- [Man] Get that mother (bleep), get him--
- [Billy] Whoa, whoa, whoa, something's going on.
- [Ryan] Get cover, get cover.
- [Billy] I'm coming back, I'm coming back.
(gun firing) (upbeat music)
(baby crying)
- [Man] Don't you wait.
- [Narrator] Welcome to First Person Defender.
Where regular people come face to face
with unknown attackers in real world scenarios
and fight their way out.
- [Man] Get your hands up.
(grunting)
- [Narrator] This is First Person Defender.
- You see workplace shootings all too often in the news.
Today Ryan and Billy are just stopping by work
to pick up their checks but, of course,
we have something in store for them.
Let's see how they handle it.
- [Narrator] This force on force training uses
real firearms converted to fire marking cartridges.
The crew wears yellow shirts and are considered
to be invisible to role-players.
(grim music)
It's payday, Ryan and Billy have arrived at
their workplace to pick up a check.
What they don't realize is the unthinkable
is about to go down inside the office.
(ominous music)
- [Man] (bleep) Go.
(woman screaming)
No, no, no, no, don't (bleep).
(bleep) Hey, hey, no, no, no.
- Hey, watch the area, what happened man, what's going on?
What's going on?
(man yelling) (gun firing)
- [Ryan] Where's he at Billy?
- [Billy] He's on the ground.
(gun firing)
- Hit, End Ex, End Ex, End Ex.
(upbeat music)
- Well, what do you guys think?
- It happened so fast. - Yeah.
That was pretty close. - It happened so fast.
- So talk me through it, walk me through.
- We saw KJ run out.
I only saw a brief second of him
before he was behind the truck.
I didn't know what his situation was.
I didn't know if he was an aggressor or somebody
that was just part of a bad situation.
- [Greg] Right.
- Yeah, 'cause he came at your door.
- 'Cause I remember I came around
the side of the truck and I realized you weren't with me
and I heard footsteps, so I saw a gun in his hand so
I immediately, I aimed down and I fired a shot,
but when I realized, as I was firing the shot,
I hesitated and I didn't hit him,
cause I didn't know if was a bad guy or a good guy.
So I moved around behind this truck
and you started following me.
- [Ryan] Yeah.
- [Billy] I was just moving from cover to cover.
- [Ryan] Yeah.
- From the beginning of the exercise to the end
of the exercise, I had no idea what was going on.
- [Ryan] Yeah.
- Yeah it does absolutely happen very quickly.
I mean, that's real world, how fast this stuff goes down.
Had you hit him, that could have been very bad for you,
had you hit KJ, 'cause he was not a bad guy.
He was in fact a good guy
that had been shot by a bad guy, me.
I always assume everyone's an aggressor
until proven otherwise, right?
Doesn't mean I'm gonna shoot him.
Not shoot at him, shoot him, remember.
- Well once Ryan had it.
Once Ryan had the gun on him, on down on him,
I knew I could just not worry about him and--
- Yeah and that's why it's good
to work in buddy teams, right?
Be polite to everyone
but always have a plan to kill them.
Always have a knife with you like General Mattis says.
Or now Sec Def Mattis.
Always have a knife with you cause there might be
cake but you might need to kill someone too.
(techno music)
- Your ammo choice can effect the recoil
that you feel when shooting a gun.
Inceptor ARX bullets are typically lighter.
This is a .380 and it's a 56 grain bullet,
almost half of what some other standard bullets are,
but because of the design of this bullet with the grooves,
it still preforms when it hits the target.
But a lighter weight bullet will give you less recoil.
Even in this small .380 gun, watch this.
(gun firing)
Gun really doesn't move, so lighter weight bullets,
like the Inceptor ARX, it'll help you
have less recoil when you're shooting.
- Alright so we talked about this scenario,
probably what the better course of action would be,
which is to hunker down, wait outside, cover on the door,
but if you decide you're gonna go in,
there's a way we can, kind of,
clear the majority of the room from outside,
before committing ourselves any closer to the doorway,
and figure our what's in that room before we make entry
and it's called combat clearance or threshold assessment.
So right here, you were standing here.
You were kind of in position so, right away,
I'm going to get my gun up.
I'm going to aimed on the door looking
over the top of my sights,
not actually looking down my sights
because that obscures the rest of my vision.
I want to have situational awareness but it's
gonna be up in my view where, if a guy comes out,
all I've got to do is literally a fraction of an inch.
Move that pistol up and I'm on target.
I can also use this car here and get a little bit
closer to the engin block cause right now, from inside,
I can clear a lot of the left side of this room,
short of that far corner, but if anyone's tucked in there
or just out of the door, I can tell.
I can see what's in there right now.
As I get ready to make entry, instead of moving forward,
I'm gonna move sideways and I'm now gonna combat clear
and clear the rest of the other side.
So I'm gonna keep my pistol oriented right on the edge
of that door, so I gonna start walking.
I'm leaning, I'm walking.
I'm walking, I've got a shoulder right here.
I can put a round in, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Bang, bang, bang.
And I'm picking him up at the closest,
soonest possible moment.
When you are ready, start to move.
