hey guys jay here welcome to eons of battle
recasting let's talk about it
and at the end of the video we'll be showing off this week's eob complete community miniatures
so if you don't know recasting is a method of counterfeit by someone without permission to do so
in our hobby of tabletop miniatures it typically means that the recaster bought one original
something then dumped it in silicon to make a mold and started selling copies for significantly
cheaper than the original now this is universally condemned when we're talking about little
companies getting ripped off but the conversation takes on a much different light when we look at
the big guys and there's really only one in the room games workshop printed plainly on the website
is games workshop's thoughts on recasting and to quote from their intellectual property policy
copyrights this is the exclusive right to produce copies of our creations it covers
our miniatures artwork books logos website images and text contents of white dwarf etc
it not only covers exact copies but also anything which copies a significant part
typically the most important and unique features non-commercial recasting and 3d printing do
not cast or scan any material based on games workshop's intellectual property reproduction for
personal use is not an automatic exemption from copyright protection in many territories worldwide
likewise do not produce or distribute designs which substantially copy games workshop's products
so that's recasting and that's games workshop's official policy on it those are the facts but
recasts are out there and what are we gonna do about that recasts aren't hard to find
they're hidden in plain sight on ebay if you see something that's priced way too good to be true
particularly if it's sold from china or russia it's 99.99 percent of the time
a recast now before we take a deep dive into the weeds of legality morality and the tangled web
that is recasting i want to touch on what is not recasting and that is third-party bits and models
there are tons of little companies out there that specialize in alternatives and upgrades for the
more popular games i don't necessarily want to call them out in this video on recasting but they
are easy to find and offer products that might be similar to something offered by the big guys
but it's not the same thing exactly usually they offer extra legs a cool hero lookalike or some
custom heraldry to sprinkle onto your legit models these guys are awesome still probably less than
bulletproof in terms of legality but they keep their heads down their nose is clean and for the
most part they get away with it so to really share my feelings on the matter pull up a chair and let
me tell you my experience with recasting i love lego lego might be my other warhammer 40k i'm not
a nut who has millions of bricks and a scale model of a city in my basement yet but i still love
those little bricks and i collect a few sets that catch my eye and i spend my free evenings playing
around in stud dot io studio a free lego building app not sponsored lego famously does not make many
guns and certainly not realistic ones and that's where will chapman comes in with his little
company brick arms his work is amazing he produces lego compatible weapons made in the same way and
mirroring the design styles of lego this is a one-man operation and he's able to do all this and
only charges a dollar per weapon his passion and craftsmanship behind the product is outstanding
then this little puke shows up this video is an unboxing and promotion of china recast brick arms
the youtuber showed 55,000 people how cheap you can get rip-offs from china he even goes so far
as to link the aliexpress page where people can buy 500 counterfeit brick arms for 10 us dollars
and the comments made me even sadder they thank him for showing how overpriced real
brick arms are and what a rip off chapman is for overcharging for his lego compatible weapons
of course china can make it cheaper but you know what china doesn't do they don't spend years on
forums figuring out what products people want they don't have booths at conventions
reach out to other creators make freebies and swag post on facebook and instagram and just
all around be a valuable member of the community buying recasts sucks it's not right don't ever
buy recasts from the little guys but does this apply to games workshop and your counterfeits
games workshop is not one guy making a niche product but isn't it just the same thing on a
bigger scale sure games workshop is big and can handle a certain amount of loss due to recasts
but realistically we don't know what impact recasting has big means more employees people
need to get paid get laid and make lemonade and is it kind of the dream to work for games workshop
wouldn't it be sweet to get paid a good wage for doing it some people justify buying the rip off
games workshop by saying it might be unethical but games workshop was unethical first creating
artificial scarcity and charging too high of prices they reap what they sow they deserve it
i would argue that two wrongs don't make a right if you disagree with game's workshop it doesn't
make buying a counterfeit okay and the limited edition models can sting when you miss out but
it's just a marketing tool artificial scarcity is a bad thing but games workshop selling limited
numbers of christmas themed grats or a special primaris lieutenant isn't a crime and regarding
the prices they aren't criminal just because you don't like them buying game stroke shot models is
the most unnecessary thing in the world it's not life-saving medicine or desperately needed food
it's toys well games workshop mistreats its fans they are exploitative and ungrateful why would i
want to help them out games workshop is fine you guys are just being mean games workshop is the big
boy on the playground and because of that they are the punching bag for dissatisfied hobbyists
i don't believe games workshop doesn't care they make new models practically weekly and
