ORGANIZATION IS TAKING STEPS TO
REFORM THE SYSTEM.
THIS, OF COURSE, NOT THE ONLY
STUNNING REVELATION OF FBI BIAS
THIS WEEK.
OUR NEXT GUESTS TESTIFIED IN AN
EXPLOSIVE HEARING ABOUT THE
BUREAU’S ALLEGED REAL CASE
JENS -- RETALIATION AGAINST
THEIR OWN AGENTS.
>> IT WAS MY DREAM JOB.
MY WHISTLING WAS APOLITICAL IN
THE SPIRIT OF UPHOLDING MY OATH.
THE FBI CYNICALLY ELECTED THE
ATTACK THE MESSENGER.
>> THE FBI WILL CRUSH YOU, THIS
GOVERNMENT WILL CRUSH YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY.
IF YOU TRY TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH
ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING
THAT ARE WRONG.
AND WE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF THAT.
WILL: WHISTLEBLOWERS STEVE AND
GARRETT BOTH JOINS -- JOIN US
NOW.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY EARLIER THIS WEEKMENT
STEVE, DURING YOUR TESTIMONY YOU
WERE ASKED ABOUT BY CONGRESSMAN
MATT GAETZ, YOU TALKED ABOUT
SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE
ASSIGNED TO DO AS AN FBI AGENT
INCLUDING TAKING DOWN LICENSE
PLATES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL BOARD
MEETINGS.
YOU HEAR THIS REPORT ABOUT FISA
WARRANTS AND SPYING ON AMERICAN
CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO WERE
PRESENT JANUARY 6TH.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT
WHAT THE ACTIVITIES ARE GOING ON
AT THE FBI?
>> I THINK THE FBI HAS SORT OF
EVOLVED FROM WHAT WE EXPECT IT
TO BE, WHICH IS FEDERAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT, AND AFTER 9/11 WHEN
THE NATIONAL SECURITY BRANCH WAS
GROWN EXPONENTIALLY, THE FBI IS
NOW ESSENTIALLY INVOLVED INTO A
DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT
CAPABILITY.
WHICH IS WHAT I EXPRESSED IN THE
HEARING X. THAT’S A PROBLEM,
BECAUSE THE NATURE OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIONS ARE
LINEAR, THEY HAVE A START AND AN
END, AND THE NATURE OF
INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS ARE
CIRCULAR, THEY JUST GAIN MORE
INTELLIGENCE TO GAIN MORE
INTELLIGENCE, AND THEY NEVER
END.
WILL: WHAT A GREAT WAY TO PUT
THAT INTO CON EDUCATE.
GARRETT, WE HEARD FROM YOUR
TESTIMONY, HIGHLY MOTIONAL AND
COMPELLING, I’M CURIOUS FROM
YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WE TALKED
ABOUT YOUR TESTIMONY, YOUR LIFE,
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WERE
ESSENTIALLY PUT ON SUSPENSION
RIGHT AFTER BEING TRANSFERRED
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LEFT
HOMELESS RIGHT WHEN YOU HAD A
BABY BEING BORN.
WHAT WAS THE TIPPING POINT FOR
YOU, GARRETT, WHEN YOU DECIDED
THOUGH, HEY, I NEED TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE
FBI?
IF.
>> I DON’T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY
TIPPING POINT THAT I CAN REACH
TO, BUT IT WAS MORE A SUMMATION
OF THINGS THAT HAD BEEN ADDING
UP AND JUST OVER AND OVER AGAIN
I SAYING IN THIS DOESN’T SEEM
RIGHT, THIS ISN’T WHAT I WAS
TALKINGS IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
COURSES -- TAUGHT IN
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW COURSES OR
THIS ISN’T HOW YOU IMPLEMENT
PEOPLE’S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
AND BALANCE THOSE THE RIGHTS
WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO
THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
SO IT WAS MORE A SUMMATION OF
THINGS THAT IT WAS REPETITIVE
THE INSIDE THE FBI WHERE IT WAS
LIKE THIS SEEMS WRONG.
THIS SEEMS WRONG, THAT SEEMS
WRONG, SO IT GOT TO A POINT
WHERE I JUST COULDN’T SIT BACK
ANYMORE AND HAD TO JUST START
EXPOSING SOME OF THE NEFARIOUS
THINGS THAT THE FBI WAS DOING.
