.
WE EAT AND WE REPRODUCE AS HUMAN
BEINGS.
THAT THEN AFFECTS OUR SOCIETY.
>> I DO THINK WOMEN HAVE BEEN
TOLD THROUGHOUT THE SEXUAL
REVOLUTION, BE AS PROMISCUOUS AS
YOU WANT, IT WILL NEVER HAVE
CONSEQUENCES.
YOU LOOK AT THE "NEW YORK TIMES"
WITH THE MODERN LOVE COLUMN, ONE
WOMAN SAYING SHE DATE,000 GU
WOMAN SAYING SHE DATED000 GU
WOMAN SAYING SHE DATED T0 GU
WOMAN SAYING SHE DATED THIGU
WOMAN SAYING SHE DATED THIS GUY,
HE WASN'T WILLING TO COMMIT AND
THAT'S SOMETHING A LOT OF WOMEN
ARE DISCOVERING THAT SEXUAL
LIBERATION HASN'T LED TO
CONTENTMENT AND STABILITY.
CHARLES: YOU THINK THERE COULD
BE A CHANGE SOON OR IT'S SORT OF
THE MILLENIAL MINDSET IF THERE
IS HOUSEHOLD FORMATION IT WILL
COME A LOT LATER IN LIFE AND IF
THAT IS INDEED THE CASE, THERE
WILL BE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES
FOR AMERICA.
I THINK THIS, COUPLED WITH OUR
EDUCATIONAL CRISIS, ARE TWO
THINGS WE DON'T TALK ENOUGH
ABOUT.
>> I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY
OPTIMISTIC FOR MILLENIALS.
YOU DO SEE THEM PUSHING SOME OF
THESE CHOICES BACK BUT THE ONES
I TALK TO ARE DOING IT BECAUSE
THEY WANT STABILITY.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR
DUCKS IN ORDER.
I THINK THEY ARE TAKING
RELATIONSHIPS SERIOUSLY.
CHARLES: LATE BLOOMERS?
>> YEAH.
>> SPEAK TO SOMEONE, MAN OR
WOMAN, AND YOU WILL ADVANCE.
CHARLES: WE GOT TO FIX IT.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.