Combat clear that door, nice and smooth.
As soon as you can pick up some of that target,
I want you to put a round on it.
(gun firing)
There you go, keep going.
Till your happy with what you've engaged.
Good and End Ex, nice.
- [Narrator] First Person Defender brought to you by
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(gears whirling)
- Full size guns hold a lot of ammo
and they're a pleasure to shoot
but are you gonna carry it all the time?
Ruger brought out the Ruger American Pistol.
Now they have the Ruger American Compact.
Just a little smaller package but
you don't give up a whole lot as far as a carry gun goes.
This still holds 12 in this double stack magazine.
So you've got 12 plus one which is still plenty of ammo.
You think about a full size gun.
If it's too heavy and too clunky where
you may not carry it all the time,
take a look at a compact gun.
(gun firing)
- Alright so Billy and Ryan.
Billy got smoked right out the gate.
Ryan started maneuvering around the vehicles.
He was doing a really good job of using those vehicles
as cover concealment; however, I was armed with a rifle.
Bigger, badder weapon system,
and we need to know what really happens to vehicles
if your assailant has a rifle.
It's not like in Hollywood folks.
Those cars turn into Swiss cheese pretty quick.
So lets give it a go.
(gun firing)
(techno music)
This is what happened to the other side
of the rounds coming through the trunk.
This is what happened to our target.
Lots of fragments, lots of fragmentation, lots of impacts.
Very similar situation, car turns into Swiss cheese.
Look at the size of these holes coming through the
beam pillar, through the doorway.
Alright, lots of fragmentation.
Lots of hits, lots of impacts.
I'd say it's a bad day for him.
So this guy behind the engine block.
The engine block did actually stop the rounds I fired
into it; however some of the rounds that I skipped
off the hood you can see impact him.
Some fragmentation impacted him as well.
So should you ever find yourself in a situation like this,
you cannot use a vehicle, just hunker down behind.
Even if you're faced with a pistol,
especially if your faced with a rifle.
(gun firing)
(techno music)
(gun firing)
- More power, that what you want in a self defense,
personal protection gun.
Well now, you have the Springfield Armory XDM in 10mm.
10mm is a lot more power, it's basically a .40 magnum.
It's really what it was before they reduced the .40.
And this is great for home defense, but also
I was just out in Idaho and for critter protection,
bears, wolves, that kind of stuff,
more power is always a good thing,
and in this full sized package,
still a pleasant gun to shoot.
(gun firing)
- [Narrator] In this scenario, Billy and Ryan
are challenged again with an active shooter.
Will the training learned be enough when
confronted with new dangers?
- [Man] Get that mother (bleep), get him--
- [Ryan] Whoa, whoa, whoa, somethings going on.
- [Billy] Get cover.
- [Ryan] I'm coming back, I'm coming back.
(gun firing)
Gunshots, gunshots.
- [Billy] Get over here Ryan.
- [Ryan] I'm right here, I'm right by you.
- Shit. - On your right.
- [Man] There's still more people back there, get him.
- [Ryan] I see him, he's right at the door.
- [Billy] Yeah I see it,
I see it there. - Lets approach it.
Hold on, I'm gonna go around to the right side of the car.
- Hold-- - I see him.
- Get em. - He's got a gun, hold on.
- [Man] Get around the back, get around the back.
Get the check, all of them, take them now.
- [Ryan] We got to do something dude.
- [Man] (bleep) go.
(gun firing) (grunting)
- [Ryan] He's down.
(gun firing)
He's down, he's down,
let's move up, I'm going to the right.
(man yelling) (gun firing)
- You good? - Stay back, stay back.
They're down, he's down, don't move.
- [Man] End Ex, End Ex, End Ex.
(techno music)
- You got out of the truck, go.
- I got out of the truck, I heard gunfire.
So I immediately wanted to alert my buddy
and I drew immediately.
- [Greg] Good.
- I didn't want to expose myself too much
so that's why I decided to go that way.
I checked in with Billy and we kind of started communicating
deciding what we were going to do.
I was expecting someone to come out injured
and I wanted to push up
but Billy's like let's stay together.
Which was probably the better--
- Wait, wait, Billy was the voice of reason.
- [Ryan] Billy was the voice of reason.
- [Greg] No.
- [Ryan] And I kinda got on the ground underneath Billy
and I shot him until he fell down right here
and then I knew that was when I probably should move.
- Initially when we were both gonna go in.
We were gonna try to get in so
I was gonna have it covered for him
and then he was gonna have it covered for me.
- Call that bounding over watch.
One's moving while one's covering.
The next one's covering while the other one's moving.
And you guys zipped me up pretty quickly, which was good.
You guys zipped me up before I even exited the door.
So during the situation, did either of you guys
think to call 911?
- It didn't even go through my mind.
- Not even a thought.
- No. - Shoot, kill, aggress.
- Had there been nothing going on for 10 or so seconds,
I would have thought maybe we should call 911.
- I'm not going to wait for some help
unless it's clear that I can
because you never know how long it could take
for somebody else to show up.
- Well and that's exactly it, you're in the moment,
and when seconds count, the cops are minutes away.
(upbeat music)