AGAINST THEIR HOST IN BEIJING.
>> John: WE WILL SOON FIND OUT.
THANKS.
>> Sandra: ENES KANTER FREEDOM,
CENTER FOR THE BOSTON
POLITICS -- SORRY, CELTICS.
POLITICS ON THE BRAIN.
YOU HAVE JOINED US BEFORE AND
ARE RELENTLESS FOR YOU SPEAKING
OUT.
POLITICS IS ON THE BRAIN, I WAS
THINKING ABOUT NANCY PELOSI AND
SHE IS DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS
MESSAGE.
CAN WE ROLL THIS, FROM EARLIER
THIS MORNING.
>> I WISH THE ATHLETES WELL, I
DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEM TO SPEAK
OUT AGAINST THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT THERE BECAUSE I FEAR
FOR THEIR SAFETY IF THEY DO.
REMOVE ALL DOUBT ABOUT WHY I
SAID THEY SHOULDN’T SPEAK OUT,
BECAUSE I FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY.
I HOPE THEY ARE SAFE
ATHLETICALLY, POLITICALLY AND
EVERY OTHER WAY.
>> Sandra: TO THAT YOU SAY WHAT?
>> SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY
AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A HUGE
PLATFORM, THERE ARE SO MANY, YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE OUT THERE,
FOLLOWERS, ESPECIALLY YOUNG
GENERATIONS, I FEEL LIKE WHEN
THEY SEE WRONG, THEY HAVE TO
SPEAK UP, SAY SOMETHING, AND YOU
KNOW, THEY CANNOT JUST KEEP
THEIR MOUTH SHUT, AND JUST BE A
PART OF THE PROPAGANDA, YOU KNOW
AND SO I FEEL THIS IS SOMETHING
WRONG.
I ENCOURAGE THEM TO SAY
SOMETHING, SO CHANGE CAN COME.
>> John: WE WERE TALKING EARLIER
ABOUT THE CORPORATE SPONSORS,
SEEM TO BE TURNING A BLIND EYE
TO THE GENOCIDE AGAINST THE
UYGHUR POPULATION, TO CONTINUE
TO SPONSOR THE OLYMPIC GAMES.
"TIME" MAGAZINE PUT IT THIS WAY,
OLYMPIC SPONSORS ARE BANKING ON
PUBLIC INDIFFERENCE TO CHINAS’S
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
>> NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT’S
HAPPENING TO THE UYGHURS, OK.
YOU BRING IT UP BECAUSE YOU --
>> WHAT?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOBODY CARES?
>> THE REST OF US DON’T CARE.
>> YOU REALLY DON’T CARE?
WAIT, YOU PERSONALLY DON’T CARE?
>> A HARD UGLY TRUTH.
YES, IT IS BELOW MY LINE.
>> HIS COMMENTS WERE
REPREHENSIBLE.
WAS HE SPEAKING AN INCONVENIENT
TRUTH.
FOR MANY, INCLUDING IN THE
BIGGEST COMPANIES DON’T CARE
EITHER?
>> I MEAN, IT’S JUST SHAME,
SHAME ON THEM FOR NOT PUTTING IT
OVER MONEY.
I NEED TO CALL OUT THE COMPANIES
LIKE SPONSORS LIKE AIRBNB,
COCA-COLA, INTEL, P AND G, VISA,
BUT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW,
THEY KNOW THEY CARED TOO MUCH
ABOUT THEIR MONEY AND BUSINESS
AND IT HAS GONE ON, AND
ESPECIALLY THE WARRIORS OWNER
DISGUSTING.
WHEN I SAW THAT VIDEO,
DISAPPOINTED.
BUT THE CRAZY THING IS, I SAW
HIS APOLOGY BUT DID NOT SAY A
WORD ABOUT THE UYGHURS OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY
KNOW T THE NBA OR WARRIORS OR
HIMSELF WILL LOSE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS.
IT’S A SHAME BUT I FEEL LIKE I
NEED TO HOLD THE PEOPLE,
CORPORATE SPONSORS OR OWNERS AND
ASSOCIATIONS ACCOUNTABLE, AND
IT’S A SHAME.
IT’S A SHAME, LIKE I SAID, FOR
NOT PUTTING THAT OVER MONEY.
>> Sandra: LISTENING TO YOU NOW
AND SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE, DO YOU
FEAR RETALIATION?
>> I MEAN, SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT.
THERE ARE SO MANY, YOU KNOW,
ATHLETES, NOT JUST ATHLETES, YOU
KNOW, ACTORS, SINGERS, RAPPERS,
PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLATFORMS, YOU
KNOW, ARE REMAINING SILENT WHEN
IT COMES TO CHINA BECAUSE WHEN
YOU SEE RIGHT NOW WHAT’S
HAPPENED, THE BRUTALITY, MASS
ARREST, EXECUTION, LABOR CAMPS,
GENOCIDE, PERIOD.
THEY ARE REMAINING SILENT AND
IT’S DISGUSTING.
TO ME IT’S BIGGER THAN
BASKETBALL, BIGGER THAN SPORTS,
BIGGER THAN THE NBA, I WILL BE
THE VOICE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO
DO NOT HAVE A VOICE.
>> John: AND SEEMS TO BE A SENSE
THE BIG CORPORATE SPONSORS PICK
AND CHOOSE WHEN THEY WILL SPEAK
OUT AGAINST.