WILL: YEAH, GARRETT, I KNOW YOU
TESTIFIED IT TO THIS WEAK, YOUR
LIFE HAS BEEN TOTALLY TURNED
UPSIDE DOWN AS A RESULT OF YOUR
CHOICE TO SPEAK.
>> THAT’S CORRECT, IT HAS BEEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I’LL REITERATE, I
MADE MY OATH TO THIS COUNTRY,
AND I’M GOING TO STAND BY THAT
OATH NO MATTER WHAT THE COST.
THAT’S ALL WE CAN CO, AND I WANT
TO URGE EVERY AMERICAN TO STAND
BY THAT OATH.
WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND
A DUTY TO THIS NATION AND TO
EACH OTHER, AND WE’RE THE ONES
WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING
SURE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR
COUNTRY RUNS THE WAY IT’S
SUPPOSED TO RUN.
WILL: GARRETT, WE HEARD YOUR
TESTIMONY WHEN YOU SAID IF YOU
SPEAK OUT, BE READY, BECAUSE THE
FBI WILL CRUSH YOU.
STEVE, THERE WAS AN INTERESTING
MOMENT WITH YOU AND CONGRESSMAN
DAN GOLDMAN.
HE ACTUALLY ASKED ALL OF YOU
GUYS ABOUT TAKING MONEY FROM
CARB A PA EL THE, DONATIONS FROM
KASH PATEL WHO WORKED WITH
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.
GOLDMAN WAS SUGGESTING TO YOU,
STEVE, THAT YOU BASICALLY ARE ON
THE TAKE, THAT YOU ARE A
POLITICAL OPERATIVE FOR TAKING
THAT DONATION.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION?
>> WELL, I’LL PUT MY PATRIOTIC
BONA FIDES UP AGAINST
CONGRESSMAN GOLDMAN ANY DAY OF
WEEK.
I WAS AN UNPAID FBI-SUSPENDED
WHISTLEBLOWER, AND I WAS NOT
PROUD TO ACCEPT A CHARITABLE
DONATION, BUT I WAS EARNLY
FORCED TO DO -- CERTAINLY FORCED
TO DO SO.
THIS IS ONE OF THINGS THE FBI
DOES TO FORCE AND PUNISH
WHISTLEBLOWERS TO LEAVE.
AND EVEN WITH DEBBIE WASSERMAN
SCHULTZ ACCUSED ME OF WRITING A
BOOK, I DIDN’T ACCEPT AN
ADVANCE, AND I TOLD MY PUBLISHER
I DIDN’T EXPECT TO MAKE A SINGLE
CENT.
I JUST WANT THE INFORMATION
TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
WILL: IT’S A LOT HARDER WHEN YOU
DON’T INHERIT MILLIONS AS AN
HEIR OF LEVI STRAUSS.
I NEED DO YOU BOTH ONE QUICK
QUESTION AND THAT IS, YOU TWO
ARE OUTSTANDING GENTLEMEN.
WHY ARE THERE NOT MORE?
ARE THERE MORE INSIDE THE FBI?
ARE THERE MORE PEOPLE WHO FEEL
LIKE BOTH OF YOU?
QUICKLY TO YOU, STEVE, AND THEN
TO YOU, GARRETT.
>> I THINK THERE ARE, AND THE
WAY THAT THIS HEARING WENT AND
THE WAY THAT GARRETT AND MARCUS
AND I WERE ABLE TO COMPORT
OURSELVES AGAINST THAT THAT FIRE
ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE IS GOING
TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS.
WILL: YEAH.
GARRETT, DO A LOT OF PEOPLE
SHARE YOUR BELIEFS AND
OBSERVATION ISES ABOUT THE FBI?
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DO
SHARE OUR BELIEFS AND
CONVICTIONS, I THINK THEY JUST
AREN’T AT THE POINT THAT STEVE
AND I AND OTHERS HAVE GOTTEN TO
OR THEY’RE TOO AFRAID, LIKE WE
DISCUSSED IN OUR TESTIMONY.
THEY KNOW, THEY’VE SEEN OUR
EXAMPLE THAT WE WILL BE CRUSHED.
WILL: STEVE FRIEND, GARRETT TO