they have every model professionally painted and photographed and they have multiple different game
systems to appeal to a wide audience the miniature wargaming field is not the most lucrative out
there not by a long shot and gamesworkshop is a really small company in the grand scheme of things
there's a real and obvious passion at the heart of games workshop and if you don't see it i think
you're being cynical if this isn't the golden age of games workshop then what is metal blisters
and no facebook page if i didn't buy recasts i couldn't be part of the hobby i can't afford it
so buying recast didn't hurt the company because i wouldn't have bought from them in the first place
the models are expensive and it's rough if you really think this hobby looks like fun
and you can't afford it there's a lot of things i can't afford that look like fun games workshop
is not the only game out there and there are some budget-friendly alternatives but if it has to be a
games workshop game warhammer underworld is cheap and has the most beautiful minis ever if everyone
bought recast there'd be no more games workshop and without them no hobby you know it's something
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let's get back to the discussion now at this point it absolutely sounds like i'm defending game's
workshop but that really isn't my intention i don't agree with everything games workshop does i
think their prices are too high i think they could be more transparent in their release schedule so
it doesn't feel like the space marine show all the time and find cast has improved over the years and
has gotten fine recently but some models are still unacceptable looking at you immotec the stormlord
and i don't know what's going on with forge world anymore they're dropping products left and right
they still charge sometimes double when plastic has surpassed resonant quality
and the only thing that's proprietary to them is 30k and even that seems to be slowing down
hey forge world is everything all right you doing okay honey but if i disagree with them
sometimes the move isn't to retaliate this isn't a war it's a hobby i just want to paint relax and
spend time with friends when it's safe to do so again and being salty doesn't help anything in
this discussion the big word that's always thrown around is morality but i'm not an ethics professor
and that's a rabbit hole we would never come out of it's not worth discussing here everyone has
to decide for themselves how they feel about theft for me the right decision is if the product i want
is more than i'm willing to pay i just don't get to have it whatever some company charges
and what i think about it doesn't give me the right to pay a parasites to get it for less and
parasite is absolutely the right word recasters are a leech living off the product and demand
that they had no part in generating they were feeding off the success of their host who worked
hard to give us what we like russian recasters are not coming up with the next new age of sigmar army
if you can't handle another corporate overlord and i understand the feeling
sometimes when you think about the big picture it can be suffocating
so what do you do if games workshop or forge world is too expensive or too yucky to deal with anymore
you have to get out of the cycle the only real way to stick it to game's workshop is to play
something else there are so many different games out there
malifaux war machine and hordes drop zone commander infinity star wars legion a song
of ice and fire tabletop miniatures game frost grave guild ball test of honor x-wing
and literally a hundred more all of these games are awesome and i'll give you those warm fuzzy
feelings that 40k and aj sigmar gave you better yet you can buy from your friendly local game
store for bonus and brownie points if we all try out some new stuff maybe games workshop will have
some real competition games trickshot might even have to lower their prices the sunk cost fallacy
is what makes this so hard the big investment of time and money is what makes it so easy to spend a
little more but that's the fallacy if you buy too much food is the solution to overeat to get your
money's worth don't overeat warhammer maybe don't start that third 40k army and instead try out star
wars legion variety is what keeps things new and sexy sometimes what we really need to do is take a
step back and examine our hobby and re-evaluate what'll bring us the relaxation entertainment
and joy that we want out of our hobbies because that's really what it's all about so
that's my piece let me know in the comments how wrong i am i want to hear it research for this
video got me fired up but now let's see what the eob complete community has been up to this week
we put out a challenge to our community to give us photos of their recently finished models to be
immortalized in the video if you want to join in the fun you can submit a before and after
photo of your painted mini to our discord server which you can find linked in the description below
or you can post to instagram with the hashtag eob complete this week i painted this plague marine
let's look and get inspired by what other folks finished this week an awesome loom boss on giant
cave squig by kai bin zija a battle tech mech by zenubaku a gaunt summoner of zeitch by david bates
a cromleck gnawzilla by of dockaflockaflame a custom sculpted bone grinder gargant by crafting
troll a hell brute by orange a grey knight inceptor by canary an imperial space marine and
a space marine gunslinger by chicky nuggs a storm cast eternal by evo steel some plague marines by
the happy heretic a skink star priest by papa john an astra militarum chimera by shrapnel some pock
walkers by pharaoh von sapphiro a sneaky little towel by xander rose a fancy stormcast eternal by
obscuro and a necron warrior of the thot dynasty by alka seltzer thanks everyone who sent in their
projects and give yourselves the biggest pat on the back for the great work you've done it's truly
an accomplishment to finish a paint job and you all should feel really proud thanks for sharing