ALCOVE,
ALCOVE, HERE'S MARGARET LARSON. >>> DISCRIMINATION, RACISM,
ACTIONS KNOWN AS MICRO
AGGRESSIONS ARE AN UNFORTUNATE
REALITY FOR MANY WOMEN OF
COLOR, MAYBE ALL OF THEM.
A NEW BOOK OUT HELPS READERS
KNOW WHAT TO DO TO ADVOCATE FOR
THEMSELVES TO SECURE A SEAT AT
THE TABLE AND FINE EQUITY IN
THE WORKPLACE.
THE WORKPLACE. THE BOOK IS FOR EVERYONE.
IT MAY BE ABILITY WOMEN OF
COLOR AND THEIR EXPERIENCES.
BUT WE CAN ALL LEARN SOMETHING
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. CAN
HERE. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE
INTENT BEHIND THE BOOK.
>> THE INTENT WAS FOR WOMEN OF
COLOR TO BE CENTERED IN THE
CAREER NARRATIVE.
CAREER NARRATIVE. OFTENTIMES THE BOOKS WE READ ON
THE SHELVES AREN'T TALKING
ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF WOMEN
OF COLOR IN PARTICULAR SO BEING
SOMEONE WHO WAS IN THE WORK
FORCE IN CORPORATE AMERICA FOR
15 YEARS I WAS ONE OF THE ONLY
ONES AND I THOUGHT YOU KNOW
WHAT, IT'S TIME WE'RE NOT
HIDDEN ANY LONGER AND I WANT
OUR ALLIES TO KNOW WHAT IT'S
LIKE FOR US TO SHOW UP AS THE
ONLY ONES.
ONLY ONES. >> IT'S INTERESTING TO READ
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A PERSON
OF COLOR WHO I IMAGINE IS
FAMILIAR WITH THESE
EXPERIENCES, BUT IT'S A GIFT I
THINK TO THE REST OF US TO
LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVED
EXPERIENCES AND BE ABLE TO TAKE
THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
ARE YOU GETTING THAT SORT OF
RESPONSE FROM READERS ?
>> YES, I ACTUALLY AM.
I ACTUALLY RECEIVED SO MANY
EMAILS FROM WHITE MEN AND WOMEN
SAYING THOUSAND.
SAYING THOUSAND. I WASN'T GOING TO READ THE
BOOK.
BOOK.
BOOK. BUT
BOOK. BUT I WANTED TO LEARN.
AND I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS
BOOK IS FOR EVERYONE.
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF
WORK.
WORK.
WORK. YOU
WORK. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
IT'S LIKE FOR US TO SHOW UP AND
HOW YOU CAN BE HELPFUL.
>> WHEN YOU SAY CARING ABILITY
THE FUTURE OF WORK.
WORK WHERE EVERYBODY IS
INCLUDED WHERE WE GET THE MOST
OUT OF EVERYONE'S POTENTIAL,
THAT SORT OF THING.
>> EQUITY, IF I'M THE ONLY ONE,
I CAN STILL HAVE SKIN IN THE
GAME.
GAME.
GAME. MY
GAME. MY CAN STILL MATTER.
HOW CAN YOU PARTNER ON THE
TRAIL TO SUCCESS WITH ME.
I THINK THE INSIGHTS I SHARE
FOR ALL OF US.
IT WILL OPEN UP THE
CONVERSATION TO A LARGER
CONVERSATION ON DIVERSITY AND
EQUITY.
EQUITY.
EQUITY. >> IF YOU COULD GIVE ME AN
EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT I
MIGHT NOT SEE.
I MIGHT MISS IF I'M IN THIS
MEETING BUT MAKES AN IMPACT ON
YOU.
YOU.
YOU. >>
YOU. >> YEAH, SO ONE OF MY PREVIOUS
MANAGERS I HAD ORANGE NAIL
POLISH ON.
POLISH ON. AND HE SAID IN THE ROOM WITH MY
OTHER COLLEAGUES, ACTUALLY, WE
WERE IN THE CAR, HE SAID YOU
KNOW WHAT, YOU PEOPLE LOVE YOUR
BRIGHT COLORS.
BRIGHT COLORS. AND NO ONE ELSE STOOD UP FOR
ME.
ME.
ME. AND
ME. AND I
ME. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF I COULD
SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
HE LAUGHED AND I PLAYED IT OFF.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT SOMETIMES WE
DON'T SEE HOW THAT MIGHT BE
IMPACTFUL AND AS A YOUNG 23-
YEAR-OLD IN THE WORK FORCE AND
BEING ONE OF THE ONLY ONES I
DIDN'T KNOW IF I COULD SAY
ANYTHING TO HIM.
