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we've been learning more and more over the last few days about this kill this
that president obama has been personally involved in
the signing off process and we've heard about the nomination process we've heard
about uh... kind of a broad range of people that might find themselves on
this list then we've also been hearing about this idea that although kill or
capture is usually the uh... letter of the law
it seems there's only been a court as far as i know only one person actually
captured in it it seems it may be because of
how complicated it is if you actually do capture someone
then what happens we know what's going on with the colleen shake mohammed trial
and and the entire circus that can start if you if you actually end up having to
try one of these people
give me first your thoughts on
the progressive response to this which is interesting because i've been
following also
we saw
of split progressive response to the killing of osama bin laden what's your
thought on the progress of response to the killers
on the adapt being at the elective response for the killers the month
progress that has been
completely non-existent and that's one of the most ridiculous when i was
ludicrous things about this entire situation is that
of course if this were
a republican i was in office if we look back to a lot of the critique that was
uh... geared towards
the bush administration for torture for guantanamo bay
for the war in iraq
where are the progressives now why they suddenly think it's okay if uh... a
democratic president is doing it because you have to think about
the magnitude of all this really needs fracas is a really disturbing
scary
horrible
stat a cast me in the wrong direction here you have
a president's that
sits in his chambers
and she wasn't sure he is going
to execute that sounds like that dictator right that sound like a king
that does not sound like a democratically
elected president we have an entire system setup
an order for things like that
not to happen specifically
if you want to talk back live our lives near his sixteen-year-old son
specifically with
american citizens in cellular talking up a so much a last night and if you take
that into account side kill listed it's a murder list and there was no due
process granted to them
and you have is administration that society that they can't raised intern in
bend of the constitution
to their will
and yet somehow progressives
are almost completely silent united's trying to watch somebody shows on msnbc
last night
and not even touch the body they're so busy talking about
uh... mit romney and donald trump yeah and burn the risen
that nobody cares about this right will know in the defense of some progress is
that i think he'll i get voicemails and emails from people who say
he please if the progressives are coming out against this there is just not
really that progressive ray and making the army the kind of the true
progressives are very vocally and very clearly against both the assassination
of osama bin laden which that goes even further i think than adding more more
progressives for self-proclaimed progressives have a problem with the
killers
then specifically with the operation against
of some uh... osama bin laden specifically but
when we step back for a second and look at look at this more broadly
uh... what are the implications as far neither one of us are attorneys but
when we look at international law as far as assassinations
but they're not be huge problems for obama here
it would be huge from say right now in terms of you bring up yeah some of the
moderate
i think that makes more sense it would make more sense to me that he will be
more upset about this when it's violating are specific constitution
and they would be about the uh... some of the moderate whereas there is
pakistani sovereignty
uh... you know that was in question but this is the entire problem that so many
critics out there
so many legal scholars are trying to bring out the silver stepping into this
entirely new realm
of warfare which there's a very big
legal gray area because you have these drone strikes that are sometimes you
know if you wanna talk about pakistan if you want to talk about yemen
they're happening
in conjunction uh... with uh... you know with the permission
of these other governments and yet
it leads to civilian deaths uh... you know and especially this assault made in
this
all the decisions are made in this one little room
in the oval office or wherever it is in the white house a banner that the
president makes these decisions
i think that it should bring up a lot of legal issues but they keep wanting to
try to say that
well these are a lot of war these are combat zone
well before i believe in the global war on terror the entire world
into combat celia and then it's actually the okay with international ach it's
incredible how kind of distant income part metallized war and and
by eating has become in the president has a list that's almost like looking
through your baseball cards i saw one analogy where he looks indeed it was the
people
he signs often and someone else who also was presumably just sitting in a room
might use a drone controlled across the other side of the world suited to drop a
bomb it was so distant from the realities of what's happening
now it's it's a it's a very very trailing it's especially disturbing if
you think about
uh... some of the decisions that they have to make for example there's also
this revelation
in the new york times fees that
the way at the obama administration gets around
having to count as many civilian casualties is they count any male who's
of military aid you in a combat zone which actually said now is the entire
world
uh... they don't count them
as a civilian death rate they try to just throw it in and so it and at the
same time you have pieces parts of the peace where
they start to
make decisions based on well if we get this one guy and his wife in his
children just happen to be in the same place that's just collateral damage is
worth getting the kind you can see
uh... you know there's a lot of disagreement even with the advisers the
people that are surrounding the president on this when they talk about
this back kamal strategy will greatly dot than ever to outside a guy today
just like it's going to be
a new one tomorrow and this is working as a recruiting that that right i mean
you have this president come in
and try to you
fix the tarnished image of the united states after the bush administration
with one time of day
with torture
on our record but now what's happening instead is that
these trounced rights are only uh... you know proving as a propaganda tool for
johanna thought their mean that frontline did a great documentary last
night about archive in the reagan named slack
in yemen
and uh... you know they went too
the place where i am are like the sixteen-year-old son was killed by drugs
right then
they go to this
propaganda booth where i you a p is passing out all their materials and as a
giant poster there
with pictures up on my lucky
and his son
they're being used to check all the martyrs and too hot you know and to
recruit more people so growing really
hurting ourselves
the talk politics on this disprove for the last uh... thoughts on this
romney can really use this against obama right because if he does it just makes
him appear weak on national defense something which
by the way he kind of already is in danger of appearing but
but this this actually is not something that can bro brownie can almost even
really mentioned because this is kind of the republican
uh... would have done strategy
well that well you know there we go back its entire problem wire progress
speaking out
and that's because when it comes to foreign policy when it comes to war on
terror policies
uh... there's complete bipartisan
agreement on this so of course rodney can't go after the president because
uh... on this because this is exactly what republicans
when winds and now even democrats somehow
are scared to do it
because the president is is spell seeing these republican policy than it is
becoming
uh... you know a very scary
mix where there is bipartisan agreement on these things
all the time we see the same thing at home it's going to talk about our civil
liberties
and it comes to the m_p_a_a_ when it comes to passing the patriot act
is at the two parties look
exactly
and the other thing also is that uh... uh... all almost nobody can even really
uh... lewis from this because all bomb is also not really going to lose his
voters for romney because of this right i mean that's that's also not going to
happen in a way
we can have discussions about it will have criticisms from
so-called true progressives but it's it's probably not going to hurdle bomber
either from his own side nor from the republican side it's almost perfect for
obama
yeah i did question thing is that nobody really cares never talk about the
election of course i think that people care most about
is the economy and that makes sense and foreign policy does not really
necessarily win or lose
elections for president sent you know i mean the thing that i would hope is that
americans has become a little more
informs upper example watching on frontline documentary filling kacie
starr asking questions
uh... you know when the probe on administration tries to claim that we
are completely
disintegrating
alok i doubt that we're winning this war on terror i wouldn't say so if you
actually look at the results of these policies but that information isn't
readily available out there and so i just think that people need to try to
educate themselves more
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