ARIZONA.
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>>> NEXT ON SUNDAY SQUAROFF, THE PASSING OF THE TORCH.
>> HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY WITH
HONOR.
HONOR.
HONOR. HE
HONOR. HE FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.
HE FINISHED THE RACE.
HE KEPT THE FAITH.
>> JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
PICK THE BEST POSSIBLE PERSON
REGARDLESS OF POLITICS.
>> SENATOR KYL IS PREPARED TO
HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
>> THE GOVERNOR ASKED FOR
MYSELF.
MYSELF.
MYSELF. AND BECAUSE I'M PUTTING MY
COUNTRY FIRST JUST AS THIS
SEAT'S PREVIOUS OCCUPANT DID
EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR MORE THAN
30 YEARS.
30 YEARS.
30 YEARS. >> CONGRATULATIONS, SENATOR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME TO SUNDAY SQUAROFF.
I'M BRAHM RESNIK.
WHAT WAS GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY
THINKING TWO DAYS AFTER SENATOR
JOHN McCAIN WAS BURIED, HE
APPOINTED FORMER SENATOR JON KYL
TO TAKE THE SEAT AS A TEMP ONLY
UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE'LL ALSO ASK WHOM DUCEY HAS IN
MIND FOR THE SEAT AS KYL DOES
STEP DOWN AT THE END OF THE
YEAR.
YEAR.
YEAR. THEN WHAT ARIZONA'S HISTORIC
VOTER TURNOUT IN THIS PRIMARY
MEANS FOR THE FALL.
AND THE INVEST IN ED BALLOT
MEASURE IS DEAD.
WILL THE STATE SUPREME COURT
JUSTICES PAY FOR THEIR DECISION.
JOINING US THIS MORNING ON THE
LEFT, POLITICAL ANALYST CHRIS
HERSTEN AND POLITICAL CONSULTANT
CHRIS BAKER.
CHRIS BAKER. GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH.
SO, HIS APPOINTMENT WAS WIDELY
PRAISED INCLUDING BY JOHN
McCAIN'S WINDOW.
McCAIN'S WINDOW. WHY DID THE GOVERNOR APPOINT A
TEMP FOR THE JOB.
CHRIS BAKER, I'LL GO TO YOU?
>> I THINK IT WAS A SAFE PICK.
GOVERNOR DUCEY IS IN THE MIDDLE
OF AN ELECTION.
HE WANTED A SAFE CONSERVATIVE
PICK THAT WOULD BE AS
UNCONTROVERSIAL AS POSSIBLE.
>> BUT HE'S GOT TO MAKE ANOTHER
APPOINTMENT IN 2018.
DOESN'T THIS THROW SO MANY
THINGS UP IN THE AIR?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I'VE KNOWN JON KYL FOR 35 YEARS.
HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY, BRILLIANT.
BUT THIS WAS -- THIS IS A BAD
APPOINTMENT.
APPOINTMENT. I MEAN,.
I MEAN,.
I MEAN,. >> WHY?
>> WHY?
>> WHY? >> BECAUSE WE HAD JUST WATCHED
THE UNBELIEVABLE FUNERAL
AND MEMORIALS REGARDING JOHN
McCAIN.
McCAIN.
McCAIN. IT'S HIS SEAT.
IT'S WHO THE VOTERS VOTED FOR.
THE JOHN McCAIN LEGACY IS
CRITICAL TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. I AGREE WITH GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATE DAVID GARCIA WHO SAID
VERY BLUNTLY, I WOULD OFFER IT
TO CINDY McCAIN, AND IF SHE
DIDN'T WANT IT, I'D GIVE IT TO
GRANT WOODS, WHO WE KNOW WOULD
WANT IT.
WANT IT.
WANT IT. THOSE ARE THE TWO REPUBLICANS WE
KNOW WOULD MAINTAIN HIS LEGACY.
THIS WAS TO PLACATE DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP.
TRUMP. HE'S THERE FOR ONE REASON, AS
YOU SAID, HE'S A TEMP.
CHYME IS THERE FOR ONE REASON TO
VOTE FOR KAVANAUGH.
THAT'S WHAT'S CONSUMED DONALD
TRUMP IT.
TRUMP IT.
TRUMP IT. >> GETS THAT JOB DONE.
AND THEN AS YOU SAID, I AGREE,
IT'S A SAFE PICK WITH REGARDS TO
THE MEDIA.
THE MEDIA. THEY'LL FAWN ALL OVER THE FORMER
U.S. SENATOR.
U.S. SENATOR. BUT TO GIVE IT TO HIM, AND HE
DOESN'T EVEN AGREE TO SERVE MORE
THAN A FEW MONTHS IS
PREPOSTEROUS.
PREPOSTEROUS. >> I'M POLITE, SO I'M GOING TO
INTERRUPT THERE.
INTERRUPT THERE. BUT, I THINK YOU'RE SELLING
SENATOR KYL SHORT.
WHEN YOU BREAK IT ALL DOWN, HE
IS THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR
THE SEAT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE REALITY IS IT IS NOT
ABOUT -- IT'S NOT McCAIN'S SEAT,
IT'S ARIZONA'S SEAT.
AND GOVERNOR DUCEY PICKED THE
PERSON THAT IS PROBABLY MOST
QUALIFIED, MOST READY TO HIT THE
GROUND RUNNING, AND OVERALL WAS
A GOOD PICK.
>> WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO FOR THE
NEXT MONTH?
