BRIAN: WELL, WE’LL SEE IF WE
LEARN MiG IF FEW BY NOON
TOMORROW.
DAVID SPUNT, THANKS.
JOINING ME NOW, KEN BALKIN,
THANKS FOR BEING ON SET EVEN
THOUGH YOU AND YOUR WIFE JUST
WELCOMED A NEW BABY INTO THE
WORLD YESTERDAY --
>> WE DID.
A BABY GIRL.
LUCKILY, I A PACKED A SUIT WITH
A PINK TIE.
[LAUGHTER]
BRIAN: VERY GOOD.
LET’S GET INTO SOME OF DO -- THE
DETAILS.
WE MIGHT SEE THE AFFIDAVIT IN
SOME PART BY NOON IF TOMORROW,
BUT BASICALLY WHAT DAVID’S
SAYING, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT’S
GOING TO BE ALMOST WORTHLESS
FROM THE STANDPOINT OF REAL
TRANSPARENCY.
>> YEAH, WE’RE GOING TO SEE AN
AFFIDAVIT, FOR SURE.
IT’S GOING TO HAVE REDACTIONS
INCLIEWNDING WITNESSES, GRAND
JURY INFORMATION, STRATEGY,
DIRECTION, SCOPE, SOURCES AND
METHODS.
SO WE’RE GOING TO SEE THE WORDS
MAR-A-LAGO AND A LOT OF BLACK
INK SURROUNDING IT.
BRIAN: SO THAT SEEMS PROBLEMATIC
TO ME.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THE DOJ DOESN’T
WANT TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION
BECAUSE IT’S PART OF THE
INVESTIGATION, BUT WE’RE TALKING
ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES IN AN
UNPRECEDENTED RAID.
VERY WELL COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO
RUNS AGAINST THE SITTING
PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW.
IT SEEMS TO ME THE BURDEN IS ON
THE DOJ TO PROVIDE RADICAL
TRANSPARENCY ON THIS.
IS IT NOT?
>> THE BURDEN IS ALWAYS ON THE
PROSECUTION.
AND LET’S BE CLEAR, THIS IS AN
UNPRECEDENTED RAID ON THE FORMER
PRESIDENT’S HOME, AND I THINK IT
DEMANDS UNPRECEDENTED
TRANSPARENCY.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON.
WE NEED TO KNOW IF THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
WEAPONIZING THEIR PROSECUTORS
AND PURSUING THIS FOR POLITICAL
ENDS.
BRIAN: SO I WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S
REACTION TO THIS RAID AND WHAT
HE KNEW ABOUT IT.
HE WAS ASKED YESTERDAY BY FOX’S
PETER DOOCY IF HE HAD HEARD
ABOUT THE RAID AHEAD OF TIME.
LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID.
>> Reporter: MR. PRESIDENT,
HOW MUCH ADVANCE NOTICE DID YOU
HAVE OF THE FBI’S PLAN TO SEARCH
MAR-A-LAGO?
>> I DIDN’T HAVE ANY ADVANCE
NOTICE, NONE, ZERO.
NOT ONE SINGLE BIT.
THANK YOU.
BRIAN: SO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
HEARD THAT, RESPONDED TO IT IN
WRITING SAYING JOE BIDEN SAID HE
KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE BREAK-IN
OF MAR-A-LAGO OR THE GREATEST
POLITICAL ATTACK IN THE HISTORY
OF THE U.S.
DOES ANYBODY REALLY BELIEVE
THIS?
OKAY, I’LL GIVE YOU MY
PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
I FIND IT INCREDIBLY HARD TO
BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT
WOULDN’T KNOW THAT HIS FORMER
OPPONENT HAD JUST BEEN RAIDED BY
THE FBI.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT AS
SOMEBODY WHO WATCHES THESE KINDS
OF CASES IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW?
>> I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LAUGHABLE.
BUT LET’S BE CLEAR, THERE ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE RULES BETWEEN THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE
PRESIDENCY TO PRESERVE THE
IMPARTIALITY OF THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
BUT THIS WHOLE THING REEKS OF
IMPARTIALITY.
THIS IS THE POTENTIAL POLITICAL
OPPONENT OF THE CURRENT SITTING
PRESIDENT, AND HE HAD A SEARCH
WARRANT EXECUTED ON A HOME.
THIS IS A MAN WITHOUT A CRIMINAL
RECORD.
THIS IS A MAN WHO SERVED AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND REALLY HE IS ENTITLED TO THE
SAME PROTECTIONS THAT WE ARE ALL
ENTITLED TO.
BRIAN BRIAN HOW DO YOU SEE THIS
PLAYING OUT, OKAY?