COKE COLA SPOKE OUT LOUDLY OF
VOTING IN GEORGIA, BUT SILENT IN
BEIJING.
LISTEN TO THIS AT A RECENT
SENATE HEARING.
>> CAN YOU T TELL ME WHY
COCA-COLA DOESN’T HAVE A SAY
WHETHER IT SPONSORED THE
GENOCIDE OLYMPICS NEXT YEAR BUT
DOES HAVE A SAY IN THE GEORGIA
ELECTION LAWS?
>> WE DO NOT HAVE A STAY IN THE
SELECTION OF THE HOST CITY NOR
ON WHETHER AN OLYMPICS IS
POSTPONED OR RELOCATED.
>> SO YOU DON’T, BUT YOU CAN
JUST MAKE A STATEMENT.
YOUR C.E.O. COULD SADDLE UP THE
SAME MORAL HIGH HORSE HE GOT ON
WHEN GEORGIA PASSED THE ELECTION
LAW --
>> MOST ENGAGED ON POLICY ISSUES
HERE AT HOME BUT CLEAR IN OUR
RESPECT TO HUMAN RIGHTS
GLOBALLY.
>> John: HE SAID WE DO IN THE
HAVE A SELECTION IN THE HOST
CITY OR WHETHER OLYMPICS ARE
POSTPONED OR RELOCATED.
BUT IF THE I.O.C. CHOOSES A CITY
IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS A TERRIBLE
HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD, CAN’T YOU
AS A CORPORATION SAY YOU KNOW
WHAT, WE DON’T WANT ANY PART OF
THIS?
>> LET ME MAKE THIS VERY, VERY
CLEAR TO THE PEOPLE IN NORTH
AMERICA.
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT HUMAN
RIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
THEY CARE ABOUT MONEY AND THEY
CARE ABOUT BUSINESS.
SHAME ON THEM, THEY ARE
ORGANIZING THE GAMES IN A
COUNTRY LIKE CHINA WITH A
GENOCIDE HAPPENING.
BUT BIGGEST SPONSOR, NIKE, I AM
ACTUALLY IN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO
AMERICA, THE NIKE STANDS FOR
BLACK LIVES MATTER, LATINO
COMMUNITY, LGBTQ COMMUNITY,
ASIAN HATE, BUT WITH CHINA THEY
ARE SILENT.
HYPOCRISY, I CANNOT KEEP MY
MOUTH SHUT, I NEED TO HOLD THE
PEOPLE, CORPORATE SPONSORS,
ASSOCIATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS,
ACCOUNTABLE AND EXPOSE THEM AS
MUCH AS I CAN.
>> Sandra: AT THE END OF THIS
YOU HAVE TO FEEL FOR THE
ATHLETES, JUST LISTENING TO
CAITLYN JENNER LAST HOUR, SHE
KNOWS FIRSTHAND WHAT IT’S LIKE
TO WORK YOUR WAY TO BE AN
OLYMPIC ATHLETE DAY AND NIGHT,
HOUR BY HOUR.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU EAT,
DRINK, SLEEP, GOES INTO WHAT YOU
ARE ABOUT TO PERFORM AND THERE
IS THIS CLOUD OVER THESE
OLYMPICS.
>> YOU KNOW, MY LAST MESSAGE TO
THE ATHLETES, ALL THE GOLD
MEDALS IN THE WORLD IS NOT MORE
IMPORTANT THAN YOUR MORALES,
YOUR PRINCIPLES AND VALUES.
I UNDERSTAND YOU WORKED HARD
YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO GET TO THIS
POINT.
BUT THE OTHER POINT, THINK IF
YOUR MOTHER, YOUR WIFE, YOUR
SISTER, YOUR DAUGHTER WAS IN
CONCENTRATION CAMP TORTURED AND
RAPED EVERY DAY.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE
PEOPLE.
>> John: WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT,
THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS LINKED
WITH CHINA, AND MUCH OF WHAT
THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN
TERMS OF THEIR MILITARY BUILD-UP
AND DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE
AMERICA IS THE CHINESE PIGGY
BANK.
BUT OTHER PLACES TO GET THE
GOODS THAT ARE EXPORTED TO THE
COUNTRY.
TIME FOR A DIVORCE?
>> WHAT I STARTED TO DO, WHEN I
PICK UP SOMETHING OR SEE MADE IN
CHINA, I PUT IT BACK, YOU KNOW.
I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, THE BEST,
ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN GET MADE
IN AMERICA, IS AN AMERICAN, AS A
CITIZEN, I FEEL WE NEED TO
SUPPORT OUR COUNTRY AND IT IS
TIME FOR A DIVORCE AND WE NEED
TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, AND I
HOPE, YOU KNOW, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION WILL SAY
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
>> Sandra: I DON’T KNOW, DO YOU
THINK THE SPONSORS WILL CHANGE,
ANYTHING WILL COME OF THIS?
THEY HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED BY
PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
>> WE JUST HAVE TO PUSH THROUGH
IT, YOU KNOW.
AND MAKE PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE.
THAT’S THE SOLUTION, BUT IT IS
WHAT IT IS, I FEEL LIKE THE MORE
BRAVE PEOPLE WILL COME OUT AND
SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, THIS IS
DISGUSTING AND WE NEED TO STOP
IT.
>> Sandra: ENES KANTER FREEDOM,
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> John: AS A PERSON WHO BECAME