UNCERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS, OIL,
SYRIAN SITUATION.
NANCY PELOSI WHO ASSIDUOUSLY
AVOIDED THE "I" WORD,
IMPEACHMENT, OUT OF NOWHERE
BRINGING JUST THAT UP MOMENTS
AGO.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> FIVE OF THE SIX COMMITTEES OF
JURISDICTION HAVE THE POTENTIAL
FOR SUBPOENAS.
THEY HAVEN'T ALL ISSUED
SUBPOENAS BUT THAT IS WHERE WE
SEE SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY.
AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW ON ARTICLES
OF IMPEACHMENT FOR PRESIDENT
NIXON ARTICLE III WAS THAT HE
IGNORED THE SUBPOENAS OF
CONGRESS.
THAT HE DID NOT HONOR THE
SUBPOENAS OF CONGRESS.
THIS IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS.
STATEMENTS BEING MADE BY THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
HAS GIVEN A BLANKET STATEMENT
THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO HONOR
ANY SUBPOENAS IS OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT.
A LITTLE BUMPY THERE.
I THINK YOU GET THE GIST OF WHAT
SHE IS SAYING.
FIRST TIME FORMALLY USING
IMPEACHMENT AS A POSSIBILITY.
LAYING THE GROUNDWORK AT THE
PRESIDENT'S DOORSTEP SAYING BY
HIS IGNORING SUBPOENAS AND
DEMAND THAT HIS PEOPLE TESTIFY,
INCLUDING BY THE WAY THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED
STATES, YOU KNOW, THAT COURSE IS
NOW SET.
IS IT?
FORMER CRUZ CAMPAIGN POLLSTER,
TED CRUZ CAMPAIGN POLLSTER I
APOLOGIZE, CHRIS WILSON,
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST, ROGER
FISK.
ROGER IS THAT TAKING A PREMATURE
LEAP HERE?
IT IS CERTAINLY AMONG THOSE
ISSUES SORT OF FRAZZLING
INVESTORS A LITTLE BIT.
SHOULD IT BE?
>> FIRST OFF, THANKS SO MUCH FOR
HAVING ME.
I THINK WHAT SPECIFICALLY
TRIGGERED THE REACTION FROM THE
SPEAKER WAS THE ATTORNEY JESS
RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION FROM
REPRESENTATIVE CRIST ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAD BEEN
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
EXPRESSING RESERVATIONS OR ANY
KIND OF CONTENTION ABOUT HOW THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS PORTRAYING
THE INVESTIGATION IN THIS
FOUR-PAGE SUMMARY.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID THERE
WERE NONE.
THEN YESTERDAY HE EXPLAINED AT
LENGTH THAT THERE WERE
DISCREPANCIES, AND THERE WERE
ISSUES.
AND I THINK WHEN SOMEONE --
NEIL: SHE IS ARGUING THAT HE
ESSENTIALLY PERJURED HIMSELF,
RIGHT?
>> AND THAT IS MY POINT.
YOU CAN HAVE A BROAD PATTERN OF
DISHONESTY BUT WHEN SOMEONE DOES
THAT TO THE INSTITUTION YOU ARE
THE LEADER OF, SHE LOOKS UPON IT
AS RESPONSIBILITY WHERE THAT IS
A VERY SPECIFIC ACT THAT SHE CAN
POINT TO AS BREAKING FAITH IN
THE SEPARATION OF POWERS.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT.
MIGHT BE SO.
YOU GUYS ARE LEGAL EXPERTS I'M
NOT.
ALL I KNOW, CHRIS WILSON, IS
THAT THE REPORT DID COME OUT.
PEOPLE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE
92% OF IT THAT WAS NOT REDACTED.
AND THEY CAN DECIDE FOR
THEMSELVES.
DID HE OVERREACH OR NOT.
FAR SMARTER PEOPLE THAN I COME
TO THE CONCLUSION HE DIDN'T TAKE
ANY UNDO LEAPS.
OTHERS HAVE SAID, OBSTRUCTION IS
IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.
SOMETHING THAT REPORTS SEEMED TO
HINT AT BUT DIDN'T MAKE A FINAL
CONCLUSION.
I WILL LEAVE PEOPLE WHO KNOW
THIS STUFF BETTER TO DEBATE.
WHAT I'M WONDERING THOUGH IS,
HAS THE TRAIN LEFT THE STATION
FOR MUCH LONGER, MORE INVOLVED,
MORE ACRIMONIOUS, POSSIBLY MUCH
MORE FAR-REACHING HEARINGS, EVEN
IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS THAN 24
HOURS AGO WE THOUGHT POSSIBLE?
>> TIME WILL TELL.
I THINK THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS
ARE ACTING ON THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE IS
REALLY, JUST THROWING A TEMPER
TANTRUM AS YOUR LAST GUEST SAID.
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC MOVED ON THIS.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS POLLS, I
COULD CITE THREE OR FOUR OFF THE
TOP OF MY HEAD PEOPLE JUST DON'T
CARE ANYMORE.
THEY WANT CONGRESS TO MOVE ON.
THEY WANT WASHINGTON TO START
TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
WE'RE AT POINT NOBODY REALLY
CARES ABOUT IT ANYMORE EXCEPT
FOR INSIDE BELTWAY PRESS CORPS
AND LIBERAL ACTIVITIES ON
TWITTER.
THE PROBLEM LIBERAL ACTIVISTS ON
TWITTER MOTIVATING, DEMOCRATIC
LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE.