WE’VE GOT THE AFFIDAVIT, WE’RE
GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING,
PROBABLY NOT MUCH.
THE INVESTIGATION PERSONALLY
COULD BE -- POTENTIALLY COULD BE
OVER BEFORE WE EVEN SEE
AFFIDAVIT SORT OF LITIGATED IN
COURT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN
SEE.
THIS TIMELINE SEEMS UNHELPFUL TO
ME.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
>> I MEAN, THIS IS PROBABLY THE
MOST INVESTIGATED FORMER
PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE
PRESIDENCY.
YOU’VE GOT THE RUSSIA COLLUSION
INVESTIGATION, YOU’VE GOT
IMPEACHMENT NUMBER ONE,
IMPEACHMENT NUMBER TWO, JANUARY
6TH.
YOU’VE GOT THE MISSOURI COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE --
NEW YORK COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY’S OFFICE, THE NEW YORK
A.G.’S OFFICE.
AT POINT ALL THESE
INVESTIGATIONS HAVE TURNED UP
NOTHING, SO I DON’T THINK THE
GOVERNMENT IS ENTITLED TO THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT HERE.
THEY WEREN’T ENTITLED TO THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ANYWAY.
BRIAN: WHAT RECOURSE DOES THE
PRESIDENT HAVE AGAINST THIS?
OBVIOUSLY, HE’S CALLING FOR THE
SPECIAL MASTER.
HE WANTS SOMEBODY IMPARTIAL
LOOKING THROUGH THIS.
WE DON’T KNOW IF HE’S GOING TO
GET THAT, IT MAY BE TOO LATE TO
ASK FOR THAT.
BUT HE HAS SAID, LOOK, I WANTED
THAT -- I WAS ACTUALLY WILLING
TO HELP WHATEVER DOCUMENTS I HAD
TO TRANSFER, I WAS WILLING TO BE
A PART OF THAT.
BUT THIS THING SEEMED TO GO FROM
0-60 REALLY QUICKLY, 60 BEING A
RAID BY THE FBI.
AND THAT FEELS TO A LOT OF
PEOPLE VERY POLITICAL.
THAT’S NOT THE PROCESS, THAT’S
NOT WHAT THE SYSTEM WOULD
PRESCRIBE, WHAT POLITICS
DEMANDS.
DO YOU SEE POLITICS SEEPING IN
IN THAT WAY.
>> I SEE POLITICS SEEPING INTO
OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM RAPIDLY.
AND IT HAPPENED AT AN INCREASING
PACE WHEN DONALD CAN TRUMP
BECAME PRESIDENT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT BECAME THROW
OUT THE RULES, THROW OUT DUE
PROCESS, WE’VE GOT TO TO GET
TRUMP.
WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET
HIM FOR?
I DON’T KNOW, BUT WE’VE GOT TO
FIND SOMETHING.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE
AMERICAN SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IS
SUPPOSED TO BE BASED ON.
THIS IS WHAT STALIN DID IN THE
SOVIET UNION.
HE USED TO SAY SHOW ME THE MAN,
AND I WILL FIND YOU THE CRIME.
WE DON’T INVESTIGATION PEOPLE.
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE
ALLEGATIONS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
YOU KNOW, THERE’S VERY LITTLE
HERE TO SUGGEST --
BRIAN: WELL, AND THAT’S WHY I GO
BACK TO IT’S SO IMPORTANT TO
HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
WHAT IS THE PROBABLE CAUSE HERE?
WHAT IS THE BASIS OF PROBABLE
CAUSE?
ARE WE GOING TO SEE THAT OR GET
THAT THAT FROM THE AFFIDAVIT WE
SEE?
>> WE’RE GOING TO GET VERY
LITTLE FROM THIS AFFIDAVIT.
AS I SAID BEFORE EVERYTHING THAT
THEY’RE REDACTING, WE’RE GOING
TO BE LEFT WITH A PIECE OF PAPER
THAT SAYS AFFIDAVIT, MAR-A-LAGO,
DONALD TRUMP, AND THE REST OF IT
IS LEFT TO YOUR IMAGINATION.
WE NEED TO KNOW WE HAVE A
PRESIDENT THAT IS ABUSING HIS
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
BRIAN: WELL, WE WILL, HOPEFULLY,
GET SOME ANSWERS TO THAT SOON,
BUT I AM NOT OPTIMISTIC GIVEN
DAVID’S REPORT AND THE TRACK
RECORD WE’VE SEEN SO FAR FROM
THE DOJ IN PUSHING BACK ON
TRANSPARENCY.
KEN, WE’VE GOT TO LEAVE IT