Piers Morgan invited Janet mocktail come on as a program again and talk about or
debate
some the criticism she had over the previous interview she had on his
program
so previously she went on to promote her book and she want to talk about the
struggles love the transgender community
and in the process of doing that Piers Morgan after some questions about the
transgender community thought
were extremely insensitive and some people thought it was actually cool
if you don't remember that we have a little mashup about how the interview
went let's take a quick look at that
services see the amazing thing I have I not know anything about your story
I would have had absolutely not a clue
do you have ever being a boy
a male which makes me
absolutely believe you said you should always have been a woman and that must
have been what you felt
when you were young you ever feel like
say I can't deal with this I'm gonna have to go back to
being a boy Charles at what point did you change a light
paid to the federal courage this you going through school you gone from
charleston Janet from
boys clothes to go through a close and you
cope with all the teasing and bullying me come through this major I get strong
in your head tough say I'm gonna go through properly this
and become a woman have a transgender operation which is
a huge thing to do it 18 tell me how he felt when you when you she
we're approaching the operation with what was the moment
of you had it when you looked in the mirror and were finally able to thing
while that is who I'm supposed to be
so majority the questions focused on her transition from a male to a female and
people are offended by that because they felt that
he neglected to talk about real issues that impact the transgender community
including
unemployment army you know including some the violence against transgender
people
I'm so what do you think about the original area I mean look
i'ma fairly late comer to this
story so was it the ideal
interview that the transgender that many people in the transgender community
wanted
I guess probably not but they don't have a show Piers Morgan s Show
your and the notion that he was
disrespectful or sensationalize did I find to be
warship and there's a difference between saying
I don't think Piers Morgan did a good interview and there were issues that he
could have tackled
between what ended up happening which was that Piers Morgan had to defend
himself
against accusations and this order onslaught
that he was anti transgender they just those things are
incompatible like I guess you could have done it different interview and I guess
talking to transgender leaders beforehand about
some other things to talk about that said he's got provide he's asking
questions that people would want to know the answer to and I thought he did a
respectful way
wouldn't even occur to me to really harshly criticized him for that
and i'm open to recognizing that I'll as he was
that I don't know all the issues based in the
he probably should have gotten to some but there's no way those questions were
agenda at work what I would I in no way found those questions
disrespectful use it on famous person
right and so when you have a on famous burger the person who's written a book
that you were going to make an argument on your television shows a book that I
love interest to america
because what she has to say is interesting you gotta introduce them to
this person
you've got to make them care about you or no one is this a go I'm not disagree
with you on that I think it is important for
the audience to understand what her struggle was with her transition was
but again he could have delved into the details love
the community as a whole because I think that's what she was trying to do I think
that she's an advocate for that community obviously as you want to draw
attention to those issues
now %uh Piers Morgan did not handle the criticism well originally
you put out a tweet and he basically threatened her he's like I don't
understand this this is disgusting I'm paraphrasing
but he did say I you know all deal with you tomorrow
right and and not seem like a threat bow and stern about you gonna do it on the
air like you
yeah you know issue a stern commentary right
the home but instead issuing a stern commentary he actually invited her back
on the program and that's why
we're updating you on this story today he said among other things also he was
like he he he was incredulous and I understood his
incredulity in can't be ordered
bun because he was like hey it and he was gay he was disrespectful
in his tweets when he was like hey 88 lb GB
Dale LGBT community and he didn't say but I was the tourney this tweet was
I'm on your break inside why are you yelling at me yeah
about that what he ran on I don't know how this what was
unquestionably a I think a smart look it was a smart move now we want to show you
guys a snippet on the interview and then you can judge for yourself
take a look out alone why it is so offensive
too and she just say that you grew up as a boy
and you then because you always felt that you were female you had surgery
to you G become a woman to become a real woman is the same the book
why is it offensive them
I think that we need to have a discussion about when gender is in
gender expectations in our culture
I think that we are born and we are signed a sex at birth that is a matter
not a bath
have control over but we do have control over our destiny number i'd
our identities and we should be respected
it's not about the past it's not about what surgeries
I may or may not have had it's not about well how I disclose my gender to people
it's not who I am right now I'm Janet mock I'm author redefining run as an
atmosphere strands advocate
and I will continue to be exactly that
don't get it don't get it back to answer monocyte
they're on as I mean haven't seen enough but she looked at talking point first
very clearly one that was on her lap and
she gave an answer that is like a stand like that was injured that you want to
ask questions if you if your gonna answer questions like that
I'm never having you on my show I got is not a interesting interview at all
she gave a pat like sports guys do all the time
that we gave 110 percent we did everything we could you know you gotta
respect the others I would take it one game at a time
little I don't care wouldn't think so I did you the whole interview but that was
a
I mean he asked the question like why did you all get mad at me legit chance
to
and she was like it's not about what happened in the past the more people
don't know who you are
course it matters yeah it's not shouldn't be the only thing
but and that he asked too many questions about like maybe you i think i