NEIL: ATTORNEY GENERAL WANT TO
CALL HIS BLUFF, ALL RIGHT, I
WILL MEET WITH YOU, I'M VERY
COMFORTABLE IN MY OWN LEGAL
SHOES.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY AND ALL
QUESTIONS.
BUT NOT DOING SO, I CAN
UNDERSTAND THE REASON, WITH
SEPARATE LAWYERS DOING THE
QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IT JUST FIRES UP BOTH SIDES,
RIGHT?
>> IT DOES.
I THINK HE PROVED VERY
COMFORTABLE IN HIS OWN LEGAL
SHOES HE SAID YESTERDAY IN FROND
OF THE SENATE.
WHAT HE WAS WALKING INTO WITH
NADLER, WHATEVER THEY BROUGHT IN
OUTSIDE COUNSEL WAS A P-R STUNT.
I DON'T BLAME BARR AT ALL.
HE STAYED THERE YESTERDAY.
ANSWERS EVERY QUESTION GIVEN TO
HIM.
I THINK DID SO VERY
EMPHATICALLY.
WHY WALK IN FRONT OF A COMMITTEE
WHERE JERRY NADLER, CUTTING OFF
MICS OF REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE.
TWO WEEKS AGO GETS EMBARRASSED
BY CANDACE OWENS MADE HIM LOOK
LIKE ABSOLUTE MORON.
IF I'M HIM I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO
IN FRONT OF THAT COMMITTEE
EITHER.
PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD
BE MOST UPSET ARE DEMOCRAT
MEMBERS WHO WERE BASICALLY BEING
SUPPLANTED BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY WHEN YOUR OWN
CHAIRMAN DOESN'T HAVE THE
CONFIDENCE IN YOU TO SIT THERE
ASK QUESTIONS AN HIRES OTHER
PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR YOU.
NEIL: THAT AS IT MAY, I WONDER,
ROGER, IF DEMOCRATS HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL THEY COULD BE
OVERPLAYING THEIR HAND, LOOK
ZEALOUS LIKE REPUBLICANS WERE
GOING AFTER BILL CLINTON, CAME
BACK TO BITE THEIR HEINIES?
>> THEY DO NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS.
IF YOU COME INTO THIS WITH
OVERPOLITICAL AGENDA, THAT IS
NOT GOING TO WORK WELL IN THE
LONG RUN.
THIS NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN BY THE
FACTS.
BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL IS DOING A
FAVOR FOR THE ADMINISTRATION
BECAUSE HE IS SERVING HIMSELF UP
AS VERY AT TRACK TIFF TARGET FOR
CRITICISM.
A LOT OF HIS PERFORMANCE
YESTERDAY WAS ODD.
I YOW! UP WITH A VERY DOUGH I
CAN AND KIND OF LAW AND ORDER
GOP.
I NEVER HEARD ANYONE TALK ABOUT
REPUBLICAN'S FEELINGS.
THE PRESIDENT FELT LIKE INQUIRY
WAS NOT JUST.
THE PRESIDENT FELT LIKE HE WAS
UNDER SIEGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE WHOLE
THING WITH FEELINGS CAME IN.
NEIL: TALK ABOUT BOB MUELLER'S
FEELINGS?
WOULD HE, IF HE WAS STRONGLY
FEELING THESE OBSTRUCTION ISSUES
THAT CAME UP, 10 TO DOZEN OF
THEM WOULDN'T HE FEEL JUST AS
STRONGLY IN HIS OWN FEELINGS TO
SAY THESE ARE INDICTABLE?
THESE ARE LEGAL CHALLENGES THAT
MUST BE ADDRESSED?
>> AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE
REACTION WHEN ATTORNEY GENERAL
HOLDER WENT BEFORE THE TREY
GOWDY'S AND JASON CHAFE GETS OF
WORLD SAID PRESIDENT OBAMA FEELS
LIKE THIS IS NOT AN HONEST
ACCUSATION.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER IT.
PEOPLE WOULD LOSE THEIR MINDS.
IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO SAY
PRESIDENT CAN CHOOSE TO FIRE
SOMEONE ACCUSATIONS ARE BEING
INVESTIGATED HE FEELS ARE
DISHONEST.
THAT IS NOT HOW THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM WORKS.
TO JUSTIFY FIRING SOMEONE
BECAUSE OF SOMEONE'S FEELINGS
THAT IS NOT THE GOP I GREW UP
WITH.
NEIL: TO JUSTIFY FIRING THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL BECAUSE HE
ENDED UP RELEASING A REPORT
LATER THAT MANY WANTED AND
MISCHARACTERIZED THEY SAY
MISCHARACTERIZED IS THAT WHERE
HIS --
>> IT IS CLEAR TO ME THE FOUR
PAGE LETTER WAS DRIVEN BY THE
WHITE HOUSE.
SOME OF THE WORDING IN THERE IS
SO TORTURED.
NEIL: YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT?
>> I DON'T THINK ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR WOULD PUT IN THE
PHRASE COOPERATION IS DEFINED
TACIT OR EXPRESS AGREEMENT.
MEANING UNLESS PEOPLE SAT AROUND
THE TABLE IN SPRING OF 2016,
THIS COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A
CONSPIRACY.
THAT IS EXTREMELY ODD AND HIGH
STANDARD TO TRY TO REACH TO
PROVE A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR
WHICH IS ACTUALLY BORN OUT IN
THE REPORT.
NEIL: I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME.
YOU BOTH FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT
THIS THIS IS PART OF THE DEBATE.
WHY PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LITTLE