NEXT MONTH? >> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. AND THAT'S MY QUESTION BECAUSE
HE'S ONLY -- THE SENATOR'S ONLY
THREE, FOUR WEEKS.
THAT'S NOT DUCEY'S PROBLEM.
>> HE WAS DONALD TRUMP'S COACH
FOR JON KYL, LED HIM AROUND ALL.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT HE WAS.
>> AND NOW WE CAN STEP IN AND
VOTE FOR THE GUY.
IT'S A BIZARRE LOBBYIST.
>> BUT WOULD ANY REPUBLICAN NOT
VOTE FOR HIM?
LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S A RED HERON.
>> BRETT WOODS MAY NOT HAVE
VOTED FOR HIM.
>> HE'S NOT REALLY A REPUBLICAN.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WHICH IS WHY DOUG DUCEY HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK A TRUMP
REPUBLICAN OR -- A TRUMP
REPUBLICAN WHO WAS A SLAM DUNK
FOR KAVANAUGH.
FOR KAVANAUGH. >> THAT IS INSANE.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. LET'S GET OFF MOUNT EVEREST
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. BACK DOWN TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
HE'S ONLY GOING TO BE IN SESSION
THREE, FOUR WEEKS.
>> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> IS THERE A CHANCE, THOUGH, IF
DEMOCRATS TAKE THE HOUSE, THERE
COULD BE A VOTE BY A LAME DUCK
CONGRESS ON KILLING OBAMACARE
WHERE KYL MIGHT HAVE TO CAST A
VOTE?
VOTE?
VOTE? >>
VOTE? >> THAT'S VERY MUCH TRUE.
HE MIGHT HAVE TO CAST THE VOTE.
AND, LOOK, AND HE WOULD VOTE TO
DO AWAY WITH OBAMACARE AND JON
KYL, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, JOHN
McCAIN'S ALREADY VOTE ODD THAT
ISSUE.
ISSUE.
ISSUE. THE McCAIN LEGACY WOULD BE LOST.
>> OF COURSE JON KYL WOULD GET
RID OF OBAMACARE.
>> BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNOR
WANTS.
WANTS.
WANTS. >>
WANTS. >> IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHAT
THE GOVERNOR WANTS.
IT'S A CONSERVATIVE STATE.
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT
FOR JOHN McCAIN, BUT IT'S NOT
JOHN McCAIN'S SEAT.
IT'S ARIZONA'S SEAT.
>> WHAT WE HAVE NEAR IS
REPRESENTING THAT SIDE, WE HAVE
JUST WHAT I SAID EARLIER.
IT WAS A CHOICE BETWEEN
MAINTAINING THE JOHN McCAIN
ANTI-OBAMACARE VOTE OR LOOKING
AT ISSUES DIFFERENTLY OR A SLAM
DUNK FOR DONALD TRUMP.
>> JON KYL -- OKAY.
I THINK WE'VE LITIGATED THIS.
THIS IS AS FAR AS WE'RE GOING TO
GO.
GO.
GO. OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. WHO'S ON THE SHORT LIST TO TAKE
OVER FOR KYL AND, YOU KNOW, HOLD
THE SEAT UNTIL THE 2020 GENERAL
ELECTION OR SPECIAL ELECTION?
>> THERE'S TWO PEOPLE ON THE
SHORT LIST.
SHORT LIST. IF McSALLY LOSES THE SENATE RACE
TO CINEMA, AND I HOPE SHE DOES,
HE COULD EASILY TURN RIGHT
AROUND AND APPOINT McSALLY TO
THE SENATE SEAT.
OR IF HE LOSES, IF DUCEY LOSES
TO GARCIA, AS I HOPE HE DOES, HE
COULD APPOINT HIMSELF TO THE --
>> YOU SAID OVER AND OVER NOT
HE'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
OKAY, CHRIS, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T
THINK IT'LL BE MARTHA McSALLY.
I DO THINK SHE WILL WIN IN
NOVEMBER, BUT I DON'T THINK SHE
WOULD BE APPOINTED TO THE SEAT.
LOOK, IT'S COMPLETELY UP IF THE
AIR.
AIR.
AIR. ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU WHO IS
GOING TO BE THE NEXT APPOINTMENT
IS SPECULATING, PURELY
SPECULATING.
SPECULATING. >> CHIEF OF STAFF KIRK ADAMS IS
GETTING A LOT OF -- KIRK'S
GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION,
TRUE.
TRUE.
TRUE. --
TRUE. -- BUT MY GUESS.
.
.
. >>
. >> WHY
. >> WHY DOES DUCEY GET TWO BITES
OF THE APPLE?
>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, KYL MADE
VERY CLEAR WHAT HIS POSITION
WAS.
WAS.
WAS. BUT,
WAS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE KIRK
ADAMS.
ADAMS.
ADAMS. IT
ADAMS. IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF A
HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, MATT SALMON,
DAVID SCHLEICHERT.
DAVID SCHLEICHERT. I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'VE
REACHED THAT POINT OF DECIDING.
>> TOLD ME HE'S GOING TO DECIDE
BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
BUT SAYS HE'S GOING TO RUN AS A
DEMOCRAT OR INDEPENDENT.
CONGRESSMAN DIEGO.
CONGRESSMAN DIEGO. WILL EITHER OF THEM BE ON THE
BALLOT IN NOVEMBER 2020?
>> WE SHOULD ONLY BE SO LUCKY TO
HAVE GIEGO RUNNING ON THE BALLOT
IN