yet so if he asks one or two questions about her transition I I have absolutely
no problem with that
but I again I think that the reason why the community was upset was because that
seems to be
the majority of what the interview was about right but asking
questions about the transition i think is important because people want to
understand
why you make that decision reading that it's actually a good opportunity
for someone who a identifies as transgender
to explain the differences between gender and sex for instance because a
lot of people don't know that they don't understand that
you might be born with one sex but you identify with the different gender
right so she could have clarified that she could have talked about that
and and you know after she does clarify that she does talk about that then it's
time to move on
she could take in control the interview and said all right now to talk about
what's really going on with our community
and wide the ignorance that people have about us leads to this kind of violence
into the unemployment issue that we're dealing with
so I am I'm somewhere in the middle and I usually don't do that right like i IC
where the transgender community is coming from it and I see where Piers
Morgan is coming from it I don't think he meant
any ill intent and I think that's the reason why you know where r
support above the interview because he didn't come out and support the
community
he didn't use them just as sensationalizes show that's not a sense
I got from the interviewee
shit there because certainly been more sensationalistic
thats not hard to imagine yeah that you could have
dwelled on that sex aspect of it the sexual life
aspect yeah rather than the gender aspect of its own and I want nothing but
the best for
the transgender community like i i'd I would never be supportive
anyone who uses them to sensationalize their show
or anyone who a is outspoken against their rights or any quality
but I find people like that absolutely disgusting I just didn't get that sense
from the CW
but we hear it but with that said and I i'm sympathetic to Piers Morgan but like
mostly the he doesn't leadership piece by is much more can he stop for
so the wooden didn't take away that people should happen there's I guess
this is probably the take away the did Janet mock and and some others in the
in the community what it was this is a hard life
at the misunderstood life and its ally for you are misunderstood literally from
the time you become aware
for the time you have a sense of self wall you are
misunderstood and so now this order
beautiful woman who is a perfect ideal spokesman
for the community up goes on television
and to some extent they're talking about the same old crap again
so I get away may come back peddling a little bit lining
nothing against Piers Morgan but what we learned here was that bad they must be
incredible frustration
overboard understood and the irony is that they should be will be
misunderstood for so long and now here's a person
who's broken free in bed like look god damn it look at me I'm this beautiful
woman that's who I am hmm
and then still a little bit misunderstood and that's a shortcoming
that they're all about that we get alerted
and Piers Morgan seems open to learning any reacted angrily at first
a totally human understandable reaction so I get it but the important thing
would be
who I guess that it that we got to do a better job try to understand that you
definitely know there's one final part in this I know we've already gone on way
too long but
there is one thing that I think that he could have up avoided doing it was
having a panel discussion
analyzing the second interview he had with her the panel discussion consisted
of three other guests that are not part of the transgender community
whatsoever and some of them may points I think part definitely offensive take a
look at that I want to hear you have to say but
watching the green room it was really confusing to understand what
the conflict was so I asked to have the folks that came with her to the
interview and it basically
be contention is that Janet never what's been referred to as ever having been a
boy
because from her point of view she was always a girl let me answer was
correct but it seem like I was really more of a semantic issue here because
the one
and only reason why she's on the show has written a book is getting national
attention
was because she was born with male genitalia went through surgery
and is now female and thats brinkley a pretty sensational thing to go through
in life
but I still feel pretty in Greece the lying went from being
eighty loud and vocal supporter the transgender community
to the greatest villain in the Haight Street on the tragedy community
within 24 hours I don't really nothing to say now why
I I totally get your frustration peers but I think this is what the challenges
are being an ally
I think it can be frustrating for communities when allies are back
community when they're questioned her challenger critics say
hey wait a min overtake me I'm your best friend I'm an ally as I got my people
point to the number black friends they have more
about men talk about that the binders full of women that they've hired you
know
it's really important for us to take pretty and think about it there was not
a bad interview you were incredibly gracious peers and I don't give you a
lot of credit
on this 1 I'll give you full credit she decided I'm sure whether PR team is
watching right now
and welcome to this world of selling books we aren't selling it up
we need a fake controversy let's attack Piers Morgan
drop a fake F word in there even know we had no problem with the five days ago
to sell more books Amy Holmes didn't help either
no she did on so I thought that was a brilliant bad part the site and we want
to watch
love Mark Lyall said some smart yes my right hand and
the other two didn't not yet and that doesn't it just doesn't
it doesn't help that mean a handbag and Piers Morgan shoulda known
amor bring to conserve is on here like whatever the you then you just get into
that thing
you did the interview again he should've left to be done with it or bring on Marc
Lamont hill and discuss like you know
that one point would've been interesting why did they get so mad at me I still
don't quite get it now mark over here we have a discussion
it is reasonable because they're both coming at it from a boy viewers back but
she had to get into that
sensational already change it male genital area each
hinged yeah I'll be at shut up our time it was
called for an unnecessary but I mean I'm glad that he called her back for a
second interview they seem to clarify things and now it seems like things have
cleared up a little bit