SO I DIDN'T.
AND THOSE THINGS HAPPENED
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
>> AND PEOPLE I THINK THEY'RE
DISCOMFORT IN THE MOMENT OR YOU
DON'T WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT OR
WHATEVER ELSE IT IS.
BUT THAT COMMENT, WHEN I LISTEN
TO IT.
TO IT.
TO IT. I
TO IT. I HEAR HE SAW FIRST AND
FOREMOST ABOUT YOU THAT YOU'RE
A WOMAN OF COLOR AND THAT WAS
AT THE TOP OF WAYS IN WHICH YOU
WERE VIEWED.
WERE VIEWED. AM I CLOSE TO CORRECT?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> WHAT COULD I AS AN ALLY SAY
IN A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THAT?
>> I HAD ANOTHER COLLEAGUE WHO
WAS A WHITE MALE WHO WAS THERE
WHEN THAT HAPPENED AND HE COULD
HAVE SAID, WE DON'T TALK LIKE
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
INSTEAD OF ME FITTING WITHIN
THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE IT
THROUGH THE DAY AFTER HEARING
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AN ALLY IN
PUBLIC AND NOT IN PRIVATE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS
MUCH IF YOU'RE NOT, RIGHT?
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO
UNDERSTAND HAS MORE PEOPLE GET
INTO CONGRESS AND VARIOUS
POSITIONS OF POWER IS THAT WE
ALL WALK THROUGH LIFE AND
GATHER ROCKS IN OUR BASKET,
THINGS THAT WEIGH US DOWN.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SMALL AND
LARGE EXPERIENCES AROUND JUST
WHO THEY ARE, JUST WALKING
AROUND IN THEIR SKIN, THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT
IMPEDIMENT TO EQUALITY LIFE,
CORRECT?
CORRECT?
CORRECT? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. HOW DO YOU SHOW UP AS YOUR
AUTHENTIC SELF IF I HAVE TO
MODIFY IT ACCORDING TO MAKING
PEOPLE COMFORTABLE.
PEOPLE COMFORTABLE. I THINK THIS BOOK IS FOR
EVERYONE.
EVERYONE.
EVERYONE. AND I THINK AT THE CORE OF IT.
WE ALL WANT TO DO BETTER.
AND SOMETIMES WE NEED THE
HANDBOOK TO DO SO.
>> I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU WROTE
THIS IN THIS WAY.
WHAT DO YOU SEE CHANGING AND
WHAT DO WE NEED TO WORK ON MOST
OF ALL.
OF ALL.
OF ALL. >> I THINK FOR ONE, WOMEN OF
COLOR, THEY SEE THEMSELVES IN
THE NARRATIVE AS I MENTIONED
BEFORE.
BEFORE.
BEFORE. IT'S HARD TO MOVE FORWARD IF
YOU'RE NOT ACKNOWLEDGED IN
CAREER BOOKS.
CAREER BOOKS. I'VE HEARD FROM MANY BLACK AND
BROWN WOMEN SAYING, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
SO MUCH.
SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND I THINK ALSO TOO.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL MANAGERS
AND LEADERS TO READ THIS BOOK.
I WANT YOU TO GET THE MOST OUT
OF YOUR UNTAPPED TALENT.
>> THIS MIGHT ALSO BE A GOOD
READ FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
>> YES, ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT
A MODIFIED VERSION FOR YOUNG
ADULTS.
ADULTS.
ADULTS. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD
THING.
THING.
THING. I
THING. I GET THE FEELING THAT YOUNG
PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE WORLD
VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN MY
GENERATION DID GROWING UP.
AND THAT THE MORE THE BETTER IN
TERMS OF INFORMATION.
PEOPLE MAY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS
BUT IF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT
IT INTO AFFECT, YOU'VE HELPED
ME BE BETTER WITH THAT.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN
HOW WILL WE NOW WHEN WE MADE
PROGRESS.
PROGRESS.
PROGRESS. >> IF YOU LOOK AT FORTUNATE 500
COMPANIES, YOU LOOK AT THE
ABOUT US PAGE, IF THERE'S MORE
WOMEN OF COLOR ON THAT PAGE,
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START.
WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT
OUR ACTIVISM.
OUR ACTIVISM. THAT REQUIRES US TO BE IN THE
PIPELINE.
PIPELINE.
PIPELINE. WHEN YOU HAVE OPEN POSITIONS,
MAKE SURE WE'RE INTERVIEWING
PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
IT'S SMALL ACTS OF COURAGE THAT
GO A LONG WAY.
THAT'S A WORNFUL THING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LOVELY TO MEET YOU.
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