This morning, Judge Arthur and Gawain, who is presiding over Donald Trump's
New York civil fraud case, was the victim of yet another threat.
And this time, and this time, it was specifically a bomb threat.
A bomb squad was sent to Norton's home to investigate,
and luckily nothing came of that incident.
But it is part of this recurring pattern in which the enemies of Trump, or at least
his perceived enemies, are harassed by his supporters, threatened by his supporters.
So both Engoron and his law clerk have already been sent
like hundreds of violent messages.
And that's according to attorneys for the New York state court system.
I mean, I want to give you, like, some examples of what people are sending them.
I mean, honestly, you should be assassinated, said one.
You should be killed. You should be executed.
That was another one.
Yet another threat sent to them said, resign now, you dirty,
treasonous piece of trash snake.
We are going to get you and any one of you dirty, backstabbing,
lying, cheating American.
You are nothing but a bunch of communists and we are coming
to remove you permanently.
Seem like well-adjusted individuals seem like they've got, you know,
things taken care of in their own lives.
Now, unfortunately, Judge Engoron isn't the only judge
who's been met with these violent threats.
Just last Sunday, Tanya Chutkan, yet another judge overseeing a Trump case.
This time, it has to do with Trump's federal election interference case
was swatted.
We shared some details about others who have been swatted
in the political world recently, and these incidents are not uncommon.
The MAGA movement was basically resorting.
They've been resorting to some violent threats for some time now,
so much so that Republican lawmakers are basically terrified of provoking them.
And so in his biography and the biography of Mitt Romney written by McKay Coppins,
Coppins writes that one Republican congressman confided to Romney
that he wanted to vote for Trump's second impeachment, but chose not
to out of fear for his family's safety, and Democratic Representative
Jason Crow had a similar experience before that impeachment vote, he told MSNBC.
I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night,
and a couple of them broke down in tears, saying that they are afraid for their
lives if they vote for this impeachment.
And during a Fox town hall last night, Trump was even asked to condemn
political violence, and he seemed to have a little bit of trouble doing it.
He seemed to deny that there was even any political violence in his terme.
Well, of course, that's right.
And of course I'm the one that had very little of it,
meaning the political violence.
And, I don't know, maybe I'm not. I'm not steeped in the real world.
Maybe I'm wrong here, Ravonna.
But if I remember correctly, there's a little bit of political violence
under Trump's watch.
- A little bit, just. - A tiny bit.
Just a tad. Just a few people died at the Capitol.
Just a couple people, committed suicide by cop while attacking federal buildings, FBI
buildings after they raided Mar a Lago.
Completely absurd statement from him, but, you know, also completely expected.
I feel like and we've covered this rise in support for political violence
within the MAGA movement, because even within the Republican Party,
which has a higher level of support for it than the Democratic Party or independents,
MAGA supporters specifically have a much higher inclination to use political
violence than even average Republicans.
Do. You know, to the extent that there's such a thing
as an average Republican nowadays?
But I feel like people don't quite grasp the seriousness of this
even post January 6th.
A lot of people have a tendency to downplay the I mean,
what was a violent attack on the Capitol and an attempt to overthrow democracy?
And I'm hoping that the videos that came out on this, the third anniversary
of January 6th, maybe wake people up.
They were running in, they were burrowing into a room with guns pointed at them.
They did not care. Actually, Babbitt did not care.
They their love for Donald Trump was such, and their membership of this cult was such
that she was literally staring down the face of a gun, being told, don't
enter this room, don't enter this room.
And she still did it, and everyone around her was still like chanting and excited.
They didn't care about that very real threat against them in that moment.
That is how consumed these people are in these cults.
And every time we get a new batch of Trump supporter content,
from, Michael Shore at the rallies, it listening to what these people think,
they absolutely, wholeheartedly support the idea of using violence again in 2024.
Even if Trump wins, particularly when it comes to these, if he wins the election,
there's still going to tell us that there was fraud
and they're still willing to use violence.
That's how brainwashed these people are, and they pose a serious threat.
And we'll get into later the story about the FBI.
But they don't seem to care about these threats.
You know, they care more about, racially profiling and targeting
brown people in this country.
Well, you know what I think what I think is so interesting is I wish
that there was some way of knowing what percentage of these Trump supporters
have genuinely bought into the notion that the election was stolen from Trump.
Right.
Because think about the kind of narratives they hear
in the filter bubbles they exist in.
Right?
And we exist in our own filter bubble, and it's really incumbent upon us
to kind of pierce through it and try to understand other perspectives.
But in this case, with the Trump supporters
and the election allegedly being stolen, they think the country is under attack.
They think that Democrats are purposefully allowing, you know, open borders
so undocumented immigrants can come in in droves and vote for Democrats,
even though you can't vote unless you're, you know, here legally,
you're a United States citizen.
And by the way, the migrant crisis is currently actually hurting
the Biden administration at the moment, including with Democratic voters
in some of these blue cities that have seen an influx of migrants come
in and little resources given to them by the federal government to deal with it.
But anyway, like all of these narratives, though, have been playing out in.
Conservative media for a very long time.
And they they would trust Trump with their life.
That's why when Trump told them we're going to march to the Capitol,
they felt that they had full protection.
The president of the United States told us to do it right.
So there's like a part of me that's like, so frustrated with them because
they're destroying their own lives.
On behalf of a guy who's a bit of a con artist.
And but there's also the part of me that feels kind of bad for them
because they're ruining their lives on behalf of a con artist and Ashli Babbitt,
like, I don't celebrate that.
Like my heart breaks for that woman.
Like she was lied to and she lost her life as a result of that.
And it's just absolutely sick.
And all these people sending threats to judges, they're going to investigate
and they're going to find you and you're going to face criminal charges.
Don't do this dumb stuff. Please don't do this.
But I mean, I'm sure it's falling on deaf ears.
The bomb threat comes just one day after Engoron had denied
Trump's request to speak in the closing arguments of that trial.
This is the civil, trial having to do with fraud.
And Goren actually agreed that he could speak as long as he followed
certain rules, certain conditions, like don't introduce new evidence,
don't comment on irrelevant matters, which is probably the most challenging
thing in the world for Trump to do.
Don't deliver a campaign speech, okay? This ain't a rally.
And don't attack the judge. Which, by the way, you shouldn't.
When you are like going through trial proceedings and the judge is going
to determine what your penalties are going to be in the civil case,
how about don't attack the judge, just be smart enough to not attack the judge.
Anyway, eventually the judge actually did agree to let him speak and he broke
all the rules because of course he did.
So there you have it.
I guess, the back and forth between Trump and and Goren might have inspired that,
bomb threat from the Trump supporter, but this is all incredibly gross.
This trial is coming to an end.
We'll find out eventually what the penalties will be.
But, any final words on this? Before we wrap it up.
I'll just say that this trial has been a total masterclass
in attorney incompetency, because you you're exactly right.
He's attacking the judge who is deciding the penalties.
And the only reason the judge is deciding the penalties is because Trump's attorneys
didn't ask for a jury trial.
They could waived it, right? They could have done that.
They could have a jury trial, and then he wouldn't be literally
attacking the man who holds the ability for him to do business in the state
in the palm of his hand.
It's been ridiculous.
But that's what happens when you know, you've when you're a con artist criminal,
far right, fascistic former president who picks his attorneys
based off who the hottest lawyer on Newsmax is on any